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    #16
    High school system works way better. The bottom line is the linesmen are so awful they never have the proper perspective so this is a moot point. If we had good linesmen, maybe the regular system would be better, but they just aren't . Refs stink everywhere, this is just the lesser of all evils.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      High school system works way better. The bottom line is the linesmen are so awful they never have the proper perspective so this is a moot point. If we had good linesmen, maybe the regular system would be better, but they just aren't . Refs stink everywhere, this is just the lesser of all evils.
      High school ref system sucks. Every game I watch I think I am at a Basketball game. A foul for every bump or push.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        High school system works way better. The bottom line is the linesmen are so awful they never have the proper perspective so this is a moot point. If we had good linesmen, maybe the regular system would be better, but they just aren't . Refs stink everywhere, this is just the lesser of all evils.
        HS works way better in many ways just one more example. Most HS teams would win state cup if club wouldn't ban them.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          HS works way better in many ways just one more example. Most HS teams would win state cup if club wouldn't ban them.
          This statement about HS would win state cup is just insane! First off most high schools are composed of players from several different clubs which never play together, but mainly high school coaches are usually not good level coaches. You have a few here and there that have a clue but not many.


          In terms of the HS refs. I think 3 refs with a whistle is just plain dumb. Instead of one guy on a power trip you have 3!!! Yes the refs in club are bad, but they are usually the same refs in HS and on top of that you get bad refs in the World Cup! Just my .02

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            "So instead of just raising a flag to show which way the throw in should go you actually got some value..."

            i hate to point out the glaring error here, but somebody has to do it. Far from your description above, the AR's role includes calling fouls, determining goal kicks or corner kicks, and most crucially, when a player is offside.

            in making an offside call, an AR must maintian a line-of-sight even with the last defender, and perpendicular to the touchline. This piece of geometry is the most effective way to determine if an opposing player is, in fact, "behind" the last defender at any given moment.

            If an AR is on the pitch with the touch line behind him and out of his peripheral line of site, there's no perpendicular visual refernce to judge a close offside call. Of course, sometimes (especially in HS ball) the call is painfully obvious. But in a close contest the perspective is crucial.
            you sir are absolutely spot on...I watched my first HS game 2 weeks back and was amazed when the linesmen (old school) strode onto the pitch......as you rightly say they were never in position to give a decent decision on offsides,coupled with the fact one was so fat he couldn't keep up with play it was laughable............stupid idea

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I watched a high school game last week and the ARs actually come onto the field in the final third and took an active role. So instead of just raising a flag to show which way the throw in should go you actually got some value. AR was able to call fouls that a single center ref could never see. Also works well for when there is a quick counter and center can not catch up.

              I would like to see club change to this system.

              By the way I am not comparing the level of soccer play or ref skills between soccer and club. Just talking about the ref system.
              Were you born stupid or did you develop the attribute ?

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                "So instead of just raising a flag to show which way the throw in should go you actually got some value..."

                i hate to point out the glaring error here, but somebody has to do it. Far from your description above, the AR's role includes calling fouls, determining goal kicks or corner kicks, and most crucially, when a player is offside.

                in making an offside call, an AR must maintian a line-of-sight even with the last defender, and perpendicular to the touchline. This piece of geometry is the most effective way to determine if an opposing player is, in fact, "behind" the last defender at any given moment.

                If an AR is on the pitch with the touch line behind him and out of his peripheral line of site, there's no perpendicular visual refernce to judge a close offside call. Of course, sometimes (especially in HS ball) the call is painfully obvious. But in a close contest the perspective is crucial.
                Good explanation. Thanks

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                  #23
                  florida high school referees

                  There is currently no plan in place to replace the double dual officiating system in FHSAA soccer.

                  Sincerely,

                  A-------- O-------
                  Assistant Director of Athletics
                  Florida High School Athletic Association
                  12/02/2013

                  This is exactly why you do not get information from TSF

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    There is currently no plan in place to replace the double dual officiating system in FHSAA soccer.

                    Sincerely,

                    A-------- O-------
                    Assistant Director of Athletics
                    Florida High School Athletic Association
                    12/02/2013

                    This is exactly why you do not get information from TSF
                    Oh yea HS soccer rules and beats club 95% proven.
                    Can't wait for states
                    Club tries to copy us.
                    Welcome

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