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You guys are griping about vaccine distribution.
So why is CT so slow on the roll out?
Based on the numbers I have seen, they have used less then half what they have been shipped.
Is it just the incompetent state government?
That is what I would assume.

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This should be the priority.

1). 65 and older first
2). Healthcare workers in parallel when possible
3). <65 with comorbidities
4). Everyone else


If a hospital can’t vaccinate their staff with 48 hours they lose their supply.

You don't really know how hospitals work, do you?

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You guys are griping about vaccine distribution.
So why is CT so slow on the roll out?
Based on the numbers I have seen, they have used less then half what they have been shipped.
Is it just the incompetent state government?
That is what I would assume.

In 1947, New York City vaccinated 5 million people against smallpox in two weeks. How can we be so much worse at this 75 years later?
Then again smallpox was 200-300 times more lethal.
The weeping and gnashing of teeth from people who expected that everyone would be desperate to get a vaccine that has all of two months of safety data for a virus that ~999 out of 1000 people worldwide survive is quite something.

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You don't really know how hospitals work, do you?

Don't care how they work, don't care about shifts or days off. You get everyone there within 48 hours or you lose your turn.

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Different poster, but happy to show you the clip from one of the press conferences Trump gave on the vaccine effort. Tune in around 2 min and note two important things:
1) He claims the doses are already produced and awaiting shipment upon approval (not shocking this was widely reported)
2) That “we will be able to distribute ‘at least 100 million’ vaccine doses by the end of the year”. (The year is 2020)

Pretty sure this is not going to happen. I guess this is what happens when you golf daily instead of do your job and make up your own reality. I’ll give him credit for removing risks to vaccine makers (but really who wouldn’t have done that given the choice and money). On second thought it was probably some intern that made that decision.

So let's pick these apart one at a time. So as i said bullsheet. The poster claimed Trump said 100M vaccinated by year end. Fakenews. No one can produce that clip because it doesn't exist.

Trumps claims weren't that far off. Two things got in the way. 1) FDA approval, taking their sweet time to demonstrate some confidence in the process because of a stigma liberals and MSM created. The UK and other countries did a through review at a 10 day faster pace. 2) Pfizer's 2020 production plan was cut in half. Pfizer decided to not have a full relationship with Operation Warp Speed so they couldn't allocate the raw materials needed for the vaccine. A mistake for Pfizer. In the end Moderna will be more widely used than Pfizer.

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Promised in September when one hadn't even been approved yet. Desperation. Politicians make a lot of promises when they're losing and desperate.



https://abc7.com/trump-today-live-vaccine/6438892/
https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/we...-by-years-end/


He claimed it on October 26th also, closer to the election

“And the vaccines are going to free,” he said. “We are going to deliver 100 million vaccines before the end of the year, maybe a little sooner than that, and seniors will be first in line,” Trump said. The president has repeated this claim multiple times during the campaign, however, public health experts say a vaccine will not be available to the general public until the middle of next year.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...860#blogHeader


Distribution is going slower than expected with states reporting not getting their promised shipments, only some of it. Currently the estimate is 15-18M delivered doses by the year end - but that doesn't mean that many vaccinated. Right now the latest estimate is 3M actually vax'd by Jan 1.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/4032188001/

As said already no one can produce the clip. More like 3.5M to 4M by Jan 1 will be vaccinated. Current pace is 400k/day. Should peak in April to about 1.4M per day.

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As said already no one can produce the clip. More like 3.5M to 4M by Jan 1 will be vaccinated. Current pace is 400k/day. Should peak in April to about 1.4M per day.

seems like a state problem.

Trump did his job, he got them to the hospitals in the states.

At some point, some local politician of hospital CEO making 1MM a year has got to actually make sure they are sticking the patients. My guess is they stuck the hospital workers, but had no plan to get seniors, etc done. My 10th grade kid could walk into the hospital an do a better job organizing the distribution...now we have biden on record in the typical politician 100 in first 100 day claims
Take a look back and see what obama was going to do in the first 100 days
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/29/joe-...own-goals.html

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You guys are griping about vaccine distribution.
So why is CT so slow on the roll out?
Based on the numbers I have seen, they have used less then half what they have been shipped.
Is it just the incompetent state government?
That is what I would assume.

That is happening in multiple states, not just here. Part of the issue is sites aren't getting the promised # of doses but CT will be receiving much more very soon. This shows updated info by state - how many vaccinated, what's received and how much more is coming


https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ibution-doses/

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seems like a state problem.

Trump did his job, he got them to the hospitals in the states.

At some point, some local politician of hospital CEO making 1MM a year has got to actually make sure they are sticking the patients. My guess is they stuck the hospital workers, but had no plan to get seniors, etc done. My 10th grade kid could walk into the hospital an do a better job organizing the distribution...now we have biden on record in the typical politician 100 in first 100 day claims
Take a look back and see what obama was going to do in the first 100 days
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/29/joe-...own-goals.html

Many states are relying on pharmacy staff to go into homes for vaccinations. They don't have enough healthcare staff on hand to do it quickly and moving the elderly to a central facility isn't a good option. My very elderly parents (one assisted living the other in long term care) in a red state are pissed because their facility has CVS and others have Walgreens - the Walgreens assigned sites are getting vaccinated and CVS aren't. There's some confusion as to whether or not sites had a choice in the matter.

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If all it takes to skip the vaccine is to claim the virus is a hoax, then sign me up for “it’s a hoax”
I will think about a vaccine but not a mRNA based one. And I will only consider it after 3-5 years of safety data. That is of course if I don’t get CV before then. I think immunity post infection will be 1 year+ at a minimum. Who knows at the maximum. Right now, I would gladly take the virus over the current 2 vaccine.

Fine. More for us.

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You guys are griping about vaccine distribution.
So why is CT so slow on the roll out?
Based on the numbers I have seen, they have used less then half what they have been shipped.
Is it just the incompetent state government?
That is what I would assume.

According to that WaPo link someone posted CT has vaccianted 1.1% of its total population already and will have 69% of its healthcare workers and LTC residents one-dosed by year's end and will have enough vaccine to have done 4.9% of the total population. Since some posters are obssessed with FL: they've vaccinated .7% of their total but say they'll have a similar % of HCW and LTC residents by year's end. Many other states are showing similar numbers.

Getting close to 70% of HCW and LTC one dose already is pretty freaking amazing I think. But the big test will be rolling it out to broader populations. I haven't even heard how CT is doing it - via pharmacies like the flu vaccine (they can't handle to case load), public health departments, doctor's offices? Anyone know what the plan is?

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CT has no plans published beyond their initial phase

https://portal.ct.gov/Coronavirus/CO...ation---Phases

1a: Long term care patients, health providers, first responders

Next (with no specifics)

Critical Workforce

Other Congregate Settings

Adults Over 65

High Risk Individuals Under 65


No decisions have yet been made about the prioritization of individuals beyond Phase 1a. Our decisions about priority order for Phase 1b and beyond will be made based on ACIP guidelines, our State’s allocation subcommittee advice, and ultimately the decision of the Governor. ACIP and our allocation subcommittee are making their recommendations based on multiple factors – including maximizing the benefits of vaccine access, mitigating the spread of the pandemic, and mitigating health inequities.

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"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on Monday that 2.1 million doses of coronavirus vaccines have been administered in two weeks. While this might sound like an impressive number, it should set off alarms.

Let’s start with the math. Anthony S. Fauci, the government’s top infectious-disease doctor, estimates that 80 to 85 percent of Americans need to be vaccinated to reach herd immunity. Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines require two doses. Eighty percent of the American population is around 264 million people, so we need to administer 528 million doses to achieve herd immunity.

At the current rate, it would take the United States approximately 10 years to reach that level of inoculation. That’s right — 10 years. Contrast that with the Trump administration’s rosy projections: Earlier this month, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar predicted that every American will be able to get the vaccine by the second quarter of 2021 (which would be the end of June). The speed needed to do that is 3.5 million vaccinations a day."

CT has done close to 40,000 so far but it's all at facilities where it's easy to do large numbers like hospitals. Even if the state only vaccinates 60% that's 1.8M people to vaccinate - twice!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-slow-testing/

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Yeah -- Trump completely dropped the ball on rolling out the vaccine. Nice job. It would be hard to do a worse job. But, count on Trump to do that.

The 20,000,000 promised to be vaccinated by the end of December -- that's obviously a complete lie. It looks like it will be more like 2,000,000. And, January is going to worse than December in the number of dead -- and December is going to be the worst month to date. Trump is still shooting to kill off 500,000 Americans before leaving office.

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"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on Monday that 2.1 million doses of coronavirus vaccines have been administered in two weeks. While this might sound like an impressive number, it should set off alarms.

Let’s start with the math. Anthony S. Fauci, the government’s top infectious-disease doctor, estimates that 80 to 85 percent of Americans need to be vaccinated to reach herd immunity. Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines require two doses. Eighty percent of the American population is around 264 million people, so we need to administer 528 million doses to achieve herd immunity.

At the current rate, it would take the United States approximately 10 years to reach that level of inoculation. That’s right — 10 years. Contrast that with the Trump administration’s rosy projections: Earlier this month, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar predicted that every American will be able to get the vaccine by the second quarter of 2021 (which would be the end of June). The speed needed to do that is 3.5 million vaccinations a day."

CT has done close to 40,000 so far but it's all at facilities where it's easy to do large numbers like hospitals. Even if the state only vaccinates 60% that's 1.8M people to vaccinate - twice!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-slow-testing/

Another liberal arts major and MSM brainwashed dem with zero critical thinking skills.
1) ~20% of the US population has had COVID. While the will get the vaccine the majority will be at later stages of vaccination administration. So 264M-66M=198M that truly require vaccination for herd immunity.
2) 80-85% is on the high side for herd immunity but let stay with that overly conservative assumption.
2) No one with a brain thinks the current vaccine administration rate will be a consistent rate. The initial distribution were to a limited number of sites. With each day there is an expanded number of sites that will receive the vaccine and start administering. The more sites that receive it, the more shots/day. That's how you get exponential growth. Common sense.
3) This excludes other vaccines that will come on line and are one shot (i.e. J&J, Astrazeneca by end of January)
4) The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines can (currently) only be administered to 16, 18 and up so 198M can be reduced to roughly 160M.
5) By end of March Operation Warp Speed has already committed to distributing over 200M doses enough for the first 100M vaccinations.

I say we hit herd by June.