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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostA zippo?! Those are nice lighters!
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I did it for many years, travel and then two clubs. One club was a ton of work because I did all the scheduling, arranging hotel rooms for tournaments, team dinners, everything. I volunteered because no one else would do it. The coach was a fantastic coach and very nice guy but organizationally clueless. It was a good amount of work but we had our fee reduced by half. The coach was super appreciative but some of the parents were total diks, thought I was kissing the coach's behind when I really hardly talked to the guy and it was all business. Yes my kid played all the time but he was also one of the top two players on the team.
At the next club ( a move up from #1) my only job was to send an occasional team email and arrange team activities with no discount. The club had a staff person who did all the scheduling, hotels, uniforms etc. I absolutely preferred the later - not because there was basically no work but because no parent was under pressure by parents, no whisper campaigns or politics and overall is much more professional. I think when you rely heavily on parents it is easy for a parent manager to manipulate, play politics and cause trouble.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI did it for many years, travel and then two clubs. One club was a ton of work because I did all the scheduling, arranging hotel rooms for tournaments, team dinners, everything. I volunteered because no one else would do it. The coach was a fantastic coach and very nice guy but organizationally clueless. It was a good amount of work but we had our fee reduced by half. The coach was super appreciative but some of the parents were total diks, thought I was kissing the coach's behind when I really hardly talked to the guy and it was all business. Yes my kid played all the time but he was also one of the top two players on the team.
At the next club ( a move up from #1) my only job was to send an occasional team email and arrange team activities with no discount. The club had a staff person who did all the scheduling, hotels, uniforms etc. I absolutely preferred the later - not because there was basically no work but because no parent was under pressure by parents, no whisper campaigns or politics and overall is much more professional. I think when you rely heavily on parents it is easy for a parent manager to manipulate, play politics and cause trouble.
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My wife and I are handling it this year and honestly, it's virtually no work. Maybe we are doing it wrong....
We've been asked to do one thing so far, which is to organize one fundraising event. That's it.
I've sent out a couple of communications on our own about weather, travel, hotels, etc. but none of it is expected and none of it was asked of us by our club or coach.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI did it for many years, travel and then two clubs. One club was a ton of work because I did all the scheduling, arranging hotel rooms for tournaments, team dinners, everything. I volunteered because no one else would do it. The coach was a fantastic coach and very nice guy but organizationally clueless. It was a good amount of work but we had our fee reduced by half. The coach was super appreciative but some of the parents were total diks, thought I was kissing the coach's behind when I really hardly talked to the guy and it was all business. Yes my kid played all the time but he was also one of the top two players on the team.
At the next club ( a move up from #1) my only job was to send an occasional team email and arrange team activities with no discount. The club had a staff person who did all the scheduling, hotels, uniforms etc. I absolutely preferred the later - not because there was basically no work but because no parent was under pressure by parents, no whisper campaigns or politics and overall is much more professional. I think when you rely heavily on parents it is easy for a parent manager to manipulate, play politics and cause trouble.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMy experience was much closer to the case in your 1st paragraph, except I wasn't compensated, and I was asked to be manager, but was happy to do it. My work included all team communications by emails or group text at tournaments, hotel arrangements (selection of and managing parents' room requests), team dinners, team camps (all the drama of room assignments), orders for team uniforms, got soccer updates, club website updates, player registration, passcards (ECNL), tryouts, collection of monies for various things. Parents often assumed I had some influence on the coach, but definitely not the case. I wouldn't have attempted any "influence" but also know it wouldn't have been tolerated. I think the latter example you provide would be much more reasonable.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAs the coach, I always gave a small gift to my team managers for the holidays, exclusive of any breaks by the club
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMy son has played at two well known clubs and neither has used parent managers.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWe've had both and I definitely prefer the clubs that don't have parent managers. More professional, better communication, fewer mistakes, a lot less drama and politics.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAnd where is this huge staff of non parent managers coming from? Pretty sure the big 3 on the girls side (NEFC, Stars and SSS) all use parent managers. Ours happens to be awesome!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWe've had both and I definitely prefer the clubs that don't have parent managers. More professional, better communication, fewer mistakes, a lot less drama and politics.
I wouldn't want the coach fluffing it off to the manager...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe clubs my son play/played for each had one person who was the manager of every team in the club, as well as having other administrative duties.
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