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    #16
    Cheaters never win cause winners never cheat.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Which clubs are bringing in DA ringers to win tournaments, and then bragging and advertising about their wonderful club teams and coaching? Sounds fraudulent. How would those teams be without those players?
      Interesting
      Boys PDA 2003 wins ENPL National Championship
      US Club Soccer (tweeted/Facebook) about the win. They interviewed a PDA 03 player about what it means to win the national championship. They posted the players name in the interview. Now go to the DA site and find PDA u16/u17 Boys team and you find this player they interviewed on the rooster and see he played in all 24 DA games this year and started 22 of them. Since this is an 02/03 team, he must be pretty good.
      So what is this player doing on their ECNL rooster for the post season?
      Are there more DA players on that team?
      Is it just a DA team playing in the ECNL?
      Are there really two separate teams?
      We all know the big clubs bring in “ringers” to try and win, but why?
      DA has a post season
      ECNL has a post season
      The big clubs that are in both just shuffling players around trying to win something?

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Interesting
        Boys PDA 2003 wins ENPL National Championship
        US Club Soccer (tweeted/Facebook) about the win. They interviewed a PDA 03 player about what it means to win the national championship. They posted the players name in the interview. Now go to the DA site and find PDA u16/u17 Boys team and you find this player they interviewed on the rooster and see he played in all 24 DA games this year and started 22 of them. Since this is an 02/03 team, he must be pretty good.
        So what is this player doing on their ECNL rooster for the post season?
        Are there more DA players on that team?
        Is it just a DA team playing in the ECNL?
        Are there really two separate teams?
        We all know the big clubs bring in “ringers” to try and win, but why?
        DA has a post season
        ECNL has a post season
        The big clubs that are in both just shuffling players around trying to win something?
        Who cares? A bunch of teams attended these playoffs. One team won. On the boys side, many clubs have both DA and ENCL teams so kids can move back and forth and its entirely legit. The teams that were at ENPL finals want to play the best competition, so if they bring in better players, all the better.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Who cares? A bunch of teams attended these playoffs. One team won. On the boys side, many clubs have both DA and ENCL teams so kids can move back and forth and its entirely legit. The teams that were at ENPL finals want to play the best competition, so if they bring in better players, all the better.
          You can't move between DA and ECNL in the same season. Against the rules of both leagues.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You can't move between DA and ECNL in the same season. Against the rules of both leagues.
            its not in season. its the playoffs. and its not an ECNL event, its the ENPL--a one-off end of year event.

            and maybe more importantly--who cares? play against whoever shows up

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              its not in season. its the playoffs. and its not an ECNL event, its the ENPL--a one-off end of year event.

              and maybe more importantly--who cares? play against whoever shows up
              and more importantly, the enpl rules specifically allow teams to add any age-qualifying players who were registered with the club to the roster right up until the event. so totally legit to add kids from other squads including da teams from same club

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                its not in season. its the playoffs. and its not an ECNL event, its the ENPL--a one-off end of year event.

                and maybe more importantly--who cares? play against whoever shows up
                It is US Club Soccer. They are trying to compete against DA. Yet they use DA players to do it. US Club does not care who the players are. They want to promote it as top soccer.

                The DA however should care. They are using their own players to compete again them.

                If the DA is the top level and everything else is a distant 2nd, then why would these clubs and players go and play in lesser events?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  and more importantly, the enpl rules specifically allow teams to add any age-qualifying players who were registered with the club to the roster right up until the event. so totally legit to add kids from other squads including da teams from same club
                  3 players can be added

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    its not in season. its the playoffs. and its not an ECNL event, its the ENPL--a one-off end of year event.

                    and maybe more importantly--who cares? play against whoever shows up
                    Teams must qualify for playoffs. They qualify based on the regular season standings. Why should they allow a club to switch their ECNL team for their DA team for the playoffs? Shouldn’t the players that earned the regular season results get to go to the playoffs. With some clubs, the additions and switching of players results in less then 1/2 of the original team on the playoff roster.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Teams must qualify for playoffs. They qualify based on the regular season standings. Why should they allow a club to switch their ECNL team for their DA team for the playoffs? Shouldn’t the players that earned the regular season results get to go to the playoffs. With some clubs, the additions and switching of players results in less then 1/2 of the original team on the playoff roster.
                      Again, who cares? Those are the rules and everybody knew them months ago. All the teams appear to have abided by them.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Teams must qualify for playoffs. They qualify based on the regular season standings. Why should they allow a club to switch their ECNL team for their DA team for the playoffs? Shouldn’t the players that earned the regular season results get to go to the playoffs. With some clubs, the additions and switching of players results in less then 1/2 of the original team on the playoff roster.
                        Sometimes it just isn't possible for summer events. Players come and go, then there's family commitments, vacations, camps etc that can't be changed. If they didn't give teams some flexibility many might not be able to play

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                          #27
                          EPNL is a huge money grab, most people know this. If they really wanted a tier two national championship, they could have cut the teams in half and have one event instead of Ill then CO. All about $$$ and lots of sucker clubs and parents think they are playing for some "national championship".

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            EPNL is a huge money grab, most people know this. If they really wanted a tier two national championship, they could have cut the teams in half and have one event instead of Ill then CO. All about $$$ and lots of sucker clubs and parents think they are playing for some "national championship".
                            Lots of parents are unimpressed by having to participate in "national championships" over the summer. The first league that gets rid of that nonsense will have an advantage. Many familes would prefer not to even qualify and would prefer to decline participating if they do qualify. Everyone understands this is a money grab.

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                              #29
                              Lots of teams weren’t good enough to make it .

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Lots of parents are unimpressed by having to participate in "national championships" over the summer. The first league that gets rid of that nonsense will have an advantage. Many familes would prefer not to even qualify and would prefer to decline participating if they do qualify. Everyone understands this is a money grab.
                                Not sure why DA, ECNL, and NPL do not pay for the top teams to attend. After a long season and all of the money that they have raised, they should be giving incentives for teams to play in these (other than pride, which very few players, parents and teams have anymore). Since they don't, it is totally just another money grab!!

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