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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYour missing the most important factor. Younger people are the majority of the recent spike in cases.
The big question is whether the recent spike is capturing younger people with asymptotic cases. If so then these spikes are meaningless. We should know in a week or two. The ILI is not indicating an increase of people having flu like symptoms.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAh, no. Densely populated area, homeless population has a lot of cases, and despite its liberal reputation parts of SoCal are very conservative (eg Orange County). I have a few family and friends there all screaming on social media about how awful masks are. And since you mention immigration, a judge struck down the administration's rule on applying for asylum in their home country. Last week another judge ordered children in detention to be released. Trump is winning 😄
2nd you mention homeless. Are they dying in in large numbers? Have the tent cities come down? Is homeless no longer a problem in CA because they all died off?
Homeless have poor nutrition, high drug & alcohol use, mental disease, poor hygiene, underlying conditions, Inability to physically separate, and little to no medical care.
They are the perfect storm for this virus and disease and yet they are doing as well as all other Americans. Why?
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Here you go stupidfuks:
The rate of deaths is decreasing, so things are getting better, right?
The US recently reported its highest number of new Covid-19 cases in a single day, and doctors say the rate of infection is outpacing the increase in testing.
"Our daily case/new infection rate has really skyrocketed to over 40,000," said Dr. Jonathan Reiner, a professor at George Washington University School of Medicine.
Covid-19 deaths are expected to go down before a sharp rise in September, researcher says
Covid-19 deaths are expected to go down before a sharp rise in September, researcher says
Health experts say the current spikes in new cases coincide with what happened several weeks ago -- when states started reopening and many people abandoned safety measures such as wearing masks or social distancing.
Why it takes so long after infections to learn about diagnoses and deaths
Yet while new cases soar, the daily numbers of Covid-19 deaths have generally decreased. Don't be fooled by that, doctors say.
First, deaths from Covid-19 often lag weeks behind new infections. It can take up to two weeks for symptoms to appear. After that, people might not get tested immediately. Then, it can take even longer for severe cases to require hospitalization.
The US has 4% of the world's population but 25% of its Covid-19 cases
The US has 4% of the world's population but 25% of its Covid-19 cases
"It takes about a week after someone becomes infected until they get sick enough to be hospitalized, and then often about a week after that until you start seeing deaths," Reiner said.
"We've sort of plateaued with the death rate sort of fluctuating between 600 and 800 deaths per day. ... Obviously, everyone is concerned about the death rate starting to take off again."
Second, many of those newly infected are young people who are less likely to die from the virus. But they can still easily infect others by just talking or breathing.
With the current rates of transmission, "we will reach 100,000 cases per day" in the US, said internal medicine specialist Dr. Jorge Rodriguez.
With this virus, "one person -- on the average -- infects three people, and we're already at 40,000" new cases reported daily, Rodriguez said Tuesday.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLess deaths because physicians and nurses have a much better understanding how to treat covid-19 and new and better drugs .
Less deaths because nursing home civid patients separated immediately
Less deaths because hospitals not overrun
Virus could be mutating and not as severe
Either way, even if you live ,who the $@# wants to possibly be in the ICU for a month or two or three.
Use your common sense. Just use all the tools available not to contact it. Its not a political thing, its a safety thing for your family. DUH
The only evidence you submitted was fear.
All you mentioned are also true here in America.
Cases and deaths do not have a strong correlation.
This is a disease that thrives in Nursing homes. People in nursing homes are not as healthy as the rest of population. Nursing home is the last address before cemetery most of the time.
The population not living in acute care facilities are doing just fine with virus. ie 99.84% of the time.
It is time to move on.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHere you go stupidfuks:
The rate of deaths is decreasing, so things are getting better, right?
The US recently reported its highest number of new Covid-19 cases in a single day, and doctors say the rate of infection is outpacing the increase in testing.
"Our daily case/new infection rate has really skyrocketed to over 40,000," said Dr. Jonathan Reiner, a professor at George Washington University School of Medicine.
Covid-19 deaths are expected to go down before a sharp rise in September, researcher says
Covid-19 deaths are expected to go down before a sharp rise in September, researcher says
Health experts say the current spikes in new cases coincide with what happened several weeks ago -- when states started reopening and many people abandoned safety measures such as wearing masks or social distancing.
Why it takes so long after infections to learn about diagnoses and deaths
Yet while new cases soar, the daily numbers of Covid-19 deaths have generally decreased. Don't be fooled by that, doctors say.
First, deaths from Covid-19 often lag weeks behind new infections. It can take up to two weeks for symptoms to appear. After that, people might not get tested immediately. Then, it can take even longer for severe cases to require hospitalization.
The US has 4% of the world's population but 25% of its Covid-19 cases
The US has 4% of the world's population but 25% of its Covid-19 cases
"It takes about a week after someone becomes infected until they get sick enough to be hospitalized, and then often about a week after that until you start seeing deaths," Reiner said.
"We've sort of plateaued with the death rate sort of fluctuating between 600 and 800 deaths per day. ... Obviously, everyone is concerned about the death rate starting to take off again."
Second, many of those newly infected are young people who are less likely to die from the virus. But they can still easily infect others by just talking or breathing.
With the current rates of transmission, "we will reach 100,000 cases per day" in the US, said internal medicine specialist Dr. Jorge Rodriguez.
With this virus, "one person -- on the average -- infects three people, and we're already at 40,000" new cases reported daily, Rodriguez said Tuesday.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHere you go stupidfuks:
The rate of deaths is decreasing, so things are getting better, right?
The US recently reported its highest number of new Covid-19 cases in a single day, and doctors say the rate of infection is outpacing the increase in testing.
"Our daily case/new infection rate has really skyrocketed to over 40,000," said Dr. Jonathan Reiner, a professor at George Washington University School of Medicine.
Covid-19 deaths are expected to go down before a sharp rise in September, researcher says
Covid-19 deaths are expected to go down before a sharp rise in September, researcher says
Health experts say the current spikes in new cases coincide with what happened several weeks ago -- when states started reopening and many people abandoned safety measures such as wearing masks or social distancing.
Why it takes so long after infections to learn about diagnoses and deaths
Yet while new cases soar, the daily numbers of Covid-19 deaths have generally decreased. Don't be fooled by that, doctors say.
First, deaths from Covid-19 often lag weeks behind new infections. It can take up to two weeks for symptoms to appear. After that, people might not get tested immediately. Then, it can take even longer for severe cases to require hospitalization.
The US has 4% of the world's population but 25% of its Covid-19 cases
The US has 4% of the world's population but 25% of its Covid-19 cases
"It takes about a week after someone becomes infected until they get sick enough to be hospitalized, and then often about a week after that until you start seeing deaths," Reiner said.
"We've sort of plateaued with the death rate sort of fluctuating between 600 and 800 deaths per day. ... Obviously, everyone is concerned about the death rate starting to take off again."
Second, many of those newly infected are young people who are less likely to die from the virus. But they can still easily infect others by just talking or breathing.
With the current rates of transmission, "we will reach 100,000 cases per day" in the US, said internal medicine specialist Dr. Jorge Rodriguez.
With this virus, "one person -- on the average -- infects three people, and we're already at 40,000" new cases reported daily, Rodriguez said Tuesday.
We know how many people die on average every year. CDC tracks it. We have 20 years of good data.
The way to measure the scope of a pandemic is to see how many excess deaths we have. This means how many more people died then in an average year.
This is a reasonable assessment.
Last Friday, the CDC did it’s weekly release of numbers. Do you know what it said?
Of course you don’t.
It said that as of Friday 6/26 ALL DEATHS in the USA came back in line with the yearly averages. No excess deaths from Jan 1 - Jun 26.
This means that we are exactly where we are expecting to be despite COVID. COVID produced no excess death this year so far. Total of all deaths is exactly on pace with the last 20 years.
How do you reconcile that?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTake a more more general approach.
We know how many people die on average every year. CDC tracks it. We have 20 years of good data.
The way to measure the scope of a pandemic is to see how many excess deaths we have. This means how many more people died then in an average year.
This is a reasonable assessment.
Last Friday, the CDC did it’s weekly release of numbers. Do you know what it said?
Of course you don’t.
It said that as of Friday 6/26 ALL DEATHS in the USA came back in line with the yearly averages. No excess deaths from Jan 1 - Jun 26.
This means that we are exactly where we are expecting to be despite COVID. COVID produced no excess death this year so far. Total of all deaths is exactly on pace with the last 20 years.
How do you reconcile that?
So for the period of Jan1 - July 1 we are (5,260) excess deaths
That means for this period of time 5,260 less people died then expected.
How does that work where you have a pandemic with 120,000 + dead and yet your year to date all cause death count is 5,260 under our average for this date.
We have a pandemic and less people then normal are dying.
Think about what we are being sold by politicians and media.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLet me update you. CDC released the weekly all death numbers for this week.
So for the period of Jan1 - July 1 we are (5,260) excess deaths
That means for this period of time 5,260 less people died then expected.
How does that work where you have a pandemic with 120,000 + dead and yet your year to date all cause death count is 5,260 under our average for this date.
We have a pandemic and less people then normal are dying.
Think about what we are being sold by politicians and media.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLet me update you. CDC released the weekly all death numbers for this week.
So for the period of Jan1 - July 1 we are (5,260) excess deaths
That means for this period of time 5,260 less people died then expected.
How does that work where you have a pandemic with 120,000 + dead and yet your year to date all cause death count is 5,260 under our average for this date.
We have a pandemic and less people then normal are dying.
Think about what we are being sold by politicians and media.
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