Realities of club soccer, would you do something different?

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While 1/3 of the FSU soccer team is from other countries.

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How do other Florida college womens soccer rosters compare?

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Why must they ensure that? Please explain real benefit of admitting anyone other the than the brightest? If the top 3000 applying happen to be African American or any minority, then bring them in. If not, FSU or UCF or fine plan B and plan C schools.

FSU, UCF, USF, UF and other Florida public universities are each trying to recruit the top Florida black students.

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UF has 30 players on the roster with 3 international, 17 from Florida, and 10 from out of state.

State schools can offer more in state players less scholarship %, because a lot of the girls will qualify for Bright Futures and help offset the students financial burden. Frees up more scholarship money for out of state / international players. Also, leads to larger rosters...typically in the neighborhood of 30.

Surprised that FSU’s roster is only at 24, but maybe I shouldn’t be seeing they are almost certainly using big scholarship dollars on those international and out of state students.

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State schools can offer more in state players less scholarship %, because a lot of the girls will qualify for Bright Futures and help offset the students financial burden. Frees up more scholarship money for out of state / international players. Also, leads to larger rosters...typically in the neighborhood of 30.

Surprised that FSU’s roster is only at 24, but maybe I shouldn’t be seeing they are almost certainly using big scholarship dollars on those international and out of state students.

Friday FSU #3 plays UF.

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"As we become more selective and become higher-ranked, we don’t want to lose the soul of the university — that it’s a university intended, as all public universities are, for all people," President Kent Fuchs said.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/educat...rdue_171057831

So in other words, there is no good reason other than satisfying you and your like minded rabble. In the end, the best should be admitted for their superior effort, intellect and potential contribution to society and the world. Any other reason is just an excuse to give the mediocre the opportunity to fail in a competitive academic arena. Race should have nothing to do with it. Society tries to force feed the system due to some ill-conceived notion of fair play. Merit, not skin color should be the deciding factor. You want soul? Buy some Motown records.

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So in other words, there is no good reason other than satisfying you and your like minded rabble. In the end, the best should be admitted for their superior effort, intellect and potential contribution to society and the world. Any other reason is just an excuse to give the mediocre the opportunity to fail in a competitive academic arena. Race should have nothing to do with it. Society tries to force feed the system due to some ill-conceived notion of fair play. Merit, not skin color should be the deciding factor. You want soul? Buy some Motown records.

You think the Asian students can win a Supreme Court case against Harvard?

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'Florida’s ban on race-based admissions, plus UF’s rising ranks and more competitive applicant pool, can make the goal of diversity more difficult. UF has to ensure that it’s not losing students of color to other top schools — especially in states with more need-based aid.

Student body president Ian Green, who is black, has launched Bridges, an initiative with UF admissions that reaches into Florida high schools to give underrepresented students academic support and help visiting campus.

UF also offers resources like the Machen Florida Opportunity Scholars Program, which each year supports 350 low-income, first-generation students.'

These supports and scholarships are helping attract more low income students to attend UF.

Let me let you in on the university system’s ability to still enroll people with less than their desired SAT and GPA. They admit them to a spring class so they don’t have to count them or to their online college so they don’t count them in the admission numbers. Admission numbers for rankings are just what you admit for the fall class. These unversities want numbers, and their name brand recognition allows them to offer alternative admissions so they don’t count. Students want in so bad to a few of these universities that they will take anything to get in so they can say they are attending these name brand institution. Many don’t make it and it’s ok, because they don’t count against the university retention or graduation numbers.

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You think the Asian students can win a Supreme Court case against Harvard?

not the poster...Harvard's position is that non quantifiable attributes are often times the difference makers between admittance and rejection. A perfect student on paper may have zero personality, or do little else beside just study. That isn't who they want. They have tens of thousands of near perfect students to chose from. The students would have to prove a deliberate system of discrimination against them as a race, something I think is going to be difficult to do.

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Let me let you in on the university system’s ability to still enroll people with less than their desired SAT and GPA. They admit them to a spring class so they don’t have to count them or to their online college so they don’t count them in the admission numbers. Admission numbers for rankings are just what you admit for the fall class. These unversities want numbers, and their name brand recognition allows them to offer alternative admissions so they don’t count. Students want in so bad to a few of these universities that they will take anything to get in so they can say they are attending these name brand institution. Many don’t make it and it’s ok, because they don’t count against the university retention or graduation numbers.

The summer early enrolled are counted in with the fall numbers. But yes the admission numbers are all about the university looking good "on paper". FSU can take in 48,000 applications using the new Coalition Application process and admit every single student who applied with a 1350 SAT/29 ACT and 4.3 or above. If a few of them accept the offer or not it doesn't matter because it will report all of those students it admitted and their mean scores as its freshmen admittance class. That means that if a student applies to many colleges and gets into them all, then all of the colleges are reporting the same students into their freshmen admittance mean scores.

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not the poster...Harvard's position is that non quantifiable attributes are often times the difference makers between admittance and rejection. A perfect student on paper may have zero personality, or do little else beside just study. That isn't who they want. They have tens of thousands of near perfect students to chose from. The students would have to prove a deliberate system of discrimination against them as a race, something I think is going to be difficult to do.

This is asking for students to lie on their applications. UF and FSU will never check to see proof if a student is working 30 hours at the local market or is president of the national honor society. Students are fluffing up their applications to look good on paper. The humble, honest, hard working students are paying the price of not getting admitted because they look like boring students who can never account to any great leader. Also isn't college a place for students to bloom and grow into leaders? Now they have to be the superhuman high school student with the non qualifiable attributes to get admitted.

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not the poster...Harvard's position is that non quantifiable attributes are often times the difference makers between admittance and rejection. A perfect student on paper may have zero personality, or do little else beside just study. That isn't who they want. They have tens of thousands of near perfect students to chose from. The students would have to prove a deliberate system of discrimination against them as a race, something I think is going to be difficult to do.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...st-affirmative from August 30, 2018
"During the CBS Evening News, legal correspondent Jan Crawford treated the case with all the seriousness that it deserved. “In a 40-page legal brief, the Justice Department said Harvard ‘engages in unlawful racial balancing’ when selecting its incoming classes, siding with Asian-American students who are suing the university,” she informed viewers.

While Harvard denied the allegations, the Justice Department thought otherwise. “’Harvard's race-based admissions process significantly disadvantages Asian-American applicants,’” Crawford read from the report. “’[C]ompared to applicants of other racial groups.’”

“The filing was widely expected as the Justice Department targets affirmative action in college admissions on multiple fronts. Last month it reversed Obama-era guidelines that encouraged schools to consider race in college admissions,” she continued." ,,,...

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This is asking for students to lie on their applications. UF and FSU will never check to see proof if a student is working 30 hours at the local market or is president of the national honor society. Students are fluffing up their applications to look good on paper. The humble, honest, hard working students are paying the price of not getting admitted because they look like boring students who can never account to any great leader. Also isn't college a place for students to bloom and grow into leaders? Now they have to be the superhuman high school student with the non qualifiable attributes to get admitted.

Forget about reading the essay. If a school wants to offer a spot to 1000 minorities, the computer will sort the top 1000 minorities regardless of the mean scores. That is how I see it.

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Racial diversity percentage prove nothing except maybe that fewer African American apply to these schools. File a law suit like the Asian did against Harvard and see where it gets you. If you have the grades/scores to get in, the universities will be tripping over each other to give you merit awards for tuition. Quit being sniveling idiot and work for it.

Any black student near the mean that UF is looking for, could most likely be admitted to an even better school on scholarship. Don't you think? 1400 SAT? give me a break Gainsville Florida.

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Forget about reading the essay. If a school wants to offer a spot to 1000 minorities, the computer will sort the top 1000 minorities regardless of the mean scores. That is how I see it.

Agree. But to get a certain percentage of a 'racial group' to actually attend the university they may have to put out many more offers (3,000) if they want 1,000. The universities may have to market them and offer them merit money or they will attend one that does find a way to attract them.