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    #61
    And forgot to add - Chicago (ECNL).

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      #62
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      And forgot to add - Chicago (ECNL).

      My bad. I tried to have a serious discussion but you've lost the plot. You're all over the place.

      Keep ranting if it makes you feel better.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        but you still paid by doing those...right??? So how are you saving??
        I don't think you are following. The OP is saying that his kid didn't have to do those. ODP gave his kid the exposure to get committed early. I get it. It's another avenue without having to spend ECNL or GDA money.

        Not everyone has to go to all of those events. A lot of clubs don't and some do more.
        It's crazy what is being spent in soccer by families.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I don't think you are following. The OP is saying that his kid didn't have to do those. ODP gave his kid the exposure to get committed early. I get it. It's another avenue without having to spend ECNL or GDA money.

          Not everyone has to go to all of those events. A lot of clubs don't and some do more.
          It's crazy what is being spent in soccer by families.
          You are right, I don't get it. He was with a club (there is some dollar value with that but he wont' tell us) and ODP. He felt he got exposure through ODP that going to ECNL (or GDA, can't tell) and was unnecessary.

          Until we see how much was spent to play his first club & ODP and this thing he is referring to vs. what you outlay for cash in ECNL or GDA, there is no way to tell.

          So, correct, I'm not following. I'm not advocating for anything, either. Just trying to get a straight answer

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            #65
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            but you still paid by doing those...right??? So how are you saving??
            She didn't do all of those. She was already committed through exposure at ODP.
            But others did and it's very expensive.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              She didn't do all of those. She was already committed through exposure at ODP.
              But others did and it's very expensive.
              So, I will ask again...for what I believe is the 4th time.

              What did you pay when you were with a club and ODP?

              What did you pay when you were with ECNL?

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                #67
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                She didn't do all of those. She was already committed through exposure at ODP.
                But others did and it's very expensive.
                If she was already committed from odp why did she go to
                Ecnl then Leave ecnl and go to gda

                And how did you save money and laugh all
                The way to the bank and afford all
                Those extra luxuries. Seems like you spent more than a family who just played ecnl or gda

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  So, I will ask again...for what I believe is the 4th time.

                  What did you pay when you were with a club and ODP?

                  What did you pay when you were with ECNL?
                  You are not clear.
                  Do you mean just fees or expenses as well (housing, flight, meals)?

                  (3500 club/fees + $2000 odp);
                  (approx. 8000+ ECNL/fees + $2000 odp);
                  (approx. 7000+ GDA/fees + 0 odp).

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    If she was already committed from odp why did she go to
                    Ecnl then Leave ecnl and go to gda

                    And how did you save money and laugh all
                    The way to the bank and afford all
                    Those extra luxuries. Seems like you spent more than a family who just played ecnl or gda
                    To continue to challenge herself and keep up her skills. She wasn't the only early commit that followed this path.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      If she was already committed from odp why did she go to
                      Ecnl then Leave ecnl and go to gda

                      And how did you save money and laugh all
                      The way to the bank and afford all
                      Those extra luxuries. Seems like you spent more than a family who just played ecnl or gda
                      Laughing all the way to the bank now as my kids all were scholar athletes in college and received huge scholarships. In the end, I saved/continue to save much more than I laid out.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        You are not clear.
                        Do you mean just fees or expenses as well (housing, flight, meals)?

                        (3500 club/fees + $2000 odp);
                        (approx. 8000+ ECNL/fees + $2000 odp);
                        (approx. 7000+ GDA/fees + 0 odp).
                        Yes, all fees included. You are referencing all the travel so that needs to be part of the equation

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Yes, all fees included. You are referencing all the travel so that needs to be part of the equation
                          I have no idea. I can only estimate.
                          It was between $10,000-15,000 per year for ECNL (huge money here).
                          GDA was a little less than ECNL as you don't have weekly hotel room expense generally. ODP was a bargain in comparison.

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                            #73
                            And while some are poking fun at the level of play in ODP currently. Not all ECNL or GDA teams are top notch either. In fact, many are not.

                            The exercise isn't getting into the experience of ECNL and GDA and ODP.
                            They were all great experiences.

                            It's about the expense and how some, who can not afford it or logistically can't do it, can still get in front of good coaches and not be in GDA or ECNL.

                            It's another potential avenue to be discovered.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Here is a list of 2 if the 3 games my daughters team played in the San Diego playoffs in June
                              There is no comparison. And the Colorado and Florida showcases were very similar

                              It’s on black and white . Real facts . Decide for yourself. 100 coaches over 2 games



                              COACH/NAME
                              Attended Sunday
                              6-23-19
                              (34 Coaches)
                              Attended Tuesday
                              6-25-19
                              (64Coaches)

                              American University
                              Declynn
                              X


                              ARMY
                              Lauren
                              X 2nd


                              Baldwin Wallace University
                              Tara

                              X 2nd

                              Baylor University
                              Matt Smith
                              X


                              Boston College
                              Rachel

                              X

                              Boston University
                              Tori, Kelly, Nancy
                              X 2nd
                              X

                              Bucknell University
                              David

                              X 2nd

                              Campbell University
                              Sandi

                              X

                              Clemson University
                              Serrie
                              X
                              X

                              College of Charleston
                              Christain
                              X


                              Columbia University
                              Amphone K
                              X
                              X 2nd

                              Cornell University
                              Dwight

                              X

                              Creighton University
                              Lisa

                              X

                              Dartmouth University
                              Taylor, Ron
                              X
                              X

                              Davidson College
                              Adam?

                              X

                              Dixie State University
                              Paul
                              X


                              Dominican College
                              Sean

                              X

                              Earlham College
                              Chad

                              X 2nd

                              East Carolina University
                              Emily

                              X

                              Elon University
                              Neil

                              X

                              Emory University
                              Sue

                              X

                              Florida Gulf Coast University
                              Brock

                              X 2nd

                              Fordham University
                              Jessica

                              X 2nd

                              Georgia Southern
                              Brian

                              X

                              Georgia State
                              Ed

                              X

                              Holy Cross
                              Casey
                              X


                              James Madison University
                              Josh
                              X


                              James Madison University
                              Josh

                              X

                              Kansas State University
                              Gad
                              X


                              Kansas University
                              Laura
                              X


                              Lehigh University
                              Eric
                              X
                              X

                              Louisville University
                              Andy

                              X

                              Oklahoma State University
                              Karen
                              X 2nd


                              Old Dominion University
                              Sam Thomas
                              X
                              X

                              Ole Miss University
                              Rob

                              X

                              Pepperdine University
                              Tim
                              X 2nd


                              Point Loma Nazarene University
                              Kelly
                              X


                              Providence College
                              Kyle

                              X

                              Purdue University
                              Drew & Jim
                              X
                              X

                              Purdue University
                              Katie

                              X

                              Samford University
                              Joyce, Todd
                              X
                              X

                              San Diego State University
                              Mike
                              X


                              Southern Methodist University
                              Matt

                              X

                              St. John’s University
                              Jenn
                              X
                              X

                              St. John’s University
                              Jen

                              X

                              Stetson University
                              Lucas

                              X 2nd

                              TCU Texas Christian University
                              Tom
                              X


                              Texas A&M Corpus Christi
                              Chris

                              X

                              Towson University
                              Catherine

                              X

                              UNC, University NC Greensboro
                              Michael
                              X
                              X

                              University Illinois Chicago
                              Matt
                              X


                              University NC Greensboro
                              Michael, Jeff

                              X

                              University of Alabama
                              Wes
                              X


                              University of Alabama Birmingham
                              Lee, Erica
                              X 2nd
                              X

                              University of Central Florida UFC
                              Tim

                              X

                              University of Cincinnati
                              Gavin,Justin,Hylton
                              X
                              X

                              University of Cincinnati
                              Maddie

                              X

                              University of Delaware
                              Mike (assitant)
                              X
                              X

                              University of Florida
                              Becky

                              X

                              University of Georgia
                              Robert

                              X

                              University of Hawaii
                              Rachel

                              X

                              University of Houston
                              Diego/Danisha
                              X
                              X

                              University of Massachusetts
                              Jason

                              X

                              University of Massachusetts Lowell
                              Mira

                              X

                              University of Michigan
                              Tiffany

                              X

                              University of New Hampshire
                              Steve

                              X

                              University of Providence
                              Sam

                              X

                              University of South Carolina
                              Clark

                              X

                              University of Tampa
                              Erin
                              X


                              University of Tampa
                              Britton

                              X

                              University of Tennessee
                              Joe

                              X

                              University of Virginia
                              Jaime
                              X


                              Utah State
                              Trevor

                              X

                              UTEP University Texas El Paso
                              Kat

                              X

                              Virginia Commonwealth University
                              Marty

                              X

                              Virginia Tech
                              Drew

                              X

                              Wake Forest University
                              Courtney

                              X 2nd

                              West Virginia University
                              Lisa
                              X


                              Western Kentucky
                              Katie

                              X

                              Western Michigan
                              Sammy

                              X 2nd

                              William & Mary College
                              Julie
                              X
                              X 2nd

                              Wofford College
                              Emily

                              X

                              Xavier College
                              Kelsey

                              X 2nd
                              And what did it cost you for your week in SD?
                              Know these colleges well as many were recruiting my D too and many through ODP.

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                And what did it cost you for your week in SD?
                                Know these colleges well as many were recruiting my D too and many through ODP.
                                Not the OP, but for our club the team traveled and stayed together. $1k fee for that; parents didn't need to go.

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