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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    With 9 teams, each home and away, that is 16 league games, plus any crossover games they might play as well as showcases. Plenty of games .... maybe too many in a short HS season unless they get 3 or 4 weekends in before winter (which they never seem to be able to do).
    HS teams only play each other once. 8 games with weekends open for showcases in the spring. More teams will be added next year, but for this 20-21 season, no need for more than this. Remember, ECNL events include games that count towards standings as well

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      HS teams only play each other once. 8 games with weekends open for showcases in the spring. More teams will be added next year, but for this 20-21 season, no need for more than this. Remember, ECNL events include games that count towards standings as well
      8 games is only 4 weekends if they stick to travel partners and Sat/Sun games. That's not enough for an entire year. With 15 teams, there were 14 league games. ECNL event games do not count for qualification into playoffs, only seeding once qualified.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        With 9 teams, each home and away, that is 16 league games, plus any crossover games they might play as well as showcases. Plenty of games .... maybe too many in a short HS season unless they get 3 or 4 weekends in before winter (which they never seem to be able to do).
        There would not be any crossover games if there are 16 league games.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          There would not be any crossover games if there are 16 league games.
          Crossover games would defeat the purpose of trying to reduce the geographic areas and travel required to play in this league.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            8 games is only 4 weekends if they stick to travel partners and Sat/Sun games. That's not enough for an entire year. With 15 teams, there were 14 league games. ECNL event games do not count for qualification into playoffs, only seeding once qualified.
            They always struggle to get their games in, and that was with starting in December. You won't get games in December and probably none in March either. With this pandemic, you will be lucky to start in April, and they have to be one playing by Memorial Day.

            This coming year will not allow for crazy travel, or for late fall, early spring seasons. Kids will have to attend as many ID clinics as possible to make up for a lost spring and summer season. Things will go back to normal the following year, and I predict they will add more teams in the 21-22 season.

            To me, this becomes all the more reason why clubs like Oakwood and NYSC should try to get into ECNL regional league and prove themselves there.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Crossover games would defeat the purpose of trying to reduce the geographic areas and travel required to play in this league.
              Of course there will be crossover games, they just probably won't include a schlepp from Massachusettes to Maryland. But a trip from World Class to Match Fit? You can bet on it.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Of course there will be crossover games, they just probably won't include a schlepp from Massachusettes to Maryland. But a trip from World Class to Match Fit? You can bet on it.
                Heard something a while back about crossover weekends at a "centralized location" (probably PDA), where there would be round robin style games that would count towards league. That's how Maryland plays Mass. etc.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Heard something a while back about crossover weekends at a "centralized location" (probably PDA), where there would be round robin style games that would count towards league. That's how Maryland plays Mass. etc.
                  Heard this as well.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Heard something a while back about crossover weekends at a "centralized location" (probably PDA), where there would be round robin style games that would count towards league. That's how Maryland plays Mass. etc.
                    Some variety is good, but if crossover games impact league standings/playoff qualification then I can see some issues with how those games are paired up. If they do them like the showcases and match higher seeded teams with like then there will be some easier paths for some teams vs. others. In a situation where a single goal can mean the difference in qualifying or not, then a system where not everyone is playing the same teams is flawed.

                    The showcase games are also a source of contention since they impact your final seeding. It makes sense to try to have those games be evenly matched for a showcase, but then don't have them count when trying to normalize the playoff rankings.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Some variety is good, but if crossover games impact league standings/playoff qualification then I can see some issues with how those games are paired up. If they do them like the showcases and match higher seeded teams with like then there will be some easier paths for some teams vs. others. In a situation where a single goal can mean the difference in qualifying or not, then a system where not everyone is playing the same teams is flawed.

                      The showcase games are also a source of contention since they impact your final seeding. It makes sense to try to have those games be evenly matched for a showcase, but then don't have them count when trying to normalize the playoff rankings.
                      Can't wait until we are back playing and can argue about pretty meaningless nonsense like what conference place a team of youth players gets or where a team is seeded in a youth soccer league play off.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Heard something a while back about crossover weekends at a "centralized location" (probably PDA), where there would be round robin style games that would count towards league. That's how Maryland plays Mass. etc.
                        This would just as interesting if it didn't count towards league. Make it a conference showcase, inviting college coaches and letting the players get more exposure. Teams could get playing time for all of their players without worrying about conference standings.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Can't wait until we are back playing and can argue about pretty meaningless nonsense like what conference place a team of youth players gets or where a team is seeded in a youth soccer league play off.
                          Agree.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Agree.
                            We agree there.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              This would just as interesting if it didn't count towards league. Make it a conference showcase, inviting college coaches and letting the players get more exposure. Teams could get playing time for all of their players without worrying about conference standings.
                              That's exactly what they were talking about (except the conference standings, they would count). I know on average my D's games usually got a good amount of local coaches to her games, depending on who the kids/coaches contacted. This type of thing would probably draw more without having to jump on a plane.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                That's exactly what they were talking about (except the conference standings, they would count). I know on average my D's games usually got a good amount of local coaches to her games, depending on who the kids/coaches contacted. This type of thing would probably draw more without having to jump on a plane.
                                PDA held a mini-showcase over Thanksgiving weekend played at PDA South fields with ECNL and ECRL high school aged teams, and they got ~100 college coaches to show up. I’m sure they could get a similar turnout if the timing was right.

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