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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Trump has added 50% to our debt in two years. The debt was declining in the last few years of Obama's administration. He spent to save the economy. Trump spent to save himself $ and his kids on inheritance taxes, as well as keep his corporate buddies happy. The blip he got from the bill was short lived and benefited very few Americans. We will all be paying the price of his tax cut for years and years.
    This is a lie. Obama added between $7 to $ 9 TRILLION to the National Debt. That nearly doubled the National Debt. Trump has added a few Trillion. But with Trump, at least we have low unemployment, rising wages and a positive GDP. With Obama, nearly a flat line. QE which we will be paying for for a long time. All those billions wasted on Green Pipe Dreams like Solyndra, you get the picture.

    Obama was reducing the Budget Deficit the last few years , but at the same time was running up the Countries Credit card.

    His " corporate buddies" have increased wages, given out bonuses, increased investment and .....hired workers.

    Paying the " price" for the tax cut? People have more of their own money. What's the" price" ?

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      " a few trillion" Do you realize how absurd that sounds? We should be paying down our debt when the economy is strong so that if there is a crisis of some kind we're better able to pay for things like economic stimulus packages.

      "Economists say there are a number of risks associated with rising U.S. debt.

      It could divert investment from vital areas. Servicing an ever-growing debt, especially if interest rates rise significantly, will consume resources that could rob spending from sectors such as infrastructure, education, and basic research.

      It could shrink the U.S. global footprint. Without legislative action, interest on the debt and mandatory government programs, such as Medicare, will claim a growing piece of the budget pie, leaving fewer dollars for U.S. military, diplomatic, and humanitarian operations around the world.

      It could become a drag on the economy. Some experts argue that there is a tipping point beyond which large accumulations of government debt begin to slow growth. They posit that this could be a result of investors becoming more pessimistic about the economy as debt levels rise, which could rapidly drive up interest rates and thereby reduce private investment.

      It could precipitate a fiscal crisis. Many experts warn that if U.S. debt continues torise, investors will eventually lose confidence in Washington’s ability to right its fiscal ship and become unwilling to finance U.S. borrowing without much higher interest rates. If many investors begin fleeing to alternatives, it may become prohibitively expensive for Washington to attract new buyers of debt, resulting in even larger deficits and increased borrowing, or what is sometimes called a debt spiral. A fiscal crisis of this nature could necessitate sudden and economically painful spending cuts or tax increases.

      It could hamper the country’s ability to navigate future economic crises. In the view of some experts, massive debt accumulation could undermine U.S. global leadership by eroding Washington’s ability to respond to future crises. Another major financial crisis, like that of 2008–2009, could require new large-scale stimulus spending, a response that would be difficult given the U.S. debt load. It could also constrain the nation’s ability to mobilize for an unexpected military conflict, weaken its global aid commitments, or siphon funds from the national security budget. Finally, it could leave the country vulnerable to foreign governments, especially China, that hold large chunks of U.S. debt and could potentially use the threat of a sell-off as leverage."

      https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/national-debt-dilemma

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        This is a lie. Obama added between $7 to $ 9 TRILLION to the National Debt. That nearly doubled the National Debt. Trump has added a few Trillion. But with Trump, at least we have low unemployment, rising wages and a positive GDP. With Obama, nearly a flat line. QE which we will be paying for for a long time. All those billions wasted on Green Pipe Dreams like Solyndra, you get the picture.

        Obama was reducing the Budget Deficit the last few years , but at the same time was running up the Countries Credit card.

        His " corporate buddies" have increased wages, given out bonuses, increased investment and .....hired workers.

        Paying the " price" for the tax cut? People have more of their own money. What's the" price" ?
        Those who got the biggest benefit were the top 10%. Corporations largely used their savings to buyback shares, not invest in their businesses. Corporate buybacks only benefit shareholders; 50% or Americans own no stocks and 80% of US equities are held by 10% of the population. Here's a good piece that goes through the many promises

        https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...-consequences/

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          " a few trillion" Do you realize how absurd that sounds? We should be paying down our debt when the economy is strong so that if there is a crisis of some kind we're better able to pay for things like economic stimulus packages.

          "Economists say there are a number of risks associated with rising U.S. debt.

          It could divert investment from vital areas. Servicing an ever-growing debt, especially if interest rates rise significantly, will consume resources that could rob spending from sectors such as infrastructure, education, and basic research.

          It could shrink the U.S. global footprint. Without legislative action, interest on the debt and mandatory government programs, such as Medicare, will claim a growing piece of the budget pie, leaving fewer dollars for U.S. military, diplomatic, and humanitarian operations around the world.

          It could become a drag on the economy. Some experts argue that there is a tipping point beyond which large accumulations of government debt begin to slow growth. They posit that this could be a result of investors becoming more pessimistic about the economy as debt levels rise, which could rapidly drive up interest rates and thereby reduce private investment.

          It could precipitate a fiscal crisis. Many experts warn that if U.S. debt continues torise, investors will eventually lose confidence in Washington’s ability to right its fiscal ship and become unwilling to finance U.S. borrowing without much higher interest rates. If many investors begin fleeing to alternatives, it may become prohibitively expensive for Washington to attract new buyers of debt, resulting in even larger deficits and increased borrowing, or what is sometimes called a debt spiral. A fiscal crisis of this nature could necessitate sudden and economically painful spending cuts or tax increases.

          It could hamper the country’s ability to navigate future economic crises. In the view of some experts, massive debt accumulation could undermine U.S. global leadership by eroding Washington’s ability to respond to future crises. Another major financial crisis, like that of 2008–2009, could require new large-scale stimulus spending, a response that would be difficult given the U.S. debt load. It could also constrain the nation’s ability to mobilize for an unexpected military conflict, weaken its global aid commitments, or siphon funds from the national security budget. Finally, it could leave the country vulnerable to foreign governments, especially China, that hold large chunks of U.S. debt and could potentially use the threat of a sell-off as leverage."

          https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/national-debt-dilemma

          All well and good. Ponder the analogy between adding debt with positive economic gains against massive addition of debt with little to show.

          Add in the incredible amount added by changing the rules and putting 8 million people on Medicaid , supported by taxpayer dollars.When our largest problem for the future is funding entitlements. If yuo want to add up the damages of the policies of the Obama administration , to the damages done by Trump by adding debt, go ahead.

          Every time an illegal immigrant is let into this country, it costs taxpayers $ 750 day , day after day after day, to support them in this country. Yet, Dems don't want to stop it, encourage it , and have laid down the red carpet.

          You want to bear down and really start to address the National Debt? Stop illegal immigration and start sending them back where they came from.

          Wages will increase, crime will decrease and we move closer to being in the black financially.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Really ? They “REALLY do? I disagree . I’m a dem. You are completely absurd.

            Platform will head America straight to bottom ....

            That’s some very clumsy and unattractive writing . Plus you get facts wrong .

            Why I can’t read more than a sentence of yours .

            What’s your first language ?

            Geeze I really hope you are trying to be sarcastic. Because, that's a series of poorly-written sentence fragments right there....

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Those who got the biggest benefit were the top 10%. Corporations largely used their savings to buyback shares, not invest in their businesses. Corporate buybacks only benefit shareholders; 50% or Americans own no stocks and 80% of US equities are held by 10% of the population. Here's a good piece that goes through the many promises

              https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...-consequences/
              So what ? The top 10 % pay a huge amount of the actual DOLLARS collected. I'm middle class , and my overall tax bill went down. It is a case by case basis. It is, and alwasy is , about planning and positioning.

              You are generalizing about what businesses did. You have absolutely no clue regarding the financial decision made by the millions of businesses in the country. You can post all the charts you want, pure speculation.

              The Stock Market is not Main Street. More people are employed. Wages have increased. Inflation is in check. We might have rate hike the third quarter. Certainly the economy is not perfect, it never is. But it is certainly in a better position than it was under Obama.

              71 % of the Americans polled seem to think so. So what is so bad, so rotten, that would need to be changed? And what will Democrats propose to improve what we are seeing ? So far, I don;t see anything .

              Beyond wealth redistribution, breaking up businesses, increasing taxes on the " rich ". raising th eminimum wage to $ 15.00 and other proposed " solutions" , how will they better the economy over what we are seeing ?

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Geeze I really hope you are trying to be sarcastic. Because, that's a series of poorly-written sentence fragments right there....
                You can handle entire sentences ? <rimshot >

                😂

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                  Con trying to get lost in the weeds ...

                  Con ...as it gets close ...2020 will be about one thing ....a referendum on your boy if he manages to stay in office and out of prison that long

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Con trying to get lost in the weeds ...

                    Con ...as it gets close ...2020 will be about one thing ....a referendum on your boy if he manages to stay in office and out of prison that long
                    It will be a referendum regarding America's choice to continue to be the last great hope on earth, or to slide downhill to be a country of declining quality of life , run by those that demand allegiance and are in lockstep.

                    You could be an innocent child standing in Washington DC , and become an instant victim by your mere presence and looks. That's the future under the Democratic party.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Sounds like there is a LOT they need to hide
                      Nah, they just aren't going to play Nadler's game.

                      Plus Dems have already set an example as to how to react to Congressional investigations - RESIST.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Fox News legal analyst Alan Dershowitz bluntly dispatched with Rep. Devin Nunes‘ (R-CA) much-derided $250 million Twitter lawsuit, saying the congressman has “no case at all” in the suit against the platform and users like “Devin Nunes’ Mom.”

                        On Wednesday morning’s edition of Fox News’ America’s Newsroom, co-anchor Sandra Smith asked Dershowitz about the lawsuit, and about Donald Trump‘s support for it.

                        She began by asking Dershowitz if Nunes has “a strong case?”

                        “He has no case at all,” Dershowitz said, adding that “it is wrong from a political and ideological point of view. If you don’t like what Twitter is doing, create an alternate company. If you don’t like what Facebook or any of the others are doing, the American way is competition. Look, a lot of people thought that the Democrats controlled the media, and along came Fox. Now you have two sides, you can watch Fox and you can watch other programs. That is the answer. The answer is to create competing media.”
                        Nunes introduced a bill aimed at reducing frivolous lawsuits. File that under "Can't make this stuff up"

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                          Bwahahaha!

                          Yesterday the TMan spent all day yesterday posting about fashion designer Tom Ford and it was FAKE NEWS!!!

                          Bwahahaha!

                          You just can't make this stuff up!

                          TMan wrong AGAIN!

                          Bwahahaha!

                          No, Tom Ford Didn't Call Melania Trump a 'Glorified Escort' with 'Bad Taste in Men' — but a Viral Tweet Claimed Otherwise
                          https://people.com/politics/tom-ford...uote-not-true/

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            It will be a referendum regarding America's choice to continue to be the last great hope on earth, or to slide downhill to be a country of declining quality of life , run by those that demand allegiance and are in lockstep.

                            You could be an innocent child standing in Washington DC , and become an instant victim by your mere presence and looks. That's the future under the Democratic party.
                            Trump is the last great hope on earth?

                            You’ve been missing your dose of aricept lately OLD MA

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Bwahahaha!

                              Yesterday the TMan spent all day yesterday posting about fashion designer Tom Ford and it was FAKE NEWS!!!

                              Bwahahaha!

                              You just can't make this stuff up!

                              TMan wrong AGAIN!

                              Bwahahaha!

                              No, Tom Ford Didn't Call Melania Trump a 'Glorified Escort' with 'Bad Taste in Men' — but a Viral Tweet Claimed Otherwise
                              https://people.com/politics/tom-ford...uote-not-true/
                              Wrong ? How .

                              I say she is a glorified escort who is also a plagiarist. She also did marry a 🐷 man


                              Happy ? Make sure and “Be Best .”

                              Remind us ...her qualifications for the “Einstein “ visa she got was what ? BJ’s in limos and private planes .

                              Pics of the photo shoot on the plane were posted . Those interested can go find them. Me ? Not partial to the junky euro trash look she spotted in that one

                              “Be Best “ Boys and girls

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Bwahahaha!

                                Yesterday the TMan spent all day yesterday posting about fashion designer Tom Ford and it was FAKE NEWS!!!

                                Bwahahaha!

                                You just can't make this stuff up!

                                TMan wrong AGAIN!

                                Bwahahaha!

                                No, Tom Ford Didn't Call Melania Trump a 'Glorified Escort' with 'Bad Taste in Men' — but a Viral Tweet Claimed Otherwise
                                https://people.com/politics/tom-ford...uote-not-true/
                                People magazine ? Zero credibility . Do better . Be Best

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