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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Top Drawer Soccer lists 11 girls committed to GCU.

    3 ECNL
    3 DA
    5 neither

    But don't let the truth get in the way with your persistent need to bash ECNL.
    That can’t be right. You are supposed to be scammed in Ecnl to play D1

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      But the other eight girls didn't spend $10k/year on fees and travel.

      (Actually, the three DA girls probably spent a fair amount of coin, given that GDA is only been around for two years and many of those programs were in ECNL previously).
      One of the “other” girls is from salmon creek nemesis. Bet she spent the same as an ECNL player with all the salmon creek travel.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        One of the “other” girls is from salmon creek nemesis. Bet she spent the same as an ECNL player with all the salmon creek travel.
        Bet you your name on here they didn’t.

        I bet you Cu Ecnl charged them almost 2x as much.

        Also salmon creek player didn’t have to travel near as much and didn’t have to put up with the dumb 24 player roster cu tried to do.

        Oh the gcu player that was at cu was at Washington Timbers for 4 years before she went to cu for one year.

        Speaks a lot that both those kids got to better programs then many of the cu Ecnl kids who were there since the start.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Top Drawer Soccer lists 11 girls committed to GCU.

          3 ECNL
          3 DA
          5 neither

          But don't let the truth get in the way with your persistent need to bash ECNL.
          So 11 Oregon girls are committed to this GCU that is #271 of D1 and a college many have never even heard of... Is there some kind of connection between Oregon and Grand Canyon?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Bet you your name on here they didn’t.

            I bet you Cu Ecnl charged them almost 2x as much.

            Also salmon creek player didn’t have to travel near as much and didn’t have to put up with the dumb 24 player roster cu tried to do.

            Oh the gcu player that was at cu was at Washington Timbers for 4 years before she went to cu for one year.

            Speaks a lot that both those kids got to better programs then many of the cu Ecnl kids who were there since the start.
            A better program? So a 50% scholarship to an online college where your daughter will be mentally, emotionally and physically abused is better than what exactly??? Wow you’re so desperate to tell everyone around the water cooler that your daughter plays “D1” soccer that you’ll literally feed her to the wolves. Yikes

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              GCU would not beat Concordia
              Jesuit HS is better than Concordia.

              BTW Concordia is a local D2 which is comparable to decent HS teams across th US.

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                #37
                OYSA Club

                Hi all:

                3 ECNL
                3 DA
                5 neither

                The above stat is great. Hope to see everyone at the OYSA club tryouts next year. Save some money for the the other 75% of school cost your soccer scholarship did pay for.

                The people posting CU was loose to JHS are crazy by the way, nuts.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  So 11 Oregon girls are committed to this GCU that is #271 of D1 and a college many have never even heard of... Is there some kind of connection between Oregon and Grand Canyon?
                  Absolutely there is a connection.

                  The players here in Portland Metro fit that level like a glove. The players that are around here are your typical “271st” in Div 1 school.

                  Honestly, I think our local Community College (Clark) probably plays better soccer and could beat them....but....Arizona is waaaaaay better weather in the winter.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Absolutely there is a connection.

                    The players here in Portland Metro fit that level like a glove. The players that are around here are your typical “271st” in Div 1 school.

                    Honestly, I think our local Community College (Clark) probably plays better soccer and could beat them....but....Arizona is waaaaaay better weather in the winter.
                    Nice, love when adults torch kids for making smart decisions. Going to College and playing a sport is a huge commitment, especially D1. GCU is a great choice and I am sure they will work out these women’s soccer issues. Cheers to all Oregon girls that get to continue there education and compete in sports at the D1 level. Anyone who throws shade in these fine young ladies direction should think about it for a minute before they go to the dark side!!!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Hi all:

                      3 ECNL
                      3 DA
                      5 neither

                      The above stat is great. Hope to see everyone at the OYSA club tryouts next year. Save some money for the the other 75% of school cost your soccer scholarship did pay for.

                      The people posting CU was loose to JHS are crazy by the way, nuts.
                      Our friend with the poor typing skills is correct. What you can take away from this is simply that if your player is anything "below" a top D1 level player (which applies to 99.9% of you), OYSA will be more than sufficient for college exposure.

                      The problem arises when a player from an outlying area (Bend, Medford, Eugene, and Salem to some degree) is motivated, but the team for her age group isn't skilled enough or motivated enough to get her into events where she needs to be seen.

                      And this right here is where OYSA fails players the most. What they should do is encourage some composite Timbers Alliance teams to form. These teams could go to a few of the bigger events that girls from Medford and Bend and Eugene might not get to go to. But OYSA, the organization with a stranglehold on youth soccer in Oregon, has no interest in something like that.

                      And in advance of the inevitable, yeah, ODP does this. But ODP ends right when kids trying to get recruited need exposure the most. Again, keeping in mind that these are not the .1% top level players, remember they aren't committing freshman and sophomore year, when ODP is still a thing. These kids are looking junior and even senior year - and there's no ODP at those ages.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Nice, love when adults torch kids for making smart decisions. Going to College and playing a sport is a huge commitment, especially D1. GCU is a great choice and I am sure they will work out these women’s soccer issues. Cheers to all Oregon girls that get to continue there education and compete in sports at the D1 level. Anyone who throws shade in these fine young ladies direction should think about it for a minute before they go to the dark side!!!
                        I agree with almost everything you said. But based on the article that prompted this thread, I'm not sure GCU is a great choice. I still have no idea what to believe about this program, but there's enough "smoke" there to make me feel wary.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Hi all:

                          3 ECNL
                          3 DA
                          5 neither

                          The above stat is great. Hope to see everyone at the OYSA club tryouts next year. Save some money for the the other 75% of school cost your soccer scholarship did pay for.

                          The people posting CU was loose to JHS are crazy by the way, nuts.
                          Girls do not change much (for the better) after age 16-17 when it comes to athleticism, most have plateaued. With that in mind a D1 ready player at age 18 in her senior year of HS is a tough match up for a 21 year old fully formed D1 FEMALE student athlete at a local private Portland small d2 college.

                          If that's crazy or nuts to you, congrats on recognizing your lunacy.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Nice, love when adults torch kids for making smart decisions. Going to College and playing a sport is a huge commitment, especially D1. GCU is a great choice and I am sure they will work out these women’s soccer issues. Cheers to all Oregon girls that get to continue there education and compete in sports at the D1 level. Anyone who throws shade in these fine young ladies direction should think about it for a minute before they go to the dark side!!!
                            With 350 schools being handed a girls soccer team due to title ix interpets and at the same time there are only 200 men's d1 teams. BTW at the HS level males out number females by 70K in participants (460K male & 390K female). Collegiate women's soccer is so diluted due to title ix they simply don't have the supply of d1 quality participants to match the demand needed to create 350 decent d1 teams. You have so many bottom level d1 teams that would struggle against most decent hs teams in the states. Not throwing shade just pointing out the unintended consequences of title ix implementation which gave birth to the cycle of madness know as girls travel soccer for scholarship dollars and watching the girls devolve from competitive beasts to travel flakes all on the parents stupid dime.

                            Love it.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Our friend with the poor typing skills is correct. What you can take away from this is simply that if your player is anything "below" a top D1 level player (which applies to 99.9% of you), OYSA will be more than sufficient for college exposure.

                              The problem arises when a player from an outlying area (Bend, Medford, Eugene, and Salem to some degree) is motivated, but the team for her age group isn't skilled enough or motivated enough to get her into events where she needs to be seen.

                              And this right here is where OYSA fails players the most. What they should do is encourage some composite Timbers Alliance teams to form. These teams could go to a few of the bigger events that girls from Medford and Bend and Eugene might not get to go to. But OYSA, the organization with a stranglehold on youth soccer in Oregon, has no interest in something like that.

                              And in advance of the inevitable, yeah, ODP does this. But ODP ends right when kids trying to get recruited need exposure the most. Again, keeping in mind that these are not the .1% top level players, remember they aren't committing freshman and sophomore year, when ODP is still a thing. These kids are looking junior and even senior year - and there's no ODP at those ages.
                              While everything you say is true, we already have the composite OYSA team you speak of: it’s called Thorns Academy. The only problem is OYSA players on non-composite teams from Vancouver, Eugene, Bend, Medford, Salem and all the metro areas are already getting players into D1 schools like Oregon, Oregon State, USC, GCU, etc without being on a composite team so there really is no need to travel away from your local club.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                While everything you say is true, we already have the composite OYSA team you speak of: it’s called Thorns Academy. The only problem is OYSA players on non-composite teams from Vancouver, Eugene, Bend, Medford, Salem and all the metro areas are already getting players into D1 schools like Oregon, Oregon State, USC, GCU, etc without being on a composite team so there really is no need to travel away from your local club.
                                Parents, do your research at a young age for your child. Research the schools you want your kid to go to and see the path that the majority of kids came from. DA, ECNL, or OYSA type club teams, and follow your preferred route.

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