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    How did this thread about Washington Timbers evolve into ECNL?


    Let's get back on track as only a few of the timbers members have any say in ECNL and those that do have already left for ECNL. And good luck to them and their girls the rest of us are still here and in the same crap as we have been for the last couple of years

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Is this the new anti ECNL angle now? All these clubs are creating is new opportunities to move soccer forward. They are looking bigger than just trying to control Oregon soccer like the Timbers.
      No angle, you asked why I cared so I responded honestly. If all you do is post "the latest angle" save us all some time. If we have read it once we don't need to hear it again and again and again and again...

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Then what is your beef with ECNL? The cost differential between a local traveling club team going to 3 quality showcases and Regionals and the ECNL team of the same age is less than $1,000.

        I am sympathetic to your point that pay to play is the scourge of American sports but in the words of Walter Cronkite "and that's the way it is" for ALL youth sports in America.

        If you want to complain about the cost of high level development soccer then aim your barbs where they belong and that would be at MLS and ODP who rake in millions yet charge for participation all the way down to the tryouts.

        Yeah MLS has a free or minimal cost DA for the 16's and up but that means that the clubs/league get FREE development paid for by the parents of the players and it only applies to the boys side of the ledger.

        The Olympic program and US Soccer could easily fund a much larger post tryout level of support for Boys and Girls with the tens of millions they are paid by the TV networks but that would mean cutting back the fat going to the "suits" running programs from their offices and actually working to accomplish their "mission" of developing the best players available. In other words it "ain't gonna happen"

        MLS likewise is growing revenues sufficient to provide DA down to U14.

        Yes pay to play means that over half of our best soccer players can't afford to move to the highest level of play and eventually drop out but that is true of all the sports where "clubs" have replaced the schools in the development process.

        Blaming ECNL for consolidating the better programs and organizing competitions is shooting the messenger not solving the problem!
        You totally missed my point, sorry the response must not have been on the list of prewritten responses you were given. Try reading a whole comment before you fly off the handle again.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          How did this thread about Washington Timbers evolve into ECNL?


          Let's get back on track as only a few of the timbers members have any say in ECNL and those that do have already left for ECNL. And good luck to them and their girls the rest of us are still here and in the same crap as we have been for the last couple of years
          That is where everything ends up eventually...ECNL folks seem to think every topic relates to them and don't realize that they only represent a very small sub portion of the Oregon Youth soccer population

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            That is where everything ends up eventually...ECNL folks seem to think every topic relates to them and don't realize that they only represent a very small sub portion of the Oregon Youth soccer population
            Small but extremely significant. So much so, in fact, that it's raised the ire of all the TA lemmings from GW on down to lowliest rec parent...

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Small but extremely significant. So much so, in fact, that it's raised the ire of all the TA lemmings from GW on down to lowliest rec parent...
              And created mad broke TA guy.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Small but extremely significant. So much so, in fact, that it's raised the ire of all the TA lemmings from GW on down to lowliest rec parent...
                Actually you are flattering yourself to think you are extremely significant because of reaction on this site…I would guess overall there are less than 100 people who post here. There would also be many less posts if not for the organized ECNL/THUSC post minders.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Actually you are flattering yourself to think you are extremely significant because of reaction on this site…I would guess overall there are less than 100 people who post here. There would also be many less posts if not for the organized ECNL/THUSC post minders.
                  If they weren't so significant there wouldn't be a dozen different threads on this forum, all started by TA lemmings trying to tear down instead of building up.

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                    Getting back to the topic that started this thread

                    I think the Washington timbers board should allow the new GM hire the DOC. Without that selection how can you expect the GM to run the club?

                    the problem that many clubs have is that the DOC's run the club and the GM is a glorified administrator with the Boards enabling the DOC to make decision without taking into account a larger longer term vision.

                    If the WT's are going to become a professionally run organization they need to start by empowering the GM to run ALL of the organization which includes deciding upon a development program and style of play and hiring the DOC's to implement that program and over see the teaching of the program at every level on every team.

                    BTW the name Washington Timbers is awfully arrogant when in reality they are the Vancouver Timbers!

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I think the Washington timbers board should allow the new GM hire the DOC. Without that selection how can you expect the GM to run the club?

                      the problem that many clubs have is that the DOC's run the club and the GM is a glorified administrator with the Boards enabling the DOC to make decision without taking into account a larger longer term vision.

                      If the WT's are going to become a professionally run organization they need to start by empowering the GM to run ALL of the organization which includes deciding upon a development program and style of play and hiring the DOC's to implement that program and over see the teaching of the program at every level on every team.

                      BTW the name Washington Timbers is awfully arrogant when in reality they are the Vancouver Timbers!
                      Columbia Premier Timbers was a much better name and filled the need for a name that included more than just the city of Vancouver.

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                        Whats a lemming?

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Whats a lemming?
                          Overused, stupid word used by the same person over and over and over and over and over......without merit.......over and over and over and over and over......

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I think the Washington timbers board should allow the new GM hire the DOC. Without that selection how can you expect the GM to run the club?

                            the problem that many clubs have is that the DOC's run the club and the GM is a glorified administrator with the Boards enabling the DOC to make decision without taking into account a larger longer term vision.

                            If the WT's are going to become a professionally run organization they need to start by empowering the GM to run ALL of the organization which includes deciding upon a development program and style of play and hiring the DOC's to implement that program and over see the teaching of the program at every level on every team.

                            BTW the name Washington Timbers is awfully arrogant when in reality they are the Vancouver Timbers!
                            First of all it looks like they are now hiring an Executive Director. Someone that is smart financially and can raise money for the club. That person doesn't need to know much about soccer.

                            According to what you think they need you want a DOC to come in and run the club. They already had a DOC run the club.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Whats a lemming?
                              Per Urban Dictionary:

                              "A member of the Timbers Alliance with no originality or voice of his own. One who speaks or repeats only what he has been told. A tool. A cretin."

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                First of all it looks like they are now hiring an Executive Director. Someone that is smart financially and can raise money for the club. That person doesn't need to know much about soccer.

                                According to what you think they need you want a DOC to come in and run the club. They already had a DOC run the club.
                                You need to read that post again. He/she is arguing for and end to the DOC running anything but the coaches. I took that they want the gm/ed to be the one to hold the doc accountable for implementing a club style.

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