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    #76
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Disney Jr Showcase at Thanksgiving always has all the D1 coaches lining the games and adding in the older teams won't change that! It will be bigger and better!
    Ignorance is bliss. I'm sure you must be very happy.

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      #77
      Adding in the older at the same time as the Junior helps college coaches scout Disney once a year. Disney can offer vacation resorts and park packages to the teams, coaches and families. In the news today.. man visits Disney 2,000 times. It never gets old coming to Florida and Disney in November!

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        #78
        How will the Wide World of Sports complex have enough main site fields? Will they accept less Florida teams with the Junior and Senior teams both attending?

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          #79
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Adding in the older at the same time as the Junior helps college coaches scout Disney once a year. Disney can offer vacation resorts and park packages to the teams, coaches and families. In the news today.. man visits Disney 2,000 times. It never gets old coming to Florida and Disney in November!
          College coaches are just coming off their hectic fall season and some play even longer if in playoffs. Hoew many will want to spend a fortune that time of year and have to travel at one of the busiest times of the year/family holiday time? Agree with above that if they have to make choices Disney would go first.

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            #80
            It may actually help the Disney Showcase. Most coaches were not spending four days at Sanford and then staying another couple of days for the Disney Tournament, that became very expensive and lengthy time commitment. By moving it a coach may very well feel that a trip in November and then again in January makes sense versus a full week or so at one time.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              It may actually help the Disney Showcase. Most coaches were not spending four days at Sanford and then staying another couple of days for the Disney Tournament, that became very expensive and lengthy time commitment. By moving it a coach may very well feel that a trip in November and then again in January makes sense versus a full week or so at one time.
              Agree. And send one assistant to each one

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                #82
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                It may actually help the Disney Showcase. Most coaches were not spending four days at Sanford and then staying another couple of days for the Disney Tournament, that became very expensive and lengthy time commitment. By moving it a coach may very well feel that a trip in November and then again in January makes sense versus a full week or so at one time.
                As I mentioned previously, considering a coach told my daughter she was probably skipping Disney in lieu of the GDA winter showcase now that Disney moved; I would imagine a number of coaches are considering that option.

                If Disney offered a "Free to Stay Package" for coaches and scouts, then that might entice them to make the effort. Understand, most colleges have a limited travel budget, especially the ones outside the powerhouse schools. Soccer is not a revenue generating sport even for most D1 programs.

                Also, with the addition of boys ECNL and Girls DA, there will be a large scale "shift up" with players who formerly played NPL and FSPL. Not all but many. Players that coaches used to come to Disney to see will now be playing in ECNL or GDA.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  As I mentioned previously, considering a coach told my daughter she was probably skipping Disney in lieu of the GDA winter showcase now that Disney moved; I would imagine a number of coaches are considering that option.

                  If Disney offered a "Free to Stay Package" for coaches and scouts, then that might entice them to make the effort. Understand, most colleges have a limited travel budget, especially the ones outside the powerhouse schools. Soccer is not a revenue generating sport even for most D1 programs.

                  Also, with the addition of boys ECNL and Girls DA, there will be a large scale "shift up" with players who formerly played NPL and FSPL. Not all but many. Players that coaches used to come to Disney to see will now be playing in ECNL or GDA.
                  Disney could add a top division for Only ECNL teams but Florida ECNL teams will do Disney and the Sanford showcase. No Florida elite players will want to miss out on elite recruiting events.

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                    #84
                    Good news for ODP Thanksgiving Interregionals to proceed Disney Thanksgiving Showcase

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      As I mentioned previously, considering a coach told my daughter she was probably skipping Disney in lieu of the GDA winter showcase now that Disney moved; I would imagine a number of coaches are considering that option.

                      If Disney offered a "Free to Stay Package" for coaches and scouts, then that might entice them to make the effort. Understand, most colleges have a limited travel budget, especially the ones outside the powerhouse schools. Soccer is not a revenue generating sport even for most D1 programs.

                      Also, with the addition of boys ECNL and Girls DA, there will be a large scale "shift up" with players who formerly played NPL and FSPL. Not all but many. Players that coaches used to come to Disney to see will now be playing in ECNL or GDA.
                      Thanksgiving week is one of two most expensive times of the year to book travel - Thanksgiving week and the week between Xmas and New Years . Schools with tight budgets may have to make choices. Flights in January, post holidays, are much cheaper - so much so they might be able to send two coaches instead of just one at Thanksgiving. Disney was already getting more FL/SE centric. Bigger events attract more from all over. FL/SE coaches can still attend Disney easily without flights. Most kids want to go to school within a half days' drive from home anyway so it may be a better fit for local schools, less so further away ones.

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                        #86
                        Think outside the box. ODP could move its girls and boys Interregional games to Disney the days before the Disney showcase. Would the hundreds of college coaches prefer Disney over Boca?

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Thanksgiving week is one of two most expensive times of the year to book travel - Thanksgiving week and the week between Xmas and New Years . Schools with tight budgets may have to make choices. Flights in January, post holidays, are much cheaper - so much so they might be able to send two coaches instead of just one at Thanksgiving. Disney was already getting more FL/SE centric. Bigger events attract more from all over. FL/SE coaches can still attend Disney easily without flights. Most kids want to go to school within a half days' drive from home anyway so it may be a better fit for local schools, less so further away ones.
                          Agree Disney will be a Win Win for the Southeast college coaches and the Southeast club teams who can get accepted into the tournament.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Agree Disney will be a Win Win for the Southeast college coaches and the Southeast club teams who can get accepted into the tournament.
                            Not trying to be a jerk here but it sounds like folks are adjusting their expectations to the new reality that Disney is not going to be the premiere tourney it used to be. Attracting schools nationally is what makes a tournament like Disney great.

                            Saying it ok because SE colleges will come is still pie in the sky. You think Auburn, Georgia, USC will choose to come to Disney over ECNL or DA events? It not just about the travel expense, it about the time on the calendar.

                            A lot of coaches came to Stanford ECNL and then stayed for Disney. I know because I have the game college sign in sheets to prove it. It was convenient and cost effective to look for talent that was not playing ECNL for whatever reason.

                            CASL and Jefferson Cup are already catering to ECNL teams over FSPL or NPL teams more and more so if Disney is making this move for $$$ overy your players, that sucks for kids, our clubs and soccer.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Not trying to be a jerk here but it sounds like folks are adjusting their expectations to the new reality that Disney is not going to be the premiere tourney it used to be. Attracting schools nationally is what makes a tournament like Disney great.

                              Saying it ok because SE colleges will come is still pie in the sky. You think Auburn, Georgia, USC will choose to come to Disney over ECNL or DA events? It not just about the travel expense, it about the time on the calendar.

                              A lot of coaches came to Stanford ECNL and then stayed for Disney. I know because I have the game college sign in sheets to prove it. It was convenient and cost effective to look for talent that was not playing ECNL for whatever reason.

                              CASL and Jefferson Cup are already catering to ECNL teams over FSPL or NPL teams more and more so if Disney is making this move for $$$ overy your players, that sucks for kids, our clubs and soccer.
                              Disney was already losing a bit of luster because of the big girls ECNL and BDA events and the bad timing and cost of attending (fewer teams from far away). Now there will also be boys ECNL and GDA. Schools evaluating somewhat lesser talent can do Disney, Jeff Cup etc. but the better programs will focus on ECNL and USSF events.

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Think outside the box. ODP could move its girls and boys Interregional games to Disney the days before the Disney showcase. Would the hundreds of college coaches prefer Disney over Boca?
                                That would be Thanksgiving, so no that doesn't work. College coaches have games all of November so moving it earlier than that isn't a good idea. Besides, with ECNL and DA (both boys and girls) as well as other ID venues like ID2, ODP's importance is quickly waning.

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