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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI am not against USSDA, but really there's 2 worlds of DA: MLS and everyone else. The MLS Academies are so far ahead in terms of being a "pro academy" that the comparison is similar to DA vs. club. Galaxy has the first team mentoring the academy players, and most players attend class right there at Stub Hub. Philly Union, Dallas, and a couple others also have their players all day, living together and going to the same school. DC United now have the online school requirement for its players so they have more flexible training hours so they have more exposure to first team coaches and training experience. They also have about 6 levels of teams to move players through, all being coached in the same method as determined by the academy director and in line with the first team. An by first team, I mean the MLS team, not the top DA team.
Before there's all the responses about, "Well Chargers DA beat X MLS Academy team..." That doesn't matter to any of the MLS Academies, and they prove it every week. Their top players aren't staying on their academy teams, they're moved to the PDL, USL, or MLS team. Galaxy, Dallas, and many other MLS teams have signed multiple players from the academy instead of keeping them on a u16 or u18 DA team to win some DA league game or tournament.
And the best player on that TBU National Champ team last year stayed and is probably still the best player.
The DA is fine, provides a more professional training schedule than almost every club system, but it's not the only way, and there's certainly a difference in the level of professionalism between DA clubs. Heck, look at the mess OC made of their academy, there's even quite a difference between levels within MLS.
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First off I didn’t realize that one kid stood out on that team more than 2-3 others? Top 3 are very close.
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I think the Chargers DA team could beat that TBU team. No big deal, but in the overall picture, the non-MLS DA is really not a big deal either. By the way, the u17 USMNT people are looking at some of those TBU players, and some get PDL time also. Maybe some Chargers guys are getting trials also, I don't know. Just as some Chargers are playing on national teams and some have eventually made pro. I can only think of 2, but maybe there's some more.
There's also plenty of players who try Chargers DA for a couple seasons, leave, and are fine. They're successful for their level, and sometimes play at a higher level after DA than many players who stay with DA. Sometimes they don't like DA, sometimes they don't like Chargers, sometimes they would rather play club & high school. I don't know of any of those guys that went pro, but they're playing D1 soccer just like some guys that stay in DA.
Comparing Chargers DA and another successful club team is really useless. They're not competing for the same titles, nor even have the same goals as a team. More players from Chargers DA will play at another level, but there's plenty of club guys that will play at the same exact level. Just as a guy who leaves Chelsea academy can make it at another smaller club and end up a much better player than his old academy teammates.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think the Chargers DA team could beat that TBU team. No big deal, but in the overall picture, the non-MLS DA is really not a big deal either. By the way, the u17 USMNT people are looking at some of those TBU players, and some get PDL time also. Maybe some Chargers guys are getting trials also, I don't know. Just as some Chargers are playing on national teams and some have eventually made pro. I can only think of 2, but maybe there's some more.
There's also plenty of players who try Chargers DA for a couple seasons, leave, and are fine. They're successful for their level, and sometimes play at a higher level after DA than many players who stay with DA. Sometimes they don't like DA, sometimes they don't like Chargers, sometimes they would rather play club & high school. I don't know of any of those guys that went pro, but they're playing D1 soccer just like some guys that stay in DA.
Comparing Chargers DA and another successful club team is really useless. They're not competing for the same titles, nor even have the same goals as a team. More players from Chargers DA will play at another level, but there's plenty of club guys that will play at the same exact level. Just as a guy who leaves Chelsea academy can make it at another smaller club and end up a much better player than his old academy teammates.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFirst off I didn’t realize that one kid stood out on that team more than 2-3 others? Top 3 are very close.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo players on that team stood out. There is only one kid on that team that has a scholarship and it's to a low level D1 school. Welcome to the bench for 4 years kid. No national team pool players with just average talent. They play well as a team but not even close to one pro player out there. Not special at all. Like watching girls soccer compared to the DA.
1 player to Dartmouth
1 Player to UNCW
1 player to UNF
and several more players with D1 offers.
Compared to Chargers DA that is much better...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostActually, so far:
1 player to Dartmouth
1 Player to UNCW
1 player to UNF
and several more players with D1 offers.
Compared to Chargers DA that is much better...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostReally, is that what you think? Those are all juggernaut soccer schools. Well done. You win, your right, you are much better than the Chargers DA.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNot in your wettest dream. I asked that specific question to the parents of the players that came over from that TBU team to the DA and they said that while there were one or two field players that could have made the DA roster, that stayed at TBU, the level of play and competition was much much higher at the DA level. They said the TBU national Championship team would lose by about 4 or 5 goals to the Chargers DA team. They stated that the speed and physicality of the DA level was just much higher, which is the way it should be, don't you think?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLest schedule a game. Oh yeah, DAvwould never do this of fear of getting beat. I mention the LEG AZ state championship U-18 team crushing the Orlando City Academy team. Orlando City was the one of the top DA teams last year.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy would we do that when we would have a tougher match against our U15 team. It is about level of play your kid and his team, do not have it. Sorry.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostKnow both teams and they follow a pretty familiar theme. If you combined them, the top five or six players would come from CLW (of course we know a few of them were developed at TBU...but I digress) and after that the roster would be weighted more with TBU players. The best five or six players at most DAs are clearly better than top club players but when you start looking at 6-18 on a DA roster there is not much of a difference. MLS clubs, in general, are deeper we just haven't seen that in Florida....particularly with this age group. Show me a DA player getting national or even regional pool invites, pursued by high D1 programs, and getting 80+ minutes every game....just don't lump your kid in there because he has a DA patch on the jersey.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostKnow both teams and they follow a pretty familiar theme. If you combined them, the top five or six players would come from CLW (of course we know a few of them were developed at TBU...but I digress) and after that the roster would be weighted more with TBU players. The best five or six players at most DAs are clearly better than top club players but when you start looking at 6-18 on a DA roster there is not much of a difference. MLS clubs, in general, are deeper we just haven't seen that in Florida....particularly with this age group. Show me a DA player getting national or even regional pool invites, pursued by high D1 programs, and getting 80+ minutes every game....just don't lump your kid in there because he has a DA patch on the jersey.
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Chargers DA program is one of the worst in the country. TBU had 2 teams reach Nationals, Chargers teams couldn't even make it out of the first round of State Cup.
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