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    I've a cousin in the hospital in FL who has pneumonia caused by Covid. Is he counted as just pneumonia or Covid? It's FL so it's more likely the former.

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      I've a cousin in the hospital in FL who has pneumonia caused by Covid. Is he counted as just pneumonia or Covid? It's FL so it's more likely the former.
      It’s not an either or thing. That’s what you don’t seem to understand. If your cousin can be proven via testing to have had COVID then he/she is counted as a case. Any comorbidity, disease, condition, or acute ailment they may have doesn’t nullify that they are a case regardless of what state they live in. I think FL may have in 2020 tried to play games with their numbers, but unless the provider doesn’t want to get paid for their diagnosis and risk loosing their malpractice coverage or licensure they have to provide full and complete reporting. Remember when people die, questions are asked about their circumstances and health issues. Keeping two sets of books is a recipe for disaster unless your a mobster. There are too many people involved for something to go unnoticed.

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        I can tell you don’t work in health insurance. Each diagnosis a doctor or hospital makes is a separate CPT code. There are thousands of codes and a single visit can result in multiple diagnosis.

        To your immediate question, AIDS is a great example where the presenting issue might be pneumonia, but the underlying condition is AIDS. There are so many similar examples: neuropathy and diabetes, Hepatitus C and cirrhosis, etc. Just know that the world isn’t against you, it’s just there are a lot of things you just don’t understand because you don’t work in that industry or have any formal training. The government if it were so inclined could mandate providers submit daily CPT code diagnosis of all patients for Lyme disease if it wanted to and making that report is maybe a half days work by a couple IT folks from each institution.
        You didn’t answer the question.
        What else , what other illness has been described as “ related’ ? Using that exact terminology ? Of course there can be multiple diagnosis, that could be quite common.
        But the terminology used is unique to COVID.
        “ COVID related” deaths ? Did you know that previous to the COVID pandemic, the State of Connecticut did not even have a centralized data system to record Death Certificates ?
        This isn’t just my opinion. There are many Health care Professionals , including Doctors, who believe that the separation of COVID from patient diagnosis could be clearer and more concise.
        It isn’t if you have it or not. If it isn’t the reason the patient is hospitalized, than it shouldn’t be listed as related to COVID . If you have a broken leg and a fractured rib from a car accident, and have to be hospitalized, and test positive for COVID, you shouldn’t be part of the statistic that the media uses .
        What should be said for the average age of deaths from COVID , in some places , being around the same or higher than the average life expectancy ?
        That might be useful information, but these facts appear to be buried.
        It is all really murky.
        AIDS? Isn’t the same “ scientist “ that has been working on a vaccine for that for ages directly involved in the current pandemic?

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          AIDS? Isn’t the same “ scientist “ that has been working on a vaccine for that for ages directly involved in the current pandemic?
          You lose all credibility when you put scare quotes around the word scientist. Why would you do that? Do you disbelieve that he's been in the field for decades? Do you doubt his credentials? Do you think he's somehow not a scientist or doctor?

          Also, no, he has not been working on a vaccine for AIDS. That is the work of scientists who work to create vaccines. Most of science is highly specialized, which is how we were able to have an incredibly effective COVID vaccine that an unbelievable high number of Americans won't take because they trust YouTube idiots over actual scientists and doctors.

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            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            You didn’t answer the question.
            What else , what other illness has been described as “ related’ ? Using that exact terminology ? Of course there can be multiple diagnosis, that could be quite common.
            But the terminology used is unique to COVID.
            “ COVID related” deaths ? Did you know that previous to the COVID pandemic, the State of Connecticut did not even have a centralized data system to record Death Certificates ?
            This isn’t just my opinion. There are many Health care Professionals , including Doctors, who believe that the separation of COVID from patient diagnosis could be clearer and more concise.
            It isn’t if you have it or not. If it isn’t the reason the patient is hospitalized, than it shouldn’t be listed as related to COVID . If you have a broken leg and a fractured rib from a car accident, and have to be hospitalized, and test positive for COVID, you shouldn’t be part of the statistic that the media uses .
            What should be said for the average age of deaths from COVID , in some places , being around the same or higher than the average life expectancy ?
            That might be useful information, but these facts appear to be buried.
            It is all really murky.
            AIDS? Isn’t the same “ scientist “ that has been working on a vaccine for that for ages directly involved in the current pandemic?

            You seem overly focused on the word related. You were given the answer. People who die from AIDS do not die from the condition, they die from viruses and bacteria their immune system cannot fight due to having AIDS. You are fighting the wrong battle, you should be asking yourself, why does my chosen media want me to doubt the case or death counts at this point in the pandemic? What is their agenda? If it’s to try and minimize the importance of public safety amid a pandemic, then I would worry. Every presidential election in the last 20 years has been decided by only a couple percent, if your chosen media causes you a disproportionate number of deaths in the next 2 years then you will cease to have a national voice and will lose every toss up state. In short, you will lose.

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              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              You lose all credibility when you put scare quotes around the word scientist. Why would you do that? Do you disbelieve that he's been in the field for decades? Do you doubt his credentials? Do you think he's somehow not a scientist or doctor?

              Also, no, he has not been working on a vaccine for AIDS. That is the work of scientists who work to create vaccines. Most of science is highly specialized, which is how we were able to have an incredibly effective COVID vaccine that an unbelievable high number of Americans won't take because they trust YouTube idiots over actual scientists and doctors.
              Yes this dude is funny. There are hundreds of scientists who have been working on HIV and AIDS for over 30 years - their whole careers. Has he been living under a rock for the last 30 years or just has COVID brain?

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                Half my kid’s elementary school classroom in Fairfield was out with Covid cases/contact before the holiday break. The masks are helpful but not 100% effective and now all the students are returning to school this week. Teachers will be compromised the same as flight attendants, pilots, restaurant and healthcare workers. Yet, there’s only a day or two pause with school. NCAA & professional games are being canceled but the CIAC has decided to move forward with all games regardless of the impact - as if masks during the will do the trick. Is no pause really a responsible response?

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                  Already some districts in our area have delayed 1-2 days and are frank enough to say "we are trying to figure this out. " I bet many do remote for 1-2 weeks. Many colleges are doing that. It allows some time for post holiday spread to dissipate. I do feel for parents of younger kids who have to grapple with on line learning, balancing jobs etc.

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                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    Yes this dude is funny. There are hundreds of scientists who have been working on HIV and AIDS for over 30 years - their whole careers. Has he been living under a rock for the last 30 years or just has COVID brain?
                    same with all the scientists who had been working on MNRA technology for vaccines. It's not a "new" technology

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                      Already some districts in our area have delayed 1-2 days and are frank enough to say "we are trying to figure this out. " I bet many do remote for 1-2 weeks. Many colleges are doing that. It allows some time for post holiday spread to dissipate. I do feel for parents of younger kids who have to grapple with on line learning, balancing jobs etc.
                      The state of CT will not recognize remote days as counting toward the total needed for the year... So no, they will not do remote for 1 or 2 weeks.

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                        The state of CT will not recognize remote days as counting toward the total needed for the year... So no, they will not do remote for 1 or 2 weeks.
                        A paperwork issue that is easily remedied if the state says so. Westport is already delaying a day, Darian will have remote learning for positive or quarantined kids sonic won't count as an absence.

                        Also school boards can adjust their vacation and end of year schedules like they do for missed snow days every single year.

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                          Originally posted by Guest View Post
                          Half my kid’s elementary school classroom in Fairfield was out with Covid cases/contact before the holiday break. The masks are helpful but not 100% effective and now all the students are returning to school this week. Teachers will be compromised the same as flight attendants, pilots, restaurant and healthcare workers. Yet, there’s only a day or two pause with school. NCAA & professional games are being canceled but the CIAC has decided to move forward with all games regardless of the impact - as if masks during the will do the trick. Is no pause really a responsible response?
                          Ciac or government won’t pause shyte. They’re just waiting for us all to shut ourselves down.

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                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            A paperwork issue that is easily remedied if the state says so. Westport is already delaying a day, Darian will have remote learning for positive or quarantined kids sonic won't count as an absence.

                            Also school boards can adjust their vacation and end of year schedules like they do for missed snow days every single year.
                            Sure...A day or two here and there to be tacked on the end of the year. But I highly doubt you see weeks of remote.

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                              No more pauses no more breaks. Masks are useless. Let's get back to normal we go to work kids go to school enough is enough

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                                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                                Sure...A day or two here and there to be tacked on the end of the year. But I highly doubt you see weeks of remote.
                                No I don't think so either - a week tops

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