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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Sorry, but while you are still whining and bitching about losing your kids spot on an ECNL team and moving on to "just another Florida soccer club", a half dozen committed players are getting ready to compete for that roster spot. Players that want to play in the most competitive girl's youth soccer league in the country. Players that do not let their parents politics on youth soccer hold them back!

    The coaches with these teams are just fine and probably more qualified to coach youth soccer than 90% of the youth coaches in Florida! The break up of OC last year is old news. The only people that still care are the people that left OC last year. They just hope OC is going to fail! Unfortunately for you, it is not going to fail. It is going to be successful and the intelligent and best soccer players in Orlando and surrounding areas will play ECNL at OC. You see bad performances by certain teams as failures while these prospective new players see it as an opportunity! In another year most parents will not even know, or care, about the split last year, and why should they? It just doesn't matter any longer!
    If it didn't matter, why did OCYS send it's lawyers after FKK? Why did they threaten FYSA? CDL?

    Results matter. The Pink Patch means less if your coaching and development are sub-par. the league knows this.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Sorry, but while you are still whining and bitching about losing your kids spot on an ECNL team and moving on to "just another Florida soccer club", a half dozen committed players are getting ready to compete for that roster spot. Players that want to play in the most competitive girl's youth soccer league in the country. Players that do not let their parents politics on youth soccer hold them back!

      The coaches with these teams are just fine and probably more qualified to coach youth soccer than 90% of the youth coaches in Florida! The break up of OC last year is old news. The only people that still care are the people that left OC last year. They just hope OC is going to fail! Unfortunately for you, it is not going to fail. It is going to be successful and the intelligent and best soccer players in Orlando and surrounding areas will play ECNL at OC. You see bad performances by certain teams as failures while these prospective new players see it as an opportunity! In another year most parents will not even know, or care, about the split last year, and why should they? It just doesn't matter any longer!
      how many more years will it take?

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        A loss is a loss and you are have a loser's mentality. You want to talk about how your players sucked less or who is actually competitive and showing potential in ECNL. More importantly, we are not quitting and taking our ball back to "community soccer" because we know ECNL is the best of the best and upstarts don't become champions overnight. We will do the work and keep improving. You are playing well below your level and crowing about winning CDL. What is next on your resume HM? Bazooka Champions 2014?
        You still can't read and comprehend can you. If you actually could you would know that I was only responding to one of your parents that was talking about how much better things are this year than last, and I was showing that it is not. They were saying that the games were more competitive. If you are saying a loss is a loss than you don't believe the crap that you have been saying about development. One loss is not the same as another and I showed that with goal differential. Last year 77 games played and they had a GD of -12, this year 68 games played with a -124 GD. Do you really think that a close game with a 1 goal loss is the same as getting beat 8-0. Those 600 coaches that you say are watching ECNL games are not seeing anything when a team is getting beat 8-0. They can actually get something from a 2-1 game and then the score for them doesn't matter. 8-0 means one team isn't even touching the ball and the other team isn't even playing to their potential. Neither team is benefitting from such a lopsided game. If they were in any other league you would say that they were in the wrong division and should drop down. Why is it any different in ECNL. You have teams playing well above their level and you talk about how great it is for them. You say so much crap on here you can't even keep track of it. Try reading next time.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          You still can't read and comprehend can you. If you actually could you would know that I was only responding to one of your parents that was talking about how much better things are this year than last, and I was showing that it is not. They were saying that the games were more competitive. If you are saying a loss is a loss than you don't believe the crap that you have been saying about development. One loss is not the same as another and I showed that with goal differential. Last year 77 games played and they had a GD of -12, this year 68 games played with a -124 GD. Do you really think that a close game with a 1 goal loss is the same as getting beat 8-0. Those 600 coaches that you say are watching ECNL games are not seeing anything when a team is getting beat 8-0. They can actually get something from a 2-1 game and then the score for them doesn't matter. 8-0 means one team isn't even touching the ball and the other team isn't even playing to their potential. Neither team is benefitting from such a lopsided game. If they were in any other league you would say that they were in the wrong division and should drop down. Why is it any different in ECNL. You have teams playing well above their level and you talk about how great it is for them. You say so much crap on here you can't even keep track of it. Try reading next time.
          How many good ecnl teams enjoy traveling all the way to Sanford to beat the Purple 8-0? Not much development for those kids.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            How many good ecnl teams enjoy traveling all the way to Sanford to beat the Purple 8-0? Not much development for those kids.
            OC has nothing to fear from FKK or any others not in ECNL. It doesn't really matter what we have to say her on TS. What really matters is what the other ECNL teams are telling ECNL about their non-competitive games with OC. The damage has already been done. OC can justify all they want her on TS and FKK can make their point all day her on TS, however the real rubber hits the road when clubs complain to ECNL that they don't want to travel to OC for non-competative games and that there are the facts jack. Complaints have already been placed and ECNL has already taken note..... That simple. You are on borrowed time OC.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              OC has nothing to fear from FKK or any others not in ECNL. It doesn't really matter what we have to say her on TS. What really matters is what the other ECNL teams are telling ECNL about their non-competitive games with OC. The damage has already been done. OC can justify all they want her on TS and FKK can make their point all day her on TS, however the real rubber hits the road when clubs complain to ECNL that they don't want to travel to OC for non-competative games and that there are the facts jack. Complaints have already been placed and ECNL has already taken note..... That simple. You are on borrowed time OC.
              The fact is until all players come together the level will not be good enough. FCA, OC and FKK alone don't have the talent to compete at the highest level which was seen last year with the players who are now at FKK. I am sure league is looking closely to see what OC will produce for next season. I would be careful with your limited facts being they are biased.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Sorry, but while you are still whining and bitching about losing your kids spot on an ECNL team and moving on to "just another Florida soccer club", a half dozen committed players are getting ready to compete for that roster spot. Players that want to play in the most competitive girl's youth soccer league in the country. Players that do not let their parents politics on youth soccer hold them back!

                The coaches with these teams are just fine and probably more qualified to coach youth soccer than 90% of the youth coaches in Florida! The break up of OC last year is old news. The only people that still care are the people that left OC last year. They just hope OC is going to fail! Unfortunately for you, it is not going to fail. It is going to be successful and the intelligent and best soccer players in Orlando and surrounding areas will play ECNL at OC. You see bad performances by certain teams as failures while these prospective new players see it as an opportunity! In another year most parents will not even know, or care, about the split last year, and why should they? It just doesn't matter any longer!
                you can read your defensiveness in your response. I'd swear you were a coach or employee of OC

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The fact is until all players come together the level will not be good enough. FCA, OC and FKK alone don't have the talent to compete at the highest level which was seen last year with the players who are now at FKK. I am sure league is looking closely to see what OC will produce for next season. I would be careful with your limited facts being they are biased.
                  And if OC lost ECNL who says it would stay in Orlando. I'd say it's more likely ECNL would go to another area of the state. Then all the orlando girls would have to drive if they were interested, cut off your nose to spite your face.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    you can continue to say "CDL" but we know you are really trying to ignore the quality teams/clubs playing RPL, FSPL, NPL, etc., because you know those teams dominate your own club of Ecnl players. this club is not developing players as it should be. perhaps in other areas of our country ecnl does work, but here in florida it is still struggling. continue to say it will... but at whose expense? what girls can afford to sit in a program year in and year out that isn't working? you sound like a coach preaching to your teams not to abandon the program... (perhaps as we see tryouts breeching over the horizon...)
                    Oh please elaborate on which FKK teams are RPL, FSPL and NPL? That is what we were talking about - FKK. What elite league are they playing in currently?

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      it's been two years. Two lost years of development. How many more years should players have to sacrifice while the English Directorship tries to get its act together?

                      2 more years? three more?
                      Again with the FKK vs. OCYS banter. Can't you guys keep it on your own thread. We are talking about ECNL and last time I checked there was another ECNL club in Florida plus some pretty good clubs waiting in the wings. You guys need to get a room and slug it out.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Sorry, but while you are still whining and bitching about losing your kids spot on an ECNL team and moving on to "just another Florida soccer club", a half dozen committed players are getting ready to compete for that roster spot. Players that want to play in the most competitive girl's youth soccer league in the country. Players that do not let their parents politics on youth soccer hold them back!

                        The coaches with these teams are just fine and probably more qualified to coach youth soccer than 90% of the youth coaches in Florida! The break up of OC last year is old news. The only people that still care are the people that left OC last year. They just hope OC is going to fail! Unfortunately for you, it is not going to fail. It is going to be successful and the intelligent and best soccer players in Orlando and surrounding areas will play ECNL at OC. You see bad performances by certain teams as failures while these prospective new players see it as an opportunity! In another year most parents will not even know, or care, about the split last year, and why should they? It just doesn't matter any longer!
                        A lot of wisdom here. Most soccer teams run on a 4-year cycle meaning they stay on top or bottom for 4-years at a team. Basically the U15-18 teams cycle. This pushes down to the lower age teams as younger siblings usually play for the same club. Also, teens tend to follow the best players and coaches and those tend to cycle through every 4-years. So yes, in two-years nobody will know or care about the OC - FKK split. IMHO, it could not happen soon enough!

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You still can't read and comprehend can you. If you actually could you would know that I was only responding to one of your parents that was talking about how much better things are this year than last, and I was showing that it is not. They were saying that the games were more competitive. If you are saying a loss is a loss than you don't believe the crap that you have been saying about development. One loss is not the same as another and I showed that with goal differential. Last year 77 games played and they had a GD of -12, this year 68 games played with a -124 GD. Do you really think that a close game with a 1 goal loss is the same as getting beat 8-0. Those 600 coaches that you say are watching ECNL games are not seeing anything when a team is getting beat 8-0. They can actually get something from a 2-1 game and then the score for them doesn't matter. 8-0 means one team isn't even touching the ball and the other team isn't even playing to their potential. Neither team is benefitting from such a lopsided game. If they were in any other league you would say that they were in the wrong division and should drop down. Why is it any different in ECNL. You have teams playing well above their level and you talk about how great it is for them. You say so much crap on here you can't even keep track of it. Try reading next time.
                          Yes, I am saying aggregate goal differential means nothing. Go ahead and pan it. It was your excuse last year when your girls were losing all their games so it might as well be your justification this year for pulling ECNL from OC. If it is sooo bad, why isn't ECNL addressing the issue. You saw the post of the article on no teams losing their ECNL status. Did you really think that ECNL was going to pull their patch from OC because of goal differential when there are much worse clubs and goal differentials in the league and none of those teams have been pulled. Let me say that again. No ECNL team has lost their affiliation...ever. Maybe if you read, you would understand.

                          Goal differential is for stat geek parents that are trying to justify why they always lose. "Yeah but we only lost by a total of 12 goals all year!" You still did not have what it took to finish games. You still lost and you are still losers. Stay classy FKK.

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                            Bottom line is that ECNL, if Florida, right now, sucks. OC and WFF would not likely not make the top 8 teams in state.

                            So you don't get upset, Georgia (Atlanta for all intends and purposes) is the same.Their top teams are playing R3PL not ECNL

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                              It doesn't matter does it, I can my daughter will be committed within the next week and it is because of ECNL. bottom line those coaches would not have been at any other club games or tournaments. Thank you ECNL

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Bottom line is that ECNL, if Florida, right now, sucks. OC and WFF would not likely not make the top 8 teams in state.

                                So you don't get upset, Georgia (Atlanta for all intends and purposes) is the same.Their top teams are playing R3PL not ECNL
                                Hahahahahaha.

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