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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostVery much so. So if a higher league will help improve the odds of getting coach interest and getting more prepared for college why wouldn't you do that? Obviously cost etc is a big factor for some families, but even NPL has costs. There's a debate on the CT board about a local top NPL player who is getting PT as a frosh at UCONN but seems to be struggling.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLOL, starts off with "If your kid has an actual soccer resume they don't really need to be "seen" because the college coaches already know about her.".
Then proceeds to show all the extra steps one needs to take to be "seen".
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOf course but it brings up the question of whether or not playing in the NPL (now a much weaker league than it was pre-GDA) will help get a player ready for D1 soccer.
Speed of play, physicality, athleticism, size, technical skill and tactical accumen all matter and are all higher on average at DA/ECNL than NPL. Like others have said, it's not impossible to play D1 from NPL but it's much harder and the risk is the adjustment to the higher level of play.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostClear case of a club coach protecting their turf. If your kid has played a lot of soccer on a bunch of different teams simply because they love soccer and are trying to play as much of it as possible they will develop a) a resume and b) into a player college coaches want. Pretty simple.
Here is the reality: That accounts for maybe 10 girls give or take in our region per birth year. Of those 10, maybe 5 are legit top prospect contenders and will have their pick of local soccer programs if they aren't picked up nationally. If you aren't part of the group, it's college ID camps, showcases, reaching out to coaches, etc and the higher up you are (i.e. DA/ECNL), the easier it is to get attention.
Colleges around here pick up 4-7 recruits each year and most aren't of the caliber I mentioned above so plenty of spots at all levels.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLOL, starts off with "If your kid has an actual soccer resume they don't really need to be "seen" because the college coaches already know about her.".
Then proceeds to show all the extra steps one needs to take to be "seen".
The showcases that someone is clearly pushing here are nothing but cattle call auditions. There are hundreds if not thousands of players at them. The players that are going to stand out right away, everyone knows about. There are going to be 1-2 of those players on each decent level team capable of doing that and the rest are going to compete with all of the other players on that field for the 15 or so minutes of attention each college coach typically will give a game. If your kid is an average low level D1 prospect they typically are going to have trouble standing out in those settings so showcases aren't really the most efficient way to get "seen" if you honestly believe that is the way go. Doesn't make them a bad player or an unworthy prospect but in those settings there are going to be a lot of those type players all vying for attention. Makes it very tough to get noticed.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostClear case of a club coach protecting their turf. If your kid has played a lot of soccer on a bunch of different teams simply because they love soccer and are trying to play as much of it as possible they will develop a) a resume and b) into a player college coaches want. Pretty simple.
So, again, you advocate taking a bunch of steps to develop a resume, which is akin to being seen. That's great, and not bad advice. Some want a one-stop shopping as a lump sum, some want it a la carte.
That's what is great about this game: Choose the path that best suits what you can do. If you are talented, it will work out.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you think the recruiting process only starts when your team starts going to showcases you are misinformed.
The showcases that someone is clearly pushing here are nothing but cattle call auditions. There are hundreds if not thousands of players at them. The players that are going to stand out right away, everyone knows about. There are going to be 1-2 of those players on each decent level team capable of doing that and the rest are going to compete with all of the other players on that field for the 15 or so minutes of attention each college coach typically will give a game. If your kid is an average low level D1 prospect they typically are going to have trouble standing out in those settings so showcases aren't really the most efficient way to get "seen" if you honestly believe that is the way go. Doesn't make them a bad player or an unworthy prospect but in those settings there are going to be a lot of those type players all vying for attention. Makes it very tough to get noticed.
Careful...your agenda is showing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe soccer resume is code for ODP Region 1 or PDP Northeast, various HS accolades, YNT camp call-ups, etc.
Here is the reality: That accounts for maybe 10 girls give or take in our region per birth year. Of those 10, maybe 5 are legit top prospect contenders and will have their pick of local soccer programs if they aren't picked up nationally. If you aren't part of the group, it's college ID camps, showcases, reaching out to coaches, etc and the higher up you are (i.e. DA/ECNL), the easier it is to get attention.
Colleges around here pick up 4-7 recruits each year and most aren't of the caliber I mentioned above so plenty of spots at all levels.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNot at all. I explained in my first post that you don't need to go that route, and gave a solid example of one who didn't and it's working out so far.
So, again, you advocate taking a bunch of steps to develop a resume, which is akin to being seen. That's great, and not bad advice. Some want a one-stop shopping as a lump sum, some want it a la carte.
That's what is great about this game: Choose the path that best suits what you can do. If you are talented, it will work out.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo. Here's the problem. NPL plays second fiddle to DA and ECNL. Top NPL players could play in either DA or ECNL, but not the entire roster. So the competition those top NPL players are playing against and the supporting members on their team are mostly inferior to those that D1 prospects are playing with and against, the majority of which are coming from the top two leagues.
Speed of play, physicality, athleticism, size, technical skill and tactical accumen all matter and are all higher on average at DA/ECNL than NPL. Like others have said, it's not impossible to play D1 from NPL but it's much harder and the risk is the adjustment to the higher level of play.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhere did I say it starts at a Showcase? I never made any assertion and never even led any rational person to think that.
Careful...your agenda is showing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostGDA and Ecnl leagues give better exposure, have a higher concentration of the better talent (why they have more exposure because college coaches know this!) and provide more of a playing challenge that is closer to college level play. It’s certainly not impossible but it’s harder for coaches to know how a player will fit in at college if they are seeing them play against non GDA and non Ecnl competition. Even the gpoy player at UConn is struggling compared to being the 2nd coming she was predicted to be. It’s simply much easier to stand out as some superstar vs inferior competition.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMy D went to a big D1 program ID Camp (not local) filled with ECNL and DA girls. She as a local NPL player, stood out in all the scrimmages and got pulled into the top pool. Some of the ECNL/DA girls she played against in the lower/unknown pool were not good. It was actually shocking how bad some of the play was. The coach of her group told her that New England has a reputation of a very strong NPL league, and they see those players differently than most other NPL leagues. So save me all your “adjustment” to college crap. Every player, club and league is different everywhere, and what was evident was that an NPL player from a strong team in New England was much better adjusted to the D1 play than many of the ECNL/DA players from the bottom half of there leagues all over the country. Honestly it was an eye opening experience.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMy D went to a big D1 program ID Camp (not local) filled with ECNL and DA girls. She as a local NPL player, stood out in all the scrimmages and got pulled into the top pool. Some of the ECNL/DA girls she played against in the lower/unknown pool were not good. It was actually shocking how bad some of the play was. The coach of her group told her that New England has a reputation of a very strong NPL league, and they see those players differently than most other NPL leagues. So save me all your “adjustment” to college crap. Every player, club and league is different everywhere, and what was evident was that an NPL player from a strong team in New England was much better adjusted to the D1 play than many of the ECNL/DA players from the bottom half of there leagues all over the country. Honestly it was an eye opening experience.
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