Originally posted by Unregistered
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No, I think you are quite wrong in this. Our athletic ability and organization on defense is the only thing that has allowed us to reach the semis of this tournament and round of 16 at the world cup. What we lack is the technical skill and tactical awareness that the top teams have. They have the technical confidence with the ball to control it out of very tight spaces under extreme pressure. We tend to not have the technical confidence, unless our opponent is tired and gives us that little bit of extra space and we tend to turn it over and kick long balls in order to relieve the pressure. Yes, it is true that in the US we have many competing sports for elite level athletic ability, but our country is enormous. We have 20x's the population than Chile, for example. I have seen many kids just in my area that play soccer with elite athletic ability, but do not possess an understanding of the game or the touch on the ball. Guess what, you will never here about any of those kids because they will not even be able to play college ball. Those kids did not grow up with a soccer ball at their feet, playing 5 hours a day, every day, like the other elite athletes in a place like Chile. -
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Its so upsetting, The US needs to recognize talent at a young age regardless of size and develop, develop, develop!!! SIZE DOES NOT MATTER and why should it? Argentina made the US look like a high school team. That's Crazy!Comment
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Just because you have no technique does not make you athletic. If you think we were more athletic than Argentina your lost. Yedlin is fast not quick. Most top midfielders and players are quick. We don't have that except maybe Nagbe and Pulisic. Others lateral movement is horrible.Comment
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Development is the answer
Bingo! Size is irrelevant with out skills and that is what the USMNT is missing. Did you notice the difference on the first touch between the two teams? Regardles if they were just receiving or passing on a one touch, the first one was usually too long and the second was either too hard, too soft, wrong direction or plain and simple the wrong choice.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
That is something that need to be thought at an early age and practiced until the day you stop playing.Comment
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With the sports related work-life of a professional athlete being relatively short, with MLS minimum yearly pay being $50,000.00 and with MLB yearly minimum pay being $500,000.00, do you blame our best athletes for concentrating on sports other than soccer?Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Touch and soccer sense was the most glaring difference between Argentina and USA.
So how do we develop players with better touch? Practice. Practice. Practice.
Seriously, if you offer an average 10 year old boy/girl the option of practicing 4-5 times a week for 1-2 hours a day then they will choose baseball,and basketball, and possibly even football over soccer. Agreed that it takes hours and hours of practice to perfect that touch. Our youth, with a few exceptions. have too many other leisure choices including other sports. I think we can compete as a top 20 program for the forseeable future based on our athleticism, but breaking into the top 10 could take another 10-15 years, if ever,Comment
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OK dump arse you've been proved wrong. Not corrected.Untill we can understand that big and fast is useless against real talent then we will always be laughed at from out side the US.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Big and fast that's it nothing else.It certainly showed Tuesday night that's for sure. Pathetic.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Listen A@#wipe you are the one who said Argentina was so much shorter than us and its been proven they are not. Now you're trying to change the narrative again.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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i think you miss his point, and tha tis we are selecting the wrong players because our criteria is wrong.... Argentina won because of talent...whether their size is an issue doesn't come into play as that is not their main criteria for player development and selection....it is for our system unfortunately, so we mistakenly continue to look for the wrong players from an early age, discarding the players that are more technically adept if smaller than their counterparts....Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Competition from other sports is only part of it. A big part is cultural - we don't bleed soccer like they do in many other countries. Kids become passionate about a sport because the adults in their lives and schoolmates are. There's much more casual ply in other countries as well (our kids are way to over scheduled). Then there's the pay to play issue, lack of financial support for the sport, meager salaries (hmmmm do I skip a college education to play soccer or take my chances to play for $40K/year starting out?). It's a much broader issue that won't have one simple solution. US Soccer is fighting a long battle - which is another issue we have in this country; our short term emphasis on results, not taking the long term view.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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I totally agree that talent is more important than "bigger and faster". But Argentina has such a large pool of talent that they are able to pick the bigger and faster players. Even in Argentina, Messi's talent is special. At that talent level, height doesn't matter.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
I think the Argentine talent comes from constantly playing soccer (in and out of structured activities) and their cultural love for soccer that drives them to constantly play the game. Practicing 5 days a week is a joy and certainly not a burden to Argentines.Comment
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Da are the "Best Players" They train 4 days and 2 games a week 6hrs of training and 3 hrs of game time a week. That is 468 hrs a year if they trained every week Over 10 years that would only be 4680 hr of soccer. 8 to 18.
The theory is you need to have 10000 hrs on the ball to master the game. DA could double its efforts and would still be less than 10000 hrs.
The problem is not enough time on the ball at the rate our "best" Players are training it will take them over 21 years to get enough hours. Not that is not 10000 hrs of soccer specific training it involves speed, endurance, mental and soccer training.
Here are some articles on the 10000 hr rule the have competing opinions
http://changingthegameproject.com/the-10000-hour-myth/
http://www.soccer-training-info.com/..._hour_rule.asp
http://thetalentcode.com/2013/06/07/...or-10-minutes/
So perhaps a solution is to ignore the 10,000-Hour Rule and instead embrace the 10-Minute Rule. Which has three elements:
1) Focus: pick out a target skill — a single chunk you want to work on.
2) Super-high intensity
3) Rest: only do it when you’re fresh. If you’re exhausted, quit.
In other words: don’t approach practice like a factory worker logging hours. Instead, think like an opportunist. Be an entrepreneur (Coyle 2013).Comment
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Totally agree. Size does not matter. Messi did amazing. He is not selfish and knows how to play with others.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Big / Tall only matters when you have little skills and or a crappy coach who only wins by athleticism and can't teach or develop players with actual soccer skills. Very popular approach in U.S. youth soccer for subpar coaches who like cheap wins, but then get embarrassed when they play the teams that have been technically prepared. You see it every single year. Sadly, 90% of competitive soccer is this way. Clubs really are robbing parents.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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