Florida Colleges

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And the MA population is just under 7M. so more top schools per person.

But Florida ranking #4! Shows why # of FLvBright Futures awards are increasing. Yet UF and FSU remain stagnant in opening up more seats for freshman trying to increase reach around the nation, increase GPA and test scores required, and lower their acceptance rates.

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About 75% of Florida high schools are not earning a Gold or Silver rating and there is great disproportion. Also how many of the 25% were private?

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The worst part of this discussion is that it ignores how hard it is to get into those "gold" schools. Its sad when Kids have to compete with each in auditions, or get picked in a lottery, or even know someone in order to get into a good public school.

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The worst part of this discussion is that it ignores how hard it is to get into those "gold" schools. Its sad when Kids have to compete with each in auditions, or get picked in a lottery, or even know someone in order to get into a good public school.

Amen. Every neighborhood public elementary should be as good as the next with quality teachers and curriculum resources. There should be no need for Florida laws to allow kids to cross county lines to try to get into a better school and have school choice as long as they provide their own transportation. Now taxes and state money is given to private schools that limit enrollment. The whole system is a mess in elementary school and gets worse through high school.

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But Florida ranking #4! Shows why # of FLvBright Futures awards are increasing. Yet UF and FSU remain stagnant in opening up more seats for freshman trying to increase reach around the nation, increase GPA and test scores required, and lower their acceptance rates.

Hehe..."reach around"

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Mass public schools were ranked #1 by Forbes last year. Florida ranked 26. There is no magic about this - we don't spend money on education at the elementary level. In fact, none of the school systems in the South made the top 25. Makes you wonder.

MAybe your schools suck where you live. Okaloosa and Santa Rosa county schools are awesome.

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FL is almost at the bottom of per pupil spending. You get what you pay for. FL isn't paying for schools. You have to pay top dollar property taxes in the few good districts or go private. Getting a good education shouldn't be dependent on your zip code. But in that regard FL isn't alone - all states grapple with district inequity. But if the state isn't making education overall you get, well, FL schools.


http://www.governing.com/gov-data/ed...upil-data.html

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MAybe your schools suck where you live. Okaloosa and Santa Rosa county schools are awesome.

I'd be willing to bet your schools aren't nearly as good, on average, as the best districts in Mass.

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I'd be willing to bet your schools aren't nearly as good, on average, as the best districts in Mass.

That's the point - average here is weak there. Look at the spending $ someone posted. FL doesn't even spend close to the national average.

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The worst part of this discussion is that it ignores how hard it is to get into those "gold" schools. Its sad when Kids have to compete with each in auditions, or get picked in a lottery, or even know someone in order to get into a good public school.

How many public high schools in FL? How many private high schools in FL? How many total students graduating from each category? How many FL public vs FL private school students are getting admitted to UF?

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How many public high schools in FL? How many private high schools in FL? How many total students graduating from each category? How many FL public vs FL private school students are getting admitted to UF?

Who cares? The world needs ditch diggers too.

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One of the best Caddyshack lines ever...

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Who cares? The world needs ditch diggers too.

That's kinda the point. The world doesn't need nearly as many people to dig ditches as it used to. We have machines that do that faster and better. Instead of ten men, we use one man and a big machine. The other nine people need an education - either college or great trade schools - to get a job and get ahead. We don't spend money on that stuff, and many conservative politicians pretend like you don't. Consequently, they won't raise money for schools. Shop class used to be a great thing - build a car, learn how to make and pour metal into molds, etc. But the school budgets are so small now many schools can't afford to offer it. Our state is run by especially stupid, cheap politicians - there is money in this state to provide this stuff but public education has become a bad word to politicians. They all send their kids to private schools anyway.

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That's kinda the point. The world doesn't need nearly as many people to dig ditches as it used to. We have machines that do that faster and better. Instead of ten men, we use one man and a big machine. The other nine people need an education - either college or great trade schools - to get a job and get ahead. We don't spend money on that stuff, and many conservative politicians pretend like you don't. Consequently, they won't raise money for schools. Shop class used to be a great thing - build a car, learn how to make and pour metal into molds, etc. But the school budgets are so small now many schools can't afford to offer it. Our state is run by especially stupid, cheap politicians - there is money in this state to provide this stuff but public education has become a bad word to politicians. They all send their kids to private schools anyway.

Look it up. The budget for English as a second language students is enormous. Extra everything from free laptops to extend school day.

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That's kinda the point. The world doesn't need nearly as many people to dig ditches as it used to. We have machines that do that faster and better. Instead of ten men, we use one man and a big machine. The other nine people need an education - either college or great trade schools - to get a job and get ahead. We don't spend money on that stuff, and many conservative politicians pretend like you don't. Consequently, they won't raise money for schools. Shop class used to be a great thing - build a car, learn how to make and pour metal into molds, etc. But the school budgets are so small now many schools can't afford to offer it. Our state is run by especially stupid, cheap politicians - there is money in this state to provide this stuff but public education has become a bad word to politicians. They all send their kids to private schools anyway.

Many schools, especially the top schools, have become machines at pushing college. Some kids simply aren't college material or they just don't want it. But the schools keep pushing it because they want the stat of x% go on to college. What they don't track is how many successful outcomes there are. There aren't many trade schools and it's tough to get into some of them depending on the area. Really middle school kids are the ones that need to be exposed to this as a different path for them. True story - good buddy in another state has four boys. Two were good students and went to college. The second oldest hated school from an early age, had LD issues and it was constant struggles with him, getting services for him. He soldiered through and graduated HS. He started his own landscaping business and at 22 has a full list of clients, and has paid for all his quality equipment in cash. With the youngest, who also struggled, the parents didn't even bother with HS. Straight to trade school where he will eventually become an electrician (following an apprenticeship). The kid is 15, can literally fix anything and has a side business fixing things like lawnmowers. the kid is a hustler. When the parents told the district he would not be going to HS the district balked. Doing what is best for the individual seems to have gone out the window.