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    Originally posted by Guest View Post
    libtards. What is the fundamental difference between your argument for women "their body, their choice" but I cant have that same freedom when it comes to my body or my child?
    Yes great point, but will you follow through on your end when the mask mandate is lifted. I think not.

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      Originally posted by Guest View Post
      Originally posted by Guest View Post
      libtards. What is the fundamental difference between your argument for women "their body, their choice" but I cant have that same freedom when it comes to my body or my child?
      lol your spreading germs maskless impacts others around you. This is an airborne disease. A woman's choice doesn't impact anyone else's (and don't say cells are a human because they are not). Cons are the ones trying to take away a woman's right to chose.


      the point is freedom of choice. I have that freedom just as you do.
      You do not have unlimited freedom. The first Amendment has limitations and one of those is endangerment of the public. I thought you were a constitutional expert. Isn’t that why you have a copy in your home?

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        Originally posted by Guest View Post

        You do not have unlimited freedom. The first Amendment has limitations and one of those is endangerment of the public. I thought you were a constitutional expert. Isn’t that why you have a copy in your home?
        Exactly, public health and national security limit many rights and freedoms.

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          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          You do not have unlimited freedom. The first Amendment has limitations and one of those is endangerment of the public. I thought you were a constitutional expert. Isn’t that why you have a copy in your home?
          How is it endangering the public, you moron, when the vaccine is readily available for anyone that wants it? It doesn’t prevent you from getting COVID or from spreading it, but allegedly prevents severe illness. If that is true, anyone who chooses not to get the vaccine or wear a mask is not endangering anyone. That is just a tired power trip with zero logic behind it.

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            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            How is it endangering the public, you moron, when the vaccine is readily available for anyone that wants it? It doesn’t prevent you from getting COVID or from spreading it, but allegedly prevents severe illness. If that is true, anyone who chooses not to get the vaccine or wear a mask is not endangering anyone. That is just a tired power trip with zero logic behind it.
            UnVaccinated could overrun hospitals and it prevents vaccinated people from accessing health care system for other needs. Exactly what happened with omicron.

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              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              Exactly, public health and national security limit many rights and freedoms.
              Not so fast.
              These are two separate issues,, and can’t be applied collectively across all particulars and circumstances.
              Comparisons of School masking, mandates,, lockdowns and similar matters to TSA practices and 9/11 repercussions are not a valid analogy. That’s because the risk factor differs . A 10 year old child an 80 year old man ,, and a 50 year old 300 lb. Diabetic have basically the same risk of dying when they fly in an Airplane.Thats isn’t the case with COVID.

              The nonsense regarding the unvaccinated. “ overrunning hospitals. “ is mostly MSM hysteria and propaganda. Close examination of those areas where it may have occurred reveal interesting factors and variables. What were the percentage of available beds in comparison to other hospitals? Who owns the. Hospitals? What. Budget. nd cost saving methods have been used to boost the bottom line?? Maybe the billions of $$ handed out to the Mad. Scientists who got. Us into this mess could be better spent serving the taxpayers. Whose pockets that it came out of. The lockdowns and.the threat of infection from COVID , hyped up by the MSM and certain political leaders is responsible for a reduction in th E number of people willing to go to a Hospital for ER out other services..

              The CIAC is actually doing the correct thing by asking for the masks to be removed quicker. At least someone has their eye on the ball and has stopped believing the seemingly endless stream of lies served up to the American people.

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                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                UnVaccinated could overrun hospitals and it prevents vaccinated people from accessing health care system for other needs. Exactly what happened with omicron.
                And is still happening in areas with low vaccination rates. Thanks to our high vax rates omicron quickly ran out if unvaccinated people to make seriously ill. Thats why we can start to relax restrictions for now. Hopefully we get a breather before an inevitable next variant.

                Most vaccinated people weathered an infection just fine, many having no symptoms at all. The few who did get sicker tended to be quite elderly or with a host of health issues. Not everyone can be saved with vaccinations but millions have been

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                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  And is still happening in areas with low vaccination rates. Thanks to our high vax rates omicron quickly ran out if unvaccinated people to make seriously ill. Thats why we can start to relax restrictions for now. Hopefully we get a breather before an inevitable next variant.

                  Most vaccinated people weathered an infection just fine, many having no symptoms at all. The few who did get sicker tended to be quite elderly or with a host of health issues. Not everyone can be saved with vaccinations but millions have been
                  you act as if the virus is self aware and has a central command- it doesnt
                  the virus doesnt know how sick it is getting you- the virus works at a cellular level it either can survive on its host or it cant, how sick you get is based on your cells
                  before we had a vax most people weathered the infection just fine as well
                  who died before we had a vax? pretty much the same people who are dying now

                  I believe the vax helps me- limited my level of discomfort from covid-
                  but the science tells us it doesnt prevent you from getting or transmitting, so stop blaming the unvaxed as if they are the only problem-
                  we have mishandled this so badly,we let politicians trample on our rights and usurp power
                  we have damaged a whole generation of kids
                  we have destroyed livelihoods and careers (some 1200 year old pub in england just closed its doors- they survived a lot worse things in 1200 years)
                  we have become a lazy, handout wanting, crime ridden, drug culture

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                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    Flu doesn't kill like Covid, nor is flu as contagious. Covid will probably always be around with new mutations coming and going. That is the one similarity with the flu. Hopefully we get to a point where a vaccine is needed only once a year like with flu.
                    Actually, some flu years do kill hundreds of thousands ... perhaps less than COVID, but quite deadly still and far less forgiving to the young and healthy at times. But to your statement that flu doesnt kill like covid .... nope, the Spanish flu was FAR worse in fact. I am sure it comes back in different strains from year to year, but, like COVID, it is no longer a NOVEL virus. It does not have free run over the world as most people now have immunities to it. Kind of how it works. No virus has EVER dominated with the voracity that it has while it was in the novel stage. Viruses are the only things that change and evolve. It just takes animals a little longer and has some loss involved, but they quickly adapt and you should then understand what Darwin saw when he coined the phrase "Survival of the Fittest". A natural strengthening of a species over time in reaction to life.

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                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      UnVaccinated could overrun hospitals and it prevents vaccinated people from accessing health care system for other needs. Exactly what happened with omicron.
                      It is still their choice. Like fat people and their eating disorder, junkies with their issues or smokers with their addiction ... how will the government fix their ailments and clear the hospitals of them. Perhaps we can imagine a world as in "Logan's Run" to rid the hospitals of old people too?

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                        Originally posted by Guest View Post

                        It is still their choice. Like fat people and their eating disorder, junkies with their issues or smokers with their addiction ... how will the government fix their ailments and clear the hospitals of them. Perhaps we can imagine a world as in "Logan's Run" to rid the hospitals of old people too?
                        sure it's their choice. but their choice limits healthcare for others. the unvaccinated and fat people also should have to pay higher insurance rates if the refuse to get vaccinated or take control of their health, just like smokers do. the rest of us shouldn't have to subsidize their poor choices

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                          Controlling your citizens with mandates and things alike is unamerican. Everyone of you have freedom of choice. Choices have consequences, if you are so afraid of somebody else's choice then stay in your bubble, wear a mask, get vax 5x do what you want and others will do what they want. I dont understand why that is so hard to comprehend. Its your life, do what you want BUT certainly dont try to force others to act and think like you

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                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            Actually, some flu years do kill hundreds of thousands ... perhaps less than COVID, but quite deadly still and far less forgiving to the young and healthy at times. But to your statement that flu doesnt kill like covid .... nope, the Spanish flu was FAR worse in fact. I am sure it comes back in different strains from year to year, but, like COVID, it is no longer a NOVEL virus. It does not have free run over the world as most people now have immunities to it. Kind of how it works. No virus has EVER dominated with the voracity that it has while it was in the novel stage. Viruses are the only things that change and evolve. It just takes animals a little longer and has some loss involved, but they quickly adapt and you should then understand what Darwin saw when he coined the phrase "Survival of the Fittest". A natural strengthening of a species over time in reaction to life.
                            Wrong. Even "bad" flu years don't even top 100K. Most average years are 25-40K. That translates to a mortality rate of .1 to .2%, not even the 1.4% you've been citing as the rate for Covid. Literally Covid is 10x greater. Over two years we've lost 500K a year https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

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                              Originally posted by Guest View Post
                              Controlling your citizens with mandates and things alike is unamerican. Everyone of you have freedom of choice. Choices have consequences, if you are so afraid of somebody else's choice then stay in your bubble, wear a mask, get vax 5x do what you want and others will do what they want. I dont understand why that is so hard to comprehend. Its your life, do what you want BUT certainly dont try to force others to act and think like you
                              I am not afraid of the unvaccinated because I am vaccinated. However that doesn't mean I can't be angry and disgusted by the burden they're putting on the healthcare system

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                                Thats fine, be angry, again that is your choice. I am for freedom of choice. I am vaxed, i get it but we cant allow our govt to force mandates like this. Now some have taken this idea waaaaaaaay too far right just as others have taken this waaaaaaaay too far left. We would like to think that people would just do whats right but in the end there is so much that comes in to that. I would love to be in a position where my choices would be best for society but I cant. I have a family so my choices are for them, unfortunately, I could care less about your circumstances and what you want or what you think.

                                Its a slippery slope when we start allowing the govt to make these kind of choices for us....whats next?

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