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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    If a coach breaks a rule it is up to the ref to deal with it. Not some parking lot goon.
    What exactly was the refs role in what occurred? Oh wait, no one on TS was actually there to witness it.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Look, I agree and would have done the same thing. I just can't stand the hypocrisy of some people. The mentality in here is that of a ***** mob and no one has all the facts. The guy f'd up big time, that's clear as day. The rest isn't so clear, in fact it's rather murky. I just want more facts and they will eventually come out.
      Fact: Wilton's soccer program has been a mess for at least four years. Fact, Wilton couldn't clean it up. Fact, because of the sustained environment at Wilton, here we are with punch ups and assaults. Tear down this program.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Look, I agree and would have done the same thing. I just can't stand the hypocrisy of some people. The mentality in here is that of a ***** mob and no one has all the facts. The guy f'd up big time, that's clear as day. The rest isn't so clear, in fact it's rather murky. I just want more facts and they will eventually come out.
        breaking up a fight in the moment is very different than attacking a coach in the parking lot after the game.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          What exactly was the refs role in what occurred? Oh wait, no one on TS was actually there to witness it.
          Red cards were distributed to three players and zero coaches. Last time I checked, it its the ref that hands out red cards and I have seen them given to coaches.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Uh, no.
            There isn't a stated " duty to intervene " physically at all, for what occurred. . If you are implying that the coach should, due to the lack of a " safe environment " , remember that it was caused by the actions of the individuals involved.

            You can't hold someone legally responsible for not intervening if it is not dictated by previous notice. If you are trying to say it was negligent for not intervening, that is a different standard. Good Luck.
            What are you, an attorney or something? Your the coach, you see a fight right in front of you, you break it up. Period. Its called human decency. No attorney would pursue charges and no judge/jury would ever convict if some nut ball attorney tried to pursue. It would get thrown out so fast your head would spin. If the coach was overly rough, well that's a different story, but I do not see anybody claiming that here.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              What are you, an attorney or something? Your the coach, you see a fight right in front of you, you break it up. Period. Its called human decency. No attorney would pursue charges and no judge/jury would ever convict if some nut ball attorney tried to pursue. It would get thrown out so fast your head would spin. If the coach was overly rough, well that's a different story, but I do not see anybody claiming that here.
              No kidding. Have we come to a point where at a school event on school property, the adult staff present is not supposed to interfere when school children are physically fighting?

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                What are you, an attorney or something? Your the coach, you see a fight right in front of you, you break it up. Period. Its called human decency. No attorney would pursue charges and no judge/jury would ever convict if some nut ball attorney tried to pursue. It would get thrown out so fast your head would spin. If the coach was overly rough, well that's a different story, but I do not see anybody claiming that here.
                Where does it state , in regards to High School Soccer Coaches , that they should physically intervene if they witness two players fighting ?

                They are not obligated to do so, so therefore, should not.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Uh, no.
                  There isn't a stated " duty to intervene " physically at all, for what occurred. . If you are implying that the coach should, due to the lack of a " safe environment " , remember that it was caused by the actions of the individuals involved.

                  You can't hold someone legally responsible for not intervening if it is not dictated by previous notice. If you are trying to say it was negligent for not intervening, that is a different standard. Good Luck.
                  one of the individuals involved is under his care and he is the responsible party for her safety and the safety of her teamates he is also in a position of authority for the game itself

                  some of you people should take the legal part of the 40 hour coaching course given by the CIAC- coaches have a duty to help, intervene when child safety is an issue

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Lets drag the entire family to the town square and have them stoned. Anyone who has been a perfect parent or never made a bad mistake should bring some rocks
                    OK my pockets are filled. Can you send me an address for the Wilton town green for my GPS? He made his bed and now he has to sleep in it .... rocks and all.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Parent/Spectator Code of Conduct
                      Parents and Spectators must keep games in perspective and support the coaches, players and officials in a positive manner.

                      Parents/Spectators MUST:
                      Display and encourage good sportsmanship.
                      Respect the integrity and judgment of the officials.
                      Be respectful of all players, coaches, officials and other spectators.
                      Never target anyone for abuse whether it be physical, verbal or emotional.
                      Never engage in name calling, taunting, harassment, obscenities, and any other disrespectful language or gestures.
                      Always be a positive role model for other spectators and your child.
                      Cheer for your team and not against your opponent.
                      Make an effort to know and understand the rules of the game.
                      Recognize that attending a high school athletic contest is a privilege, not a license to verbally assault officials, coaches, team members or opposing team(s) and their spectators.

                      Failure to follow Code of Conduct rules could result in loss of spectator privileges and possible loss of student playing privileges if warranted.
                      Nothing in there specifically about headlocks or assaulting assistant coaches, so I guess he I am ok then. Thanks for baling me out.

                      -Sherm

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Where does it state , in regards to High School Soccer Coaches , that they should physically intervene if they witness two players fighting ?

                        They are not obligated to do so, so therefore, should not.
                        they are in the employ of the school- so if a coach knows there is going to be a fight and says nothing and someone dies -they arent liable? what if they see a fight and walk on by and someone gets hurt- no liability?
                        get real

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Where does it state , in regards to High School Soccer Coaches , that they should physically intervene if they witness two players fighting ?

                          They are not obligated to do so, so therefore, should not.
                          Yes they should. If my kid is involved in a physical altercation at any school activity, the adult staff present had better intervene.

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                            Lets drag the entire family to the town square and have them stoned. Anyone who has been a perfect parent or never made a bad mistake should bring some rocks.
                            Red cards are fine for the players.
                            Arrest is appropriate for the thug.
                            Now we need to suspend this failed soccer program because of its unhealthy atmosphere.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Actually the coaches shouldn't intervene at all, it's a violation and a liability issue. But that's besides the point. Eagan is wrong and will be prosecuted.
                              Man, when we were in HS if our coach stepped quickly toward you on the field during a game, you were far more scared of him and the consequences than anything. My parents would have supported him and piled on until I were dead. Thankfully, lesson learned after the first, mild incident .... never needed to push it again after that in any subsequent year. As soon as we heard coach YELL our name, we knew to back down if our replacement wasn't already standing at mid field. It sucked being in his dog house and it was hard to get out .... I think it was even worse for the top players as his expectations were so high for them. They learned too who the boss was and talent only seemed to make the penalties more severe and the leash shorter.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                they are in the employ of the school- so if a coach knows there is going to be a fight and says nothing and someone dies -they arent liable? what if they see a fight and walk on by and someone gets hurt- no liability?
                                get real
                                Stay on topic. This is not what happened in this case.

                                Just show me where in a Coach's written responsibilities , that they agree to when taking the position, that they have permission to physically intervene when two players are involved in a physical confrontation.

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