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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    I am sure FYSA probably didn’t make the rules as clear as they should have. I honestly didn’t look but I can tell you for as long as I can remember it has always been PPG. I can't think of any other fair way to do it. How would you like to be a team playing 2 games trying to compete with other teams that get to play 3? It is unfortunate that you were confused by the poor documentation. I am by FAR not an FYSA fan but I don’t see any conspiracy here.
    VI. Determination of standings
    1. Group/round-robin play in Preliminary Rounds
    In any elimination game, overtime procedures will be the same as utilized in State Cup games. In group/round robin play, there will be no overtime games. Standings in a group will be determined as defined below. In no case, once a tie breaker has been used, will it be revisited if a team is eliminated. Points and tie-break criteria do not carryover to subsequent group play rounds.

    A. First: game points: 3 points for a Win
    1 point for a Tie
    0 points for a Loss

    B. Second as follows:
    1) Head-to-head competition (not used if 3 or more teams are tied on points); if no clear
    winner, then
    2) Net Goal Differential (NGD) calculated as goals scored minus goals allowed, with a
    maximum NGD of +/- four (4) per game; if no clear winner, then
    3) Most Goals scored, maximum of four (4) goals counted per game; if no clear winner,
    then
    4) Least Goals against (no limit to number of goals allowed); if no clear winner, then
    5) Penalty kicks in accordance with FIFA “Taking of Kicks from the Penalty Mark”

    C. If three or more teams are still tied, then:
    1) In the event three (3) teams are tied at the end of group play and are tied through all the
    above tie breakers, the Site Director will hold a random draw with the 1st team drawn
    sitting out. The other two teams will then take kicks from the mark to establish a winner.
    The winner of this will then play the team sitting out, (kicks from the mark) and the
    winner will advance. If a 2nd team advances from this group, PK’s will be taken by the 2
    teams that lost their kicks from the mark pairing, to determine the next team to advance.
    2) In the event that four (4) teams tie at the end of group play, the site director will hold a
    random draw with the first team drawn playing the second team drawn, (kicks from the
    mark) The third and fourth teams will also take kicks from the mark. The two winners will
    then take kicks from the mark with the winning team advancing. If a 2nd team advances,
    the losing team in this pairing will be the next advancer.


    Nothing here about PPG

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      #32
      Moron

      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      VI. Determination of standings
      1. Group/round-robin play in Preliminary Rounds
      In any elimination game, overtime procedures will be the same as utilized in State Cup games. In group/round robin play, there will be no overtime games. Standings in a group will be determined as defined below. In no case, once a tie breaker has been used, will it be revisited if a team is eliminated. Points and tie-break criteria do not carryover to subsequent group play rounds.

      A. First: game points: 3 points for a Win
      1 point for a Tie
      0 points for a Loss

      B. Second as follows:
      1) Head-to-head competition (not used if 3 or more teams are tied on points); if no clear
      winner, then
      2) Net Goal Differential (NGD) calculated as goals scored minus goals allowed, with a
      maximum NGD of +/- four (4) per game; if no clear winner, then
      3) Most Goals scored, maximum of four (4) goals counted per game; if no clear winner,
      then
      4) Least Goals against (no limit to number of goals allowed); if no clear winner, then
      5) Penalty kicks in accordance with FIFA “Taking of Kicks from the Penalty Mark”

      C. If three or more teams are still tied, then:
      1) In the event three (3) teams are tied at the end of group play and are tied through all the
      above tie breakers, the Site Director will hold a random draw with the 1st team drawn
      sitting out. The other two teams will then take kicks from the mark to establish a winner.
      The winner of this will then play the team sitting out, (kicks from the mark) and the
      winner will advance. If a 2nd team advances from this group, PK’s will be taken by the 2
      teams that lost their kicks from the mark pairing, to determine the next team to advance.
      2) In the event that four (4) teams tie at the end of group play, the site director will hold a
      random draw with the first team drawn playing the second team drawn, (kicks from the
      mark) The third and fourth teams will also take kicks from the mark. The two winners will
      then take kicks from the mark with the winning team advancing. If a 2nd team advances,
      the losing team in this pairing will be the next advancer.


      Nothing here about PPG
      Your own post says STANDINGS IN A GROUP not standings for a wildcard between different groups.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Your own post says STANDINGS IN A GROUP not standings for a wildcard between different groups.
        Utilizing that logic, then it's even worse. Thye have nothing that speaks to advancement from group play to round of 16, only how to determine group winners.

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          #34
          Groupings & Team Advancements

          https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/ass...vancements.pdf

          GU12
          Starts play in Round 1
          9 Groups – #1 from each group advance to Round of 16 (No Round 2)
          + 7 WC (Most Points)

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            #35
            A real disgrace for the FYSA group and how they twist the rules for the benefit of 2 teams at TBU

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              A real disgrace for the FYSA group and how they twist the rules for the benefit of 2 teams at TBU
              Yeah they waited for all the results and thought hmmmmm let's drop everything- what can we come up with that will benefit the 2 teams you mentioned.....?

              It's PPG, please move on....

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                #37
                Somebody better call Saul!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Yeah they waited for all the results and thought hmmmmm let's drop everything- what can we come up with that will benefit the 2 teams you mentioned.....?

                  It's PPG, please move on....
                  Will gladly move on once you can show all of us (especially Oldsmar and Space Coast) where in the rules it says PHO?
                  Facts
                  1- doesn't exist ... rules says most points! No asterisk exists.
                  2- TBU Largo has direct family ties to FYSA!

                  I would.like to see you refute these points

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Will gladly move on once you can show all of us (especially Oldsmar and Space Coast) where in the rules it says PHO?
                    Facts
                    1- doesn't exist ... rules says most points! No asterisk exists.
                    2- TBU Largo has direct family ties to FYSA!

                    I would.like to see you refute these points
                    No response ! Crickets

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                      #40
                      Then ask for the manager and get a refund!

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Some groups have 3 teams, the majority have 4, so obviously a formula is needed to ensure the groups of 3 are not at a disadvantage for only playing 2 games. FYSA used points per game to determine the standings.
                        The advantage of being in a 3 team bracket is you have a better chance of WINNING the bracket. You only have to beat out 2 teams instead of 3.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          No response ! Crickets
                          File an appeal.

                          Remove the family ties nonsense. The issue has enough capacity on its own merit and will only be hindered if you sling mud around.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            File an appeal.

                            Remove the family ties nonsense. The issue has enough capacity on its own merit and will only be hindered if you sling mud around.
                            And don't forget to change your tampon. There seems to be some discomfort.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              File an appeal.

                              Remove the family ties nonsense. The issue has enough capacity on its own merit and will only be hindered if you sling mud around.
                              Remove the main reason why this happened?
                              A previous poster denied that was the case, but when pressed they could not
                              deny that fact. Even people on the east coast are talking about this charade.
                              The parties involved did not expect the spotlight to be this big on this issue.
                              You cant screw over 2 legitimate teams (Oldsmar and Space Coast) to protect the daughter of an FYSA official !!
                              Its just so wrong on so many levels !!

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                                #45
                                This is ridiculous. There is no scenario where it is fair that teams that were in three team brackets get the same fair shot as teams in four team brackets, without using PPG. I don't know which Oldsmar parent is so worked up about this, but you are completely off base. File your appeal. Expect to lose. Better luck next season.

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