'01 Girls

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Sorry but a CFC '01 A-team player who ended up making Regionals, didn't make even make the first 40 RTC players (and Irish players who did, joined ETFC - 2 at the '02 B team level). I believe Erik was called about this particular CFC A team starting player and she was eventually given a 2nd look & taken. But, it's not a conspiracy, it's just club politics as usual in Oregon. No one is shocked to hear that hosting clubs & coaches favor their own club players. That's club politics as usual and all of the bigger clubs do the same thing. No surprise. iIf the Irish were the big club in town & hosted RTC, bet many deserving Etfc players would be passed over. Now that CFC will have their own RTC, wonder how many Wafc, etc players are passed over and lesser cfc players given spots. Folks with the power make the rules in their favor. Not fair but that's life. RTC is a money grab for the majority of players anyway. ODP isn't what it once was.

You are frustrated. Fair. But don't drag other players and teams into it. B

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Sorry but a CFC '01 A-team player who ended up making Regionals, didn't make even make the first 40 RTC players (and Irish players who did, joined ETFC - 2 at the '02 B team level). I believe Erik was called about this particular CFC A team starting player and she was eventually given a 2nd look & taken. But, it's not a conspiracy, it's just club politics as usual in Oregon. No one is shocked to hear that hosting clubs & coaches favor their own club players. That's club politics as usual and all of the bigger clubs do the same thing. No surprise. iIf the Irish were the big club in town & hosted RTC, bet many deserving Etfc players would be passed over. Now that CFC will have their own RTC, wonder how many Wafc, etc players are passed over and lesser cfc players given spots. Folks with the power make the rules in their favor. Not fair but that's life. RTC is a money grab for the majority of players anyway. ODP isn't what it once was.

This would not have occurred if OYSA held RTC accountable for the ETFC debacle. Clearly if the Timbers Alliance had a say the ODP regionals would not have overlooked the Irish contingent.

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Jeez. Who knew there was so little love down south. And we all thought it was rainbows and unicorns down there.

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This would not have occurred if OYSA held RTC accountable for the ETFC debacle. Clearly if the Timbers Alliance had a say the ODP regionals would not have overlooked the Irish contingent.

OYSA contracted RTC/ODP out to the Timbers. Timbers run it the way they want. OYSA is only alive today because of the Timbers so they aren't going to say or do anything.

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True. ODP is. "Open" to all (they'll happily take your try out fee) but don't expect fair treatment if you don't play for a Timbers Alliance team.

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If OYSA mandates a change to birth year age groups starting fall of 2016, how will that shake up the current '01 top teams? Are the majority of top players on current '01 top teams born in 2001 or 2002? Will some teams be devastated & some fine? Will teams stay together and "play up" to the older 2001 age group and risk losing top team status? I know our team really wants to stay together. Will the clubs allow it?

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If OYSA mandates a change to birth year age groups starting fall of 2016, how will that shake up the current '01 top teams? Are the majority of top players on current '01 top teams born in 2001 or 2002? Will some teams be devastated & some fine? Will teams stay together and "play up" to the older 2001 age group and risk losing top team status? I know our team really wants to stay together. Will the clubs allow it?

The answer is "it depends". Every team and club is different. At our club, the top team is almost exactly 50% 01's and 50% 02's. Clubs with 2-3 teams at each age group will all move to the new calendar year grouping and not allow playups. Clubs with only 1 team in an age group and/or with missing age groups may not have a choice but to play up and be less competitive. Won't affect teams in the Crossfire Oregon group (WUSC, LO, Southside, Oregon City, Clackamas) as they disappear after U14 anyway and get rolled into the Crossfire teams.

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If OYSA mandates a change to birth year age groups starting fall of 2016...

OYSA has no choice. US Youth Soccer has mandated that all of their state associations will move to calendar year age groups for the 2016-17 season.

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True. ODP is. "Open" to all (they'll happily take your try out fee) but don't expect fair treatment if you don't play for a Timbers Alliance team.

ODP has been downgraded significantly now that it's been replaced by the Thorns Academy. RTC at the younger ages can still be good for those kids at clubs where the training isn't very good but the same or better training and competitive opportunities can be found at the top clubs without the extra expense of RTC.

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The answer is "it depends". Every team and club is different. At our club, the top team is almost exactly 50% 01's and 50% 02's. Clubs with 2-3 teams at each age group will all move to the new calendar year grouping and not allow playups. Clubs with only 1 team in an age group and/or with missing age groups may not have a choice but to play up and be less competitive. Won't affect teams in the Crossfire Oregon group (WUSC, LO, Southside, Oregon City, Clackamas) as they disappear after U14 anyway and get rolled into the Crossfire teams.

Are you sure the bigger clubs that have enough players in the different birth years won't allow play-ups? Our '01 top level team is about 60% 2001s and 40% 2002s. Most of the 2002 group are starters & besties with the older girls. Most of the 2001 starters will no longer be starters on a full 2001 team. Parents, particularly of the 2001s who will no longer start if have to switch (some parents with major power within club) will push hard to stay together so their dd can stay with friends & continue to be an A team starter. Every team in the club might want to stay together. Will the club's snip the intent of the change and let teams stay together?

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Question; if an '01 team qualifies for Fwrl for 2016/17 and that club's '00 and '02 teams don't, when the '01 team's players are split with half 2001s & half 2002s at new birth year tryouts in May 2016, what team gets to play in Fwrl? 2002s? 2001s? Both? Neither? Similar issues for State Cup winning teams who qualify to go to regionals after tryouts...? If teams aren't grandfathered in, it's going to be a cluster.

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Question; if an '01 team qualifies for Fwrl for 2016/17 and that club's '00 and '02 teams don't, when the '01 team's players are split with half 2001s & half 2002s at new birth year tryouts in May 2016, what team gets to play in Fwrl? 2002s? 2001s? Both? Neither? Similar issues for State Cup winning teams who qualify to go to regionals after tryouts...? If teams aren't grandfathered in, it's going to be a cluster.

How will the teams be handled at the U14/U15 age? Next year some of the 02's will be in 8th grade and some will be Freshman? How will that work?

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Question; if an '01 team qualifies for Fwrl for 2016/17 and that club's '00 and '02 teams don't, when the '01 team's players are split with half 2001s & half 2002s at new birth year tryouts in May 2016, what team gets to play in Fwrl? 2002s? 2001s? Both? Neither? Similar issues for State Cup winning teams who qualify to go to regionals after tryouts...? If teams aren't grandfathered in, it's going to be a cluster.

Not an issue for Regionals as you have to take your state cup roster anyway. FWRL will have clear rules when the time comes.

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Are you sure the bigger clubs that have enough players in the different birth years won't allow play-ups? Our '01 top level team is about 60% 2001s and 40% 2002s. Most of the 2002 group are starters & besties with the older girls. Most of the 2001 starters will no longer be starters on a full 2001 team. Parents, particularly of the 2001s who will no longer start if have to switch (some parents with major power within club) will push hard to stay together so their dd can stay with friends & continue to be an A team starter. Every team in the club might want to stay together. Will the club's snip the intent of the change and let teams stay together?

Strong clubs will follow the rules. Weak clubs won't.

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How will the teams be handled at the U14/U15 age? Next year some of the 02's will be in 8th grade and some will be Freshman? How will that work?

No fall league.