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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo you played NPL which got a new “ECNL Regional” name so now you claim you played ECNL. Got it. Hopefully GDA had at least as many coaches as the ECNL/NPL of yesteryear. Otherwise you are paying way too much for your new brand.
Even at PDA showcase we had mixed numbers. First two days it was in 70-80 and on the third day it was 10. Out of all showcases the San Diego event had the worst numbers for our team.
In the GDA playoffs we’d have 40-100 coaches per game. We had friends on a mid tier team that would have 20-60 coaches as well.
It’s cool to have a lot of interest- because it expends some of the possibilities for the entire team, but ultimately it’s whether you think that your team can draw the colleges that you are interested in. If you get 7 out of your kid’s top ten to come to any of the games - count that as a success. If your kid plays well when they are watching - that’s all you can hope for.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNot sure what you are basing this on. NPL became ECNL regional.
My kids played with GDA and ECNL and the quality and number of scouts is better at GDA, including standard non-showcase games. For instance, in the quarterfinals of ECNL we only had 6 coaches whereas we never had less than 20 at GDA playoffs.
The competition is better in NE ECNL (at least compared to 2 years ago in GDA) - but that’s a regional exception - travel is the same, and we need to pay extra for a hotel.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMy daughter plays for PDA Blue - so I can tell that this forum is full of misinformation.
Even at PDA showcase we had mixed numbers. First two days it was in 70-80 and on the third day it was 10. Out of all showcases the San Diego event had the worst numbers for our team.
In the GDA playoffs we’d have 40-100 coaches per game. We had friends on a mid tier team that would have 20-60 coaches as well.
It’s cool to have a lot of interest- because it expends some of the possibilities for the entire team, but ultimately it’s whether you think that your team can draw the colleges that you are interested in. If you get 7 out of your kid’s top ten to come to any of the games - count that as a success. If your kid plays well when they are watching - that’s all you can hope for.
The other piece is that the GDA only has two events all year, so if you’re interested in seeing them, you don’t have many opportunities. ECNL has many events but FL and PDA are by far the best. Of course all of this will depend on the team. If your team has a few stud players that are uncommitted, you’ll draw a crowd, but once they are gone, the numbers will drop.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSan Diego or the National Playoffs are always lower for a couple of reasons. 1) It’s at the end of the year and most of the Juniors and all of the Seniors are committed. Freshmen are too young with the new rules, so it’s really only the Soph class. 2) Since it is a playoff format, teams play to win which doesn’t lend itself to recruiting.
The other piece is that the GDA only has two events all year, so if you’re interested in seeing them, you don’t have many opportunities. ECNL has many events but FL and PDA are by far the best. Of course all of this will depend on the team. If your team has a few stud players that are uncommitted, you’ll draw a crowd, but once they are gone, the numbers will drop.
GDA has three events: Florida in December, Colorado in April, and California in June (from U15 and above).
This year, the first two will be competitive as part of the DA Cup competition vs. just glorified scrimmages. The last will be the playoffs or showcases, depending on your record.
There's college scouts at all events, but the numbers fluctuate at each game.
You mention "many events" for ECNL. I'm not familiar how many and where are they?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostGDA has three events: Florida in December, Colorado in April, and California in June (from U15 and above).
This year, the first two will be competitive as part of the DA Cup competition vs. just glorified scrimmages. The last will be the playoffs or showcases, depending on your record.
There's college scouts at all events, but the numbers fluctuate at each game.
You mention "many events" for ECNL. I'm not familiar how many and where are they?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAccording to the ECNL site they have events in Phoenix (Sept and April), Greer, SC (Dec), FL (Jan), Texas (Feb), PDA (Memorial Day) and the National Playoffs (June). I don’t think every club goes to every event.
That qualify
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCollege scouts and exposure better in GDA? Are you high? Have you seen the CFC ECNL 2020 commitment list? Please compare to Oakwood 2020 graduates and come back on here to explain. It’s not even close. The 2020 class were freshman when GDA was rolled out, the first to have a decision between GDA and ECNL and are a good measuring stick
You could have a couple of different measuring sticks, depending on what you are looking for (in terms of comparing the 2 leagues - and you could also add international players for colleges):
- number of players as part of the NT across different age groups
- number of players being invited to the NTC (regional)
- number of players being recruited to the top 10 soccer colleges
- number of players being recruited to the top 10 academic colleges
- starters coming from each league
How do these numbers change from year to year?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDo all teams go to the 3 events or are they regionally based?
Sounds like this is the same as GDA?
- there are 3 national events (mandatory for U15-U17) out of 5
- playoffs - for some of the age groups (different bracket/variants of playoffs - champions league 32 teams, cup 16 teams, showcase 16 teams or excluded).
- playoff finals (4 teams in each age group)
Next year there is also ECNLR or ECNL2 which will also be sending "top" teams to one of the playoff brackets.
Additional differences for GDA is that they play 3 games in 4 days (a mandatory break) which makes everyone stay a bit longer.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post. And fresher.
Teams travel together with GDA so parents need to don’t go.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCollege scouts and exposure better in GDA? Are you high? Have you seen the CFC ECNL 2020 commitment list? Please compare to Oakwood 2020 graduates and come back on here to explain. It’s not even close. The 2020 class were freshman when GDA was rolled out, the first to have a decision between GDA and ECNL and are a good measuring stick
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDumb comment. Commitment lists are a dumb way to measure anything. Both leagues offer the same level of exposure. the amount on any team is dictated by talent and circumstance . A team with one hot player may draw 70 coaches and all the big ones. That has nothing to do with the league.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDumb comment. Commitment lists are a dumb way to measure anything. Both leagues offer the same level of exposure. the amount on any team is dictated by talent and circumstance . A team with one hot player may draw 70 coaches and all the big ones. That has nothing to do with the league.
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