Odp

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ODP was a minimal cost when compared with the club costs. And, in ODP she garnered a lot of interest early in the process. Was the best money we spent in soccer. So, coaches were already looking for her in ECNL and GDA (although no ODP).

GDA could not do ODP; ECNL still did.

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ODP was a minimal cost when compared with the club costs. And, in ODP she garnered a lot of interest early in the process. Was the best money we spent in soccer. So, coaches were already looking for her in ECNL and GDA (although no ODP).

You aren't answering my question. What was the costs when Club and ODP are combined.

Trying to get an apples-to-apples comparison.

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Sure more at the ECNL or GDA showcases. No one is disputing more coaches attend ECNL or GDA showcases, but at 3x's the cost.

With ODP, at the Boca event, housing, meals, etc. are all included in a very reasonable cost. And parents don't have to attend unless you want to. It's just an example of how to get in front of very good coaches for less money.

Here is a list of 2 if the 3 games my daughters team played in the San Diego playoffs in June
There is no comparison. And the Colorado and Florida showcases were very similar

It’s on black and white . Real facts . Decide for yourself. 100 coaches over 2 games



COACH/NAME
Attended Sunday
6-23-19
(34 Coaches)
Attended Tuesday
6-25-19
(64Coaches)

American University
Declynn
X


ARMY
Lauren
X 2nd


Baldwin Wallace University
Tara

X 2nd

Baylor University
Matt Smith
X


Boston College
Rachel

X

Boston University
Tori, Kelly, Nancy
X 2nd
X

Bucknell University
David

X 2nd

Campbell University
Sandi

X

Clemson University
Serrie
X
X

College of Charleston
Christain
X


Columbia University
Amphone K
X
X 2nd

Cornell University
Dwight

X

Creighton University
Lisa

X

Dartmouth University
Taylor, Ron
X
X

Davidson College
Adam?

X

Dixie State University
Paul
X


Dominican College
Sean

X

Earlham College
Chad

X 2nd

East Carolina University
Emily

X

Elon University
Neil

X

Emory University
Sue

X

Florida Gulf Coast University
Brock

X 2nd

Fordham University
Jessica

X 2nd

Georgia Southern
Brian

X

Georgia State
Ed

X

Holy Cross
Casey
X


James Madison University
Josh
X


James Madison University
Josh

X

Kansas State University
Gad
X


Kansas University
Laura
X


Lehigh University
Eric
X
X

Louisville University
Andy

X

Oklahoma State University
Karen
X 2nd


Old Dominion University
Sam Thomas
X
X

Ole Miss University
Rob

X

Pepperdine University
Tim
X 2nd


Point Loma Nazarene University
Kelly
X


Providence College
Kyle

X

Purdue University
Drew & Jim
X
X

Purdue University
Katie

X

Samford University
Joyce, Todd
X
X

San Diego State University
Mike
X


Southern Methodist University
Matt

X

St. John’s University
Jenn
X
X

St. John’s University
Jen

X

Stetson University
Lucas

X 2nd

TCU Texas Christian University
Tom
X


Texas A&M Corpus Christi
Chris

X

Towson University
Catherine

X

UNC, University NC Greensboro
Michael
X
X

University Illinois Chicago
Matt
X


University NC Greensboro
Michael, Jeff

X

University of Alabama
Wes
X


University of Alabama Birmingham
Lee, Erica
X 2nd
X

University of Central Florida UFC
Tim

X

University of Cincinnati
Gavin,Justin,Hylton
X
X

University of Cincinnati
Maddie

X

University of Delaware
Mike (assitant)
X
X

University of Florida
Becky

X

University of Georgia
Robert

X

University of Hawaii
Rachel

X

University of Houston
Diego/Danisha
X
X

University of Massachusetts
Jason

X

University of Massachusetts Lowell
Mira

X

University of Michigan
Tiffany

X

University of New Hampshire
Steve

X

University of Providence
Sam

X

University of South Carolina
Clark

X

University of Tampa
Erin
X


University of Tampa
Britton

X

University of Tennessee
Joe

X

University of Virginia
Jaime
X


Utah State
Trevor

X

UTEP University Texas El Paso
Kat

X

Virginia Commonwealth University
Marty

X

Virginia Tech
Drew

X

Wake Forest University
Courtney

X 2nd

West Virginia University
Lisa
X


Western Kentucky
Katie

X

Western Michigan
Sammy

X 2nd

William & Mary College
Julie
X
X 2nd

Wofford College
Emily

X

Xavier College
Kelsey

X 2nd

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GDA could not do ODP; ECNL still did.

Pda does not do odp

Neither does match fit

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And my youngest isn't in ECNL or GDA yet. She is playing USYS. Her sister, who is currently in college and playing, top DI, 95% scholarship was in ODP/USYS; ODP/ECNL and then GDA (no ODP allowed). Her oldest sister is out of school, graduated, played another sport, DI, full ride.

So, I am living the Title IX dream.

Phony

She played ecnl and da

But you said you didn’t spend money on those

And that’s where she was seen

What a liar

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But what about the real cost? Airfare

This guy is hysterical

He picks the part that supports his argument and ignored the rest

So you had to
Fly to Florida on top
Of what you paid for odp
And what you paid to be in your club and your club showcases


Penny wise dollar foolish

I bet you called the boys trip
A vacation and didn’t count it as a soccer expense

Well
Them
We went to Colorado
Florida and San Diego on vacation and the da was very cheap


Fool

You forget Arizona & FL too in ECNL & FL during peak vacation time during xmas through New Year also not cheap - flights or hotels; SD multiple times (ECNL & GDA) (for about a week) and about a week in FL (Lakeland). Plus ECNL does non-ECNL showcases too (VA, NC, MD). Only reasonable expense with ECNL was NJ tourneys.

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Back to my question...what is the cash outlay for a club & ODP (with this showcase/tournament you referenced)?

Disregard a town travel team cost as that's not an apples to apples comparison.

You won’t get an answer from him

Go back and look at the beginning he was crowing on how he saved money for luxuries by not playing gda or ecnl and doing odp

Now she played gda and ecnl and odp
So he spent even more money

He doesn’t ever address a point and talks circles

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Phony

She played ecnl and da

But you said you didn’t spend money on those

And that’s where she was seen

What a liar

Yeah I'm trying to work with this guy to understand what the point is.

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You forget Arizona & FL too in ECNL & FL during peak vacation time during xmas through New Year also not cheap - flights or hotels; SD multiple times (ECNL & GDA) (for about a week) and about a week in FL (Lakeland). Plus ECNL does non-ECNL showcases too (VA, NC, MD). Only reasonable expense with ECNL was NJ tourneys.

These are examples not all inclusive of the various schedules of the competitions in each leagues. Can get pretty costly if you are attending too (time from office, additional tickets to fly, and such).

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You forget Arizona & FL too in ECNL & FL during peak vacation time during xmas through New Year also not cheap - flights or hotels; SD multiple times (ECNL & GDA) (for about a week) and about a week in FL (Lakeland). Plus ECNL does non-ECNL showcases too (VA, NC, MD). Only reasonable expense with ECNL was NJ tourneys.

So I was referring to da regarding 3 showcases

Not sure which ecnl club you were at but most just do regular ecnl
Events and local
Showcases

That said you did them
All after saying you saved money by not doing them

Exposed!!!

Your 1st wife must be so happy to be collecting your money and not having tomlisten tomyou drone on about stuff you make believe you know

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You won’t get an answer from him

Go back and look at the beginning he was crowing on how he saved money for luxuries by not playing gda or ecnl and doing odp

Now she played gda and ecnl and odp
So he spent even more money

He doesn’t ever address a point and talks circles

Played ODP/USYS; then moved to ECNL and still did ODP and then GDA (no ODP allowed). Was first seen in ODP and then followed by coaches. Do you need a pen to connect the dots? Others did it too.

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Played ODP/USYS; then moved to ECNL and still did ODP and then GDA (no ODP allowed). Was first seen in ODP and then followed by coaches. Do you need a pen to connect the dots? Others did it too.

She played ecnl
And da. That’s the point

But you are too slow to
Get it

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Played ODP/USYS; then moved to ECNL and still did ODP and then GDA (no ODP allowed). Was first seen in ODP and then followed by coaches. Do you need a pen to connect the dots? Others did it too.

How much did you pay for ODP/USYS?

So, you are saying you got exposure from ODP...which you could've got anyway...correct? Like, you bought a car that you rented for 2 months first and still paid full price?

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So I was referring to da regarding 3 showcases

Not sure which ecnl club you were at but most just do regular ecnl
Events and local
Showcases

That said you did them
All after saying you saved money by not doing them

Exposed!!!

Your 1st wife must be so happy to be collecting your money and not having tomlisten tomyou drone on about stuff you make believe you know

So you didn't go to FL with ECNL over holidays? or AZ with ECNL? you didn't go to Seattle with ECNL? you didn't go to SD with ECNL (multiple times) and then tourneys in NJ?

You didn't go to VA multiple times with ECNL for non-ECNL tourneys like WAGS, Jeff Cup? You didn't go to NC for that non-ECNL tourney - early December multiple times (when college cup is playing)? You didn't go to MD for non-ECNL tourneys? Just as an example. We did as ECNL.

You didn't go to FL or SD with GDA?

I said I saved money by getting exposure in ODP. She was already committed when she did most of these.

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so you didn't go to fl with ecnl over holidays? Or az with ecnl? You didn't go to seattle with ecnl? You didn't go to sd with ecnl (multiple times) and then tourneys in nj?

You didn't go to va multiple times with ecnl for non-ecnl tourneys like wags, jeff cup? You didn't go to nc for that non-ecnl tourney - early december multiple times (when college cup is playing)? You didn't go to md for non-ecnl tourneys? Just as an example. We did as ecnl.

You didn't go to fl or sd with gda?

I said i saved money by getting exposure in odp. She was already committed when she did most of these.

but you still paid by doing those...right??? So how are you saving??