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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou're correct. Not Brevard, should have said Coral Estates.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt sounds good.
But, my kid's team made the State Cup round of 16 this year and sounds like they are not guaranteed a spot in this. They just had tryouts and represented as playing in the FSPL next year. Now it doesn't sound like that is guaranteed. Some of the big name clubs were knocked out in the first and second rounds, but played in FSPL last year. I wonder if they will have the edge over our club.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMaking round of 16 shouldn't qualify anyone for anything. I'm not being rude. It's pretty easy to accomplish making the round of 16. The good teams reveal themselves passed the round of 16. Think of it is as the first tier filter.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think this is a great thing too. But after that I have to really disagree with you. I have to respectfully say that anyone who says something like this... "Clubs need to quit playing the league game suggesting ECNL, FPL and FSPL is any different or ranking them. The equality of play is the same. No better or worse. Look at State Cup results" really has not seen the higher levels of play. I have watched a ton of games in ECNL, FPL, FSPL and GDA.
I believe that the top 1-2 teams in each league (in each Region) could probably play competitively with each other in each age group. Where the huge drop in level of play is most obvious is in each league's teams that are ranked say, 4-10. Usually, (not always) when you have #1 play a #7 in ECNL you still end up with a result like 2-0 or 1-1, etc.
In our experience, usually, (not always) when you have #1 play a #7 in NPL, FSPL, etc. you end up with a result like 5-0 or 4-1, etc. because the of the dropoff in the strength of the teams in that league and region.
It is even more obvious when you go to the showcases like Jeff Cup or CASL where teams from these various leagues compete. They work hard to not schedule a #2 ECNL with a #6 NPL because it would almost certainly be a result like 5-0, etc.
And my point is not bash any league - they all have their role but nobody should confuse that fact that the level of play is the same across all of them.
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Its complete BS and Jill and Dale ought to resign immediately. Now the top teams in the state have to play the other Florida scrubs in FSPL instead of getting competitive games against the NC, SC, and GA teams.
What a weak response to DA, GDA, and ECNL encroachment.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNobody on this forum are thinking holistically top to bottom. The problem with this FYSA fiasco is that the top teams already play Region iii and in order to make FSPL relevant and make fysa money, FYSA let region iii gut Florida teams from competitive SRPL games completely.
Its complete BS and Jill and Dale ought to resign immediately. Now the top teams in the state have to play the other Florida scrubs in FSPL instead of getting competitive games against the NC, SC, and GA teams.
What a weak response to DA, GDA, and ECNL encroachment.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThat is Ok, as I said not really relevant to your point. But it is is still instructive. I am always quick to defend Brevard Beachside because there is a strong bias against teams from small clubs. It is always assumed they are not good because you never heard of the club or they because they don't have good teams at other ages (not saying you are guilty of that) The point being what someone else mentioned, which is that FSPL is the only top league that historically grants access based on merit of the team rather than strength or size of the club. The other unintentional point is regarding lack of parity in the league compared to other top leagues. Someone had mentioned FSPl only had 2-3 good teams in each age category and those 2-3 teams blow out everyone else. At least in U15 boys that was not the case last year. The top 7 teams in FSPL U15 last year were all capable of beating each other. Coral estates was actually one of Brevard's three loses and by the greatest margin (2). Ther is just no way of making admission flawless. The other thing not mentioned is how much teams change from year to year. The bottom team in U15 FSPl had absolutely no business being in the league. I did not research it, but can only assume they gained admission based upon the previous year, but broke up in off season and came in with a completely different team. How do you solve for that? Is it possible to require some roster continuity prior to acceptance? These eight spots will be really coveted especially by small clubs without access to other leagues. Crime to give a spot to a team under what amounts to false pretenses.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNobody on this forum are thinking holistically top to bottom. The problem with this FYSA fiasco is that the top teams already play Region iii and in order to make FSPL relevant and make fysa money, FYSA let region iii gut Florida teams from competitive SRPL games completely.
Its complete BS and Jill and Dale ought to resign immediately. Now the top teams in the state have to play the other Florida scrubs in FSPL instead of getting competitive games against the NC, SC, and GA teams.
What a weak response to DA, GDA, and ECNL encroachment.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNot necessarily disputing the points you are trying to make, but should make sure your examples are accurate. U15 Brevard lost in the final8 of state cup. They only lost 2 games in entire State Cup tournament. Round 2 to Weston and final8 game to Wellington (who they beat in FSPL). In FSPL Brevard lost total of 3 games. two by 1 goal and one by 2 goals. Hopefully they do deserve to get back in to FSPL.
They dont deserve to be in anything other than in their local beach soccer league. I hope they don't get in and bigger clubs get in. Clubs that can put in teams at every age group.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMy kid played R3PL and the competition sucked. The trick was that players got excited to travel out of state to play matches. Then when the game began it was a true waste of time and money. The girls never complained much because they won a game and was able to travel and stay in a hotel and feel bigger than life. The whole while I am just throwing money down a bottomless drain. At least travel will be less time consuming but still expensive unless we can come back the same day.
Competition was OK but nothing great. Refs sucked as much as they suck here and not one college coach or assistant coach.
Just a waste of money.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThey dont deserve to be in anything other than in their local beach soccer league. I hope they don't get in and bigger clubs get in. Clubs that can put in teams at every age group.
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