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    If an elderly person dies within 30 days of taking the vaccine will they have died with vaccine or from vaccine? Or not counted at all?

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      hmmm....so why did they issue report comparing Kansas counties that had mask mandates this summer vs those that did not. The former saw cases drop 6%, the ones that didn't adopt them saw cases go up 100%. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947e2.htm

      In November when the governor told people to mask up again twenty more counties decided to have mandates that didn't this summer. https://fox4kc.com/tracking-coronavi...s-time-around/
      You should look at the “study”.
      It is based on cherry picking the dates. If you just change the dates by 1 day the data says the opposite. Do some critical thinking 🤔

      How about the danish mask study. 6,000 people and a RCT.
      Medical surgical grade mask supplied unlimited to people resulted in a .38% reduction or .0038 or about 1 in 300.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        hmmm....so why did they issue report comparing Kansas counties that had mask mandates this summer vs those that did not. The former saw cases drop 6%, the ones that didn't adopt them saw cases go up 100%. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947e2.htm

        In November when the governor told people to mask up again twenty more counties decided to have mandates that didn't this summer. https://fox4kc.com/tracking-coronavi...s-time-around/
        the problem with having 10,000 shamans doing 10,000 rain dances is that, inevitably, a few are going to get lucky and do one right before the rains come

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          the problem with having 10,000 shamans doing 10,000 rain dances is that, inevitably, a few are going to get lucky and do one right before the rains come
          Dumb cons don't get it until it's too late....

          Former Sen. Larry Dixon, a Republican who also served as the executive director of the Alabama Board of Medical Examiners, died from Covid-19 on Dec. 4, the board said in a statement on Friday.

          Dr. David Thrasher, a close friend of Dixon and a pulmonologist in Montgomery, told NBC News that Dixon's wife, Gaynell Dixon, told Thrasher that his last words to her were a prescient warning to the people of Alabama.

          “We messed up, we let our guard down,” Dixon said, according to Thrasher. “Please tell everybody to be careful. This is real, and if you get diagnosed, get help immediately.”

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            [QUOTE=Unregistered;2885170]Dumb cons don't get it until it's too late....

            Former Sen. Larry Dixon, a Republican who also served as the executive director of the Alabama Board of Medical Examiners, died from Covid-19 on Dec. 4, the board said in a statement on Friday.

            Dr. David Thrasher, a close friend of Dixon and a pulmonologist in Montgomery, told NBC News that Dixon's wife, Gaynell Dixon, told Thrasher that his last words to her were a prescient warning to the people of Alabama.

            “We messed up, we let our guard down,” Dixon said, according to Thrasher. “Please tell everybody to be careful. This is real, and if you get diagnosed, get help immediately.”[/QUOTE

            Nice CNN quote.
            One person’s opinion to reinforce the MSM narrative
            One person with a bad outcome
            7.6 billion didn’t have a bad outcome
            Keep dancing for the sun to rise
            Make sure to wear your talisman while you do it
            The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Dumb cons don't get it until it's too late....

              Former Sen. Larry Dixon, a Republican who also served as the executive director of the Alabama Board of Medical Examiners, died from Covid-19 on Dec. 4, the board said in a statement on Friday.

              Dr. David Thrasher, a close friend of Dixon and a pulmonologist in Montgomery, told NBC News that Dixon's wife, Gaynell Dixon, told Thrasher that his last words to her were a prescient warning to the people of Alabama.

              “We messed up, we let our guard down,” Dixon said, according to Thrasher. “Please tell everybody to be careful. This is real, and if you get diagnosed, get help immediately.”
              Let your guard down implies man can control a virus
              Not once ever in human existence has man controlled a virus
              100 years ago we could not even see them or know for sure they existed

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Let your guard down implies man can control a virus
                Not once ever in human existence has man controlled a virus
                100 years ago we could not even see them or know for sure they existed
                Can't control but sure as hell can manage it a whole lot better than what has happened in this country.

                You cons have excuses for EVERYTHING 🙄

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                  [QUOTE=Unregistered;2885191]
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Dumb cons don't get it until it's too late....

                  Former Sen. Larry Dixon, a Republican who also served as the executive director of the Alabama Board of Medical Examiners, died from Covid-19 on Dec. 4, the board said in a statement on Friday.

                  Dr. David Thrasher, a close friend of Dixon and a pulmonologist in Montgomery, told NBC News that Dixon's wife, Gaynell Dixon, told Thrasher that his last words to her were a prescient warning to the people of Alabama.

                  “We messed up, we let our guard down,” Dixon said, according to Thrasher. “Please tell everybody to be careful. This is real, and if you get diagnosed, get help immediately.”[/QUOTE

                  Nice CNN quote.
                  One person’s opinion to reinforce the MSM narrative
                  One person with a bad outcome
                  7.6 billion didn’t have a bad outcome
                  Keep dancing for the sun to rise
                  Make sure to wear your talisman while you do it
                  The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.
                  multiple sources, one of many

                  https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...ords-we-messed

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    1. The Florida numbers are not good - worse than California. And, given the absence of federal leadership, we can see what the lack of state leadership is doing. California is attacking the problem. Florida is not.

                    2. 173457 new cases yesterday. 1,111 deaths. On track for more than 350,000 dead by Christmas and more than 400,000 dead by January 20. We are looking at between 2000 and 2500 dead per day.
                    Is FL even being honest with their numbers? You may recall he had a state statistician removed from her job during the summer when cases were blowing up. She started her own tracking site using public info and doing aotbof leg work herself. DeSantis just had the police confiscate all her electronics with guns drawn in front of her kids.

                    https://news.yahoo.com/did-covid-dat...225050033.html

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Can't control but sure as hell can manage it a whole lot better than what has happened in this country.

                      You cons have excuses for EVERYTHING 🙄
                      cons???
                      are cons the only ones getting this virus? people are social and they make choices (not always the smart ones) but they are who are spreading this
                      its not the govt, because the govt doesnt have a way to help you right now- you know the risks and you will act accordingly, but the govt (any govt) right now is doing more harm than good with these lockdowns

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Can't control but sure as hell can manage it a whole lot better than what has happened in this country.

                        You cons have excuses for EVERYTHING 🙄
                        You are the con man.
                        Even Germany is getting pummeled right now.
                        Virus gonna virus
                        Next you will tell me how you can control the weather
                        I believe we could have done better. We did not need to overreact and literally kill 100k with the lockdown measures. That was the travesty. If we had done what Sweden had done, we would have the same deaths as we do now except without the lockdown deaths and severe economic distress.
                        That is the way history will view this.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          cons???
                          are cons the only ones getting this virus? people are social and they make choices (not always the smart ones) but they are who are spreading this
                          its not the govt, because the govt doesnt have a way to help you right now- you know the risks and you will act accordingly, but the govt (any govt) right now is doing more harm than good with these lockdowns
                          The real cons are the politicians.
                          They are profiting off this.
                          Ned is driving testing. His wife’s hedge fund has large ownership interest in testing company. State will not tell us who & how many testing companies utilizing. Guarantee Ned is spending federal money on testing with his wife’s testing company.
                          This is just one example. There will be 1,000’s of more examples that are brought to light in the future. Every politician has capitalized on this and help their friends.
                          Jail for all.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            cons???
                            are cons the only ones getting this virus? people are social and they make choices (not always the smart ones) but they are who are spreading this
                            its not the govt, because the govt doesnt have a way to help you right now- you know the risks and you will act accordingly, but the govt (any govt) right now is doing more harm than good with these lockdowns
                            Always extremes with cons. We don't need complete spring like lockdowns but smart strategic ones to slow it down. No masks aren't 100% but they definitely help lessen the spread. You don't have to stop your life but be smarter about it.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Always extremes with cons. We don't need complete spring like lockdowns but smart strategic ones to slow it down. No masks aren't 100% but they definitely help lessen the spread. You don't have to stop your life but be smarter about it.
                              I agree mask lesson the spread. The only RCT on the matter indicates .38% or .0038 reduction.
                              To me that is not adequate protection to have government mandate everyone wear one. That is basically 1 in 300.
                              This also ignores the down side of mask mandates. There is a down side. Someone will get bacterial pneumonia. Some are have bad oral health like gum disease, cavities etc. Some will suffer skin irritation etc.
                              While these may be a small minority they are not zero and only a small minority get protection from a mask, 1 300.
                              Yes the mask makes people feel good. Like they take it seriously. It gives them hope because they placed a visible physical barrier over their airway to try to stop or filter out the virus. But the science is clear, they offer mathematically no meaningful protection.
                              It is a myth. Sounds good. Looks good. But does not work.
                              It is like running in the rain to try not to get as wet. Seems logical that the faster you get out of the rain the dryer you will be. Actually walking keeps you dryer. Longer in the rain but the slower speed keeps the rain from getting the front of you as wet.

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                                Bad Public Health Kills: 100,000+ Americans Died not from COVID, but Trying to "Stop the Spread"
                                A large chuck of our excess deaths this year will be from the policies of trying to stop the spread of CV.
                                Collateral damage that Fauci & Brix & Redfield ignore.

                                https://www.thepragmatist.co/post/ba...top-the-spread

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