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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Yet you claimed summer protests over George Floyd's death led to case increases
    Never claimed that.
    I claimed Hope-Simpson seasonality.
    Looks like I was right.

    I would gladly get virus over vaccine

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Nursing homes barely exist outside of the US. Seniors in other countries usually live with family or in their own homes.
      Speaking of nursing homes
      Covid Tracking project says nationally just over 40% of CV deaths are from LTC facilities.
      CT has over 70% of deaths from LTC facilities.
      How come Ned is doing almost twice as bad as the rest of the country?

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Speaking of nursing homes
        Covid Tracking project says nationally just over 40% of CV deaths are from LTC facilities.
        CT has over 70% of deaths from LTC facilities.
        How come Ned is doing almost twice as bad as the rest of the country?
        Because Ned, like the governors in NY, NJ and MA were caught by surprise when the virus first erupted Feb/March. Lack of testing, lack of PPEs, lack of understanding of the virus and mistakes made led to Covid spreading like wildfire through facilities. It's still an issue at facilities now (there are frequent outbreaks) and many are running out of PPEs as hospitals tend to get supplies first.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Because Ned, like the governors in NY, NJ and MA were caught by surprise when the virus first erupted Feb/March. Lack of testing, lack of PPEs, lack of understanding of the virus and mistakes made led to Covid spreading like wildfire through facilities. It's still an issue at facilities now (there are frequent outbreaks) and many are running out of PPEs as hospitals tend to get supplies first.
          Fair enough but what about now. CT still has above average deaths in LTC from CV. Why are other states doing better then CT right now in their LTC facilities?

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Fair enough but what about now. CT still has above average deaths in LTC from CV. Why are other states doing better then CT right now in their LTC facilities?
            data? links?

            and you do realize LTC aren't managed by the states. They're corporations supervised by the state. Without more information on how/why CTs rate are higher you shouldn't draw conclusions yet.

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              Good attempt but you're missing a couple critical factors. Cases are an irrelevant number when there are multiples of people with asymptomatic infections who spread COVID. This site below attempts to estimate the real number of people infected which gives you the most realistic picture:

              As of Nov. 1st, Canada is estimated to have 2.2million infected:
              https://covid19-projections.com/canada

              As of Nov. 1st, Florida is estimated to have 3.5million infected:
              https://covid19-projections.com/infections/us-fl

              Canada still doing slightly better (they overlap in the margin of error) than FL but not close the to the factor you're representing with case numbers. Again case numbers not very meaningful, actual infections much more relevant.

              In the US we're including probable COVID deaths in total death figures. Not all countries are projecting deaths equally so hard to compare them apples to apples. It's been widely reported that many deaths where missed early on in other counties because they didn't have a way of knowing the root cause of death other than a respiratory illness.

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              Seriously? Read your post again. 1.3 million is "within the margin of error"? Hey, I will play along. Canada -- population of about 38 million has had -- per your guessing source - through Nov. 1 -- 2.2 million cases. That same source, for the same period, puts Florida, population 21.7 million at 3.5 million cases. And you think that difference is "within the margin of error"?

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              So - here's the answer as to why Canada and Germany are doing so much better than the U.S. with covid: (1) they have political leadership that chose not to lie to their citizens and pretend it was a fake illness; and (2) they have national healthcare so poor people actually can see a doctor earlier and get medical treatment earlier rather than wait until things are really very bad and go into an emergency room.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Good attempt but you're missing a couple critical factors. Cases are an irrelevant number when there are multiples of people with asymptomatic infections who spread COVID. This site below attempts to estimate the real number of people infected which gives you the most realistic picture:

                As of Nov. 1st, Canada is estimated to have 2.2million infected:
                https://covid19-projections.com/canada

                As of Nov. 1st, Florida is estimated to have 3.5million infected:
                https://covid19-projections.com/infections/us-fl

                Canada still doing slightly better (they overlap in the margin of error) than FL but not close the to the factor you're representing with case numbers. Again case numbers not very meaningful, actual infections much more relevant.

                In the US we're including probable COVID deaths in total death figures. Not all countries are projecting deaths equally so hard to compare them apples to apples. It's been widely reported that many deaths where missed early on in other counties because they didn't have a way of knowing the root cause of death other than a respiratory illness.

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                Seriously? Read your post again. 1.3 million is "within the margin of error"? Hey, I will play along. Canada -- population of about 38 million has had -- per your guessing source - through Nov. 1 -- 2.2 million cases. That same source, for the same period, puts Florida, population 21.7 million at 3.5 million cases. And you think that difference is "within the margin of error"?

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                So - here's the answer as to why Canada and Germany are doing so much better than the U.S. with covid: (1) they have political leadership that chose not to lie to their citizens and pretend it was a fake illness; and (2) they have national healthcare so poor people actually can see a doctor earlier and get medical treatment earlier rather than wait until things are really very bad and go into an emergency room.
                Come on Snowflake. I see you're a bit math challenged or don't understand statistical analysis very well, so let's spell it out:

                As of Nov. 1st, Canada is estimated to have 2.2million infected. Upper range 6.2M, Lower range 0.9M:
                https://covid19-projections.com/canada

                As of Nov. 1st, Florida is estimated to have 3.5million infected. Upper range 5.3M, lower range 2.3M:
                https://covid19-projections.com/infections/us-fl

                Yes the margins of error over lap by a lot. The wider range for Canada is due to their wide ranging results from seroprevalence studies.

                You must have missed the daily White House task force meetings in March and April. They're on youtube, go check it out. And yes we already know you rely very heavily on what MSM tells you about the virus instead of thinking for yourself so point 1 is no surprise.

                Point 2 just doesn't make sense, "they have national healthcare so poor people actually can see a doctor earlier and get medical treatment earlier" Nonsense, all COIVD medical related access is free and available for everyone in the country since March. That was one of the first things the WH task did and was put into law with the initial bill that was passed.
                There is free COVID testing throughout the state, any COVID related medical bills are free, treatments and the vaccine will be free as well.

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                  Good news. Only a little over 13,200 people died from covid last week. And, the CDC is projecting we can easily hit 350,000 dead by Christmas, so 500,000 dead by the time Trump leaves office on January 20 is still possible.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Good news. Only a little over 13,200 people died from covid last week. And, the CDC is projecting we can easily hit 350,000 dead by Christmas, so 500,000 dead by the time Trump leaves office on January 20 is still possible.
                    *** is wrong with you

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                      U.S. vs South Korea: first cases on the same day, night and day now

                      From Tuesday to Thursday, the United States recorded more than 8,000 deaths from covid-19. The toll on Thursday alone was 2,753. In South Korea, where the virus was first detected on the same day as it was in the United States, the covid-19 death toll is 536. Total. Since January. More people have died in the United States over five hours on Dec. 3 than have died of the disease in South Korea overall.

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ns-staggering/

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        U.S. vs South Korea: first cases on the same day, night and day now

                        From Tuesday to Thursday, the United States recorded more than 8,000 deaths from covid-19. The toll on Thursday alone was 2,753. In South Korea, where the virus was first detected on the same day as it was in the United States, the covid-19 death toll is 536. Total. Since January. More people have died in the United States over five hours on Dec. 3 than have died of the disease in South Korea overall.

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ns-staggering/
                        Have you never been to South Korea? They are about as homogeneous a population that you can get culturally. There is almost zero diversity in thought. If the government says jump, South Koreans in unison yell how high. If only the dems would follow Trump that way :). Not going to happen in diverse countries.

                        It's also an extremely racists country. Not so much our view of racisms but rather racisms against their regional neighbors. South Koreans don't trust the Chinese (and others) one iota. The second they heard of issues in China they naturally reacted quickly with boarder closings and severe lockdowns which everyone followed like automotons. Much faster than the rest of the world. They have a lot of experience with these outbreaks from China and don't trust one "official" word coming from that country. Hong Kong and Singapore were hit hard by SARS in 2003, and South Korea came to a standstill during a MERS outbreak in 2015.

                        You want an even better reaction to COIVD, check out Taiwan. Extreme hatred toward the Chinese. They had inside information on what was going on in Wuhan and reacted before the news even broke in China itself.

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                          California reports more than 30,000 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase on record for any U.S. state. 10,528 new cases in Los Angeles County alone.
                          Strictest mandates and shutdowns in the country seem to be working well.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            California reports more than 30,000 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase on record for any U.S. state. 10,528 new cases in Los Angeles County alone.
                            Strictest mandates and shutdowns in the country seem to be working well.
                            But Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx how can this be? They have had masks at close to 100% compliance and banned all the activities you cite as needed to be shutdown. How did the virus catch them?

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                              Yes CA numbers are not good. Thankfully they are way better than Trump states.

                              Take N and S Dakota - both are doing way worse than Cal. Cal. had about 139,000 new cases last week and 884 deaths. N Dak had 4278 new cases and 111 deaths. S Dakota was a bit worse off with 6205 new cases and 149 deaths. If we used N Dakota’s percentages and applied them to Cal. - instead of 139,000 new cases Cal would have had 237,000. And, instead of 884 deaths it would have been 5925 deaths. Thankfully Cal. is not pretending that the virus does not exist, or alternatively, is not dangerous.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                But Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx how can this be? They have had masks at close to 100% compliance and banned all the activities you cite as needed to be shutdown. How did the virus catch them?
                                The more extreme shutdowns only just went into effect. Takes time to start seeing the impact. CA has had a big problem with outbreaks in prisons and jails as well as farm workers who share tight quarters.
                                Don't confuse public mask wearing compliance with what people do privately. Every state has people who don't listen, some more than others. Because of it's size looks bad but per capita there's other states that are worse

                                Every state will start seeing the post Thanksgiving impact about now

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