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Update from the cdcgov vaccine reporting system: 148 post-Covid Vaccine deaths were reported as of last Friday. Deaths are now running at ~120x reported flu vaccine deaths per-dose. (remember about 14x as many flu shots have been given)
However the real ratio is likely FAR worse - likely between 500 and 1500-to-1.
Three reasons: deaths take days to be reported, and the denominator for #Covid vaccinations (the number of vaccinations given) is rising very fast, artificially depressing the Covid ratio
Two, this is still almost all first dose and the side effects are far worse after the second dose. (And as the Israeli experience shows, there’s not much point to one dose - it doesn’t provide adequate protection.)
And finally this is still mostly Pfizer: Moderna is worse.

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Update from the cdcgov vaccine reporting system: 148 post-Covid Vaccine deaths were reported as of last Friday. Deaths are now running at ~120x reported flu vaccine deaths per-dose. (remember about 14x as many flu shots have been given)
However the real ratio is likely FAR worse - likely between 500 and 1500-to-1.
Three reasons: deaths take days to be reported, and the denominator for #Covid vaccinations (the number of vaccinations given) is rising very fast, artificially depressing the Covid ratio
Two, this is still almost all first dose and the side effects are far worse after the second dose. (And as the Israeli experience shows, there’s not much point to one dose - it doesn’t provide adequate protection.)
And finally this is still mostly Pfizer: Moderna is worse.

then dont take it

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same of GOP mantra everything good give credit to Trump. anything bad blame Biden.

Not sure what Biden has to do with the National Guard troops and where they sleep. But of course they are only there because Trump tried to start an insurrection. There are still people willing to do whatever it takes to fulfill that mission.

Biden is the commander in chief

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Alabama’s had a mask mandate since 7/16 & the Governor said “masks work”.
Florida & Georgia have no statewide mandate
Despite all their different strategies, the curves are remarkably similar & AL’s consistently done worse. They were all at the same point on 3/14/19 for cases and all three states were at the same point on 1/16/2021 for cases as adjusted for population (infections per)
It just another nail in the coffin of
NPI don’t work &
Virus gonna virus

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Biden is the commander in chief

Biden had nothing to do with the troops being removed from the Capitol building - like with Jan 6th there's a lot of finger pointing between the Capitol police and the Pentagon and Congress claims it wasn't them either

Oh, and they've been moved back. Much ado about nothing. What do people think conditions are like with regular military members serving around the world?

"The National Guard said Thursday the Capitol Police moved the Guard members off the grounds as foot traffic from lawmakers and other officials increased in the area, but that was contradicted by acting Capitol Police chief Yogananda Pittman, who said in a statement Friday that “police did not instruct the National Guard to vacate the Capitol Building facilities.”

National Guard officials did not resolve the contradiction in a Friday statement, but denied allegations made on social media that the request originated from lawmakers.

“Our understanding is that the unfortunate request for the National Guard to be relocated was made without the knowledge of the Congressional members,” said Wayne Hall, a spokesman for the National Guard Bureau. “This morning, all of the break areas used by the National Guard on duty at the Capitol are inside buildings.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...senate-garage/

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Alabama’s had a mask mandate since 7/16 & the Governor said “masks work”.
Florida & Georgia have no statewide mandate
Despite all their different strategies, the curves are remarkably similar & AL’s consistently done worse. They were all at the same point on 3/14/19 for cases and all three states were at the same point on 1/16/2021 for cases as adjusted for population (infections per)
It just another nail in the coffin of
NPI don’t work &
Virus gonna virus

The governor of KS would disagree - the mask mandate they issued this summer was optional by county, but counties that followed it saw a big reduction in cases while cases rose in those that ignored it. In November when cases started skyrocketing again, 22 more KS counties joined the mandate.

"Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly tried over the summer to issue a statewide mask mandate, but most of the state’s 105 counties opted out. This week, Kelly and top Republicans agreed to try to persuade counties that are coronavirus hot spots to impose mask requirements rather than having the state step in. But she said she could still call the Republican-controlled Legislature into special session to impose a statewide rule.

Counties without mask mandates have seen the seven-day rolling average of daily cases per 100,000 steadily increase. And in September, those counties started to have higher case rates compared to counties with a mask mandate, Ginther said.

“We found a 50% reduction in the spread of COVID-19 in counties that had a mask mandate compared to those without,” Ginther said."

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...a-to-step-down
https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/...tes/115049266/

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Biden had nothing to do with the troops being removed from the Capitol building - like with Jan 6th there's a lot of finger pointing between the Capitol police and the Pentagon and Congress claims it wasn't them either

Oh, and they've been moved back. Much ado about nothing. What do people think conditions are like with regular military members serving around the world?

"The National Guard said Thursday the Capitol Police moved the Guard members off the grounds as foot traffic from lawmakers and other officials increased in the area, but that was contradicted by acting Capitol Police chief Yogananda Pittman, who said in a statement Friday that “police did not instruct the National Guard to vacate the Capitol Building facilities.”

National Guard officials did not resolve the contradiction in a Friday statement, but denied allegations made on social media that the request originated from lawmakers.

“Our understanding is that the unfortunate request for the National Guard to be relocated was made without the knowledge of the Congressional members,” said Wayne Hall, a spokesman for the National Guard Bureau. “This morning, all of the break areas used by the National Guard on duty at the Capitol are inside buildings.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...senate-garage/

Seems like congress likes the police protecting them, after all the needed 25,000 of them. The real question is what AOC, Omar and the squad were doing when they had an angry mob after them. I have a feeling they weren't yelling "defund the police" but rather "please help police".

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The governor of KS would disagree - the mask mandate they issued this summer was optional by county, but counties that followed it saw a big reduction in cases while cases rose in those that ignored it. In November when cases started skyrocketing again, 22 more KS counties joined the mandate.

"Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly tried over the summer to issue a statewide mask mandate, but most of the state’s 105 counties opted out. This week, Kelly and top Republicans agreed to try to persuade counties that are coronavirus hot spots to impose mask requirements rather than having the state step in. But she said she could still call the Republican-controlled Legislature into special session to impose a statewide rule.

Counties without mask mandates have seen the seven-day rolling average of daily cases per 100,000 steadily increase. And in September, those counties started to have higher case rates compared to counties with a mask mandate, Ginther said.

“We found a 50% reduction in the spread of COVID-19 in counties that had a mask mandate compared to those without,” Ginther said."

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...a-to-step-down
https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/...tes/115049266/

You are using the Kansas mask study. What a joke.
It was debunked for cherry pick stats months ago.
If it is so good, CDC did a follow up amiright? Of course they didn’t.
Find new material bro
Check out what happened to Kansas.
Since your September date, cases exploded in Kansas something like 5x

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/kansas/

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On 12/7, Fauci joined his friend Andrew Cuomo for a briefing & said the holiday “surge upon surge” could make mid-January “a really dark time”

By mid-January, cases started to drop and are now lower than they were on 12/7

I honestly don’t know how Fauci does it. He’s always wrong.

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Update from the cdcgov vaccine reporting system: 148 post-Covid Vaccine deaths were reported as of last Friday. Deaths are now running at ~120x reported flu vaccine deaths per-dose. (remember about 14x as many flu shots have been given)
However the real ratio is likely FAR worse - likely between 500 and 1500-to-1.
Three reasons: deaths take days to be reported, and the denominator for #Covid vaccinations (the number of vaccinations given) is rising very fast, artificially depressing the Covid ratio
Two, this is still almost all first dose and the side effects are far worse after the second dose. (And as the Israeli experience shows, there’s not much point to one dose - it doesn’t provide adequate protection.)
And finally this is still mostly Pfizer: Moderna is worse.

IF you don't want the vaccine, there are 100 waiting to take your place. Just step aside if you are eligible.

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The governor of KS would disagree - the mask mandate they issued this summer was optional by county, but counties that followed it saw a big reduction in cases while cases rose in those that ignored it. In November when cases started skyrocketing again, 22 more KS counties joined the mandate.

"Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly tried over the summer to issue a statewide mask mandate, but most of the state’s 105 counties opted out. This week, Kelly and top Republicans agreed to try to persuade counties that are coronavirus hot spots to impose mask requirements rather than having the state step in. But she said she could still call the Republican-controlled Legislature into special session to impose a statewide rule.

Counties without mask mandates have seen the seven-day rolling average of daily cases per 100,000 steadily increase. And in September, those counties started to have higher case rates compared to counties with a mask mandate, Ginther said.

“We found a 50% reduction in the spread of COVID-19 in counties that had a mask mandate compared to those without,” Ginther said."

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...a-to-step-down
https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/...tes/115049266/

Tired of seeing the same flawed #COVID19 Kansas mask study being shared as proof of "masks working", so I used similar methods + the same dataset and tracked what happened in mandate/non-mandate counties after their study's end date. Pretty different from what the CDC found
The original observation in the study shared widely by the CDC was that daily cases in mask mandated counties fell while non-mask mandated counties rose. Of course, the conclusion falls apart when you re-run their experiment when SARS-CoV-2 was much more prevalent in Kansas.
Cases rose, peaked, and fell at the exact same time. Sure, the non-mask mandate counties were higher prior to the peak, but this graph does not account for counties' testing levels, and when case prevalence is so low (basically a baseline) there is a lot of room for noise.
Additionaly, there are other concerns with the methodology/reasoning behind the start/end dates in the original CDC study,
Of course, the population is higher in the mask mandate group than the non-mask mandate group - yet when I narrow down the non-mask mandate counties to counties with populations over 20k, you get the same result. Sure, the peak is slightly lower for non-mandate counties, but…
I won't say those counties did "better" at peak for the same reason I won't say they did "worse" prior to the November spike. There are other things that would need to be accounted for. What the takeaway should be is the *trend* - both rose/peaked/declined at the same time.
When the scientific evidence (read: RCT studies) pre-COVID hysteria overwhelmingly said universal masking was not effective in stopping respiratory viruses…should we really be surprised if it's the same story for *this* respiratory virus?
Virus gonna virus with or without a mask

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IF you don't want the vaccine, there are 100 waiting to take your place. Just step aside if you are eligible.

Don’t want it. Will not take it.
No to mandating it as well.
My body my choice.
Is that how it works?

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Update from the cdcgov vaccine reporting system: 148 post-Covid Vaccine deaths were reported as of last Friday. Deaths are now running at ~120x reported flu vaccine deaths per-dose. (remember about 14x as many flu shots have been given)
However the real ratio is likely FAR worse - likely between 500 and 1500-to-1.
Three reasons: deaths take days to be reported, and the denominator for #Covid vaccinations (the number of vaccinations given) is rising very fast, artificially depressing the Covid ratio
Two, this is still almost all first dose and the side effects are far worse after the second dose. (And as the Israeli experience shows, there’s not much point to one dose - it doesn’t provide adequate protection.)
And finally this is still mostly Pfizer: Moderna is worse.

I'm too lazy to look up the CDC site but your claims (with a simple math check) don't add up. Last Friday 12M doses administered. 148 deaths out of ~12M projects to ~4,100 out of 330M, far below the base death rate of ~2.8M from 330M. Seems super safe given half of them are being given to elderly at vulnerable death ages.

Also one dose is highly affective, more effective that the typical flu vaccine. Not sure where you're getting your info.

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I'm too lazy to look up the CDC site but your claims (with a simple math check) don't add up. Last Friday 12M doses administered. 148 deaths out of ~12M projects to ~4,100 out of 330M, far below the base death rate of ~2.8M from 330M. Seems super safe given half of them are being given to elderly at vulnerable death ages.

Also one dose is highly affective, more effective that the typical flu vaccine. Not sure where you're getting your info.

Lag
148 is likely about 1/4 to 1/3 of what has transpired
By medical standards, these are serious numbers
1 death per million is acceptable by medical vaccine standards
These are large factors more then that.

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Newsom is not releasing the real ICU availability percentages because it would show that he and his team of experts are purposefully misleading the public in order to justify more closures and restrictions.

Which, of course, don’t work anyway.
Virus on Wayne
Virus on Garth