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    Young People - COVID Stroke Risk

    Time to focus on empirical data. We should NOT do sports right now:

    COVID-19 strokes hitting younger, low-risk patients

    A large study of strokes associated with COVID-19 found that many strokes occur in relatively young people without risk factors, the Multinational COVID-19 Stroke Study Group reported on Friday ahead of peer review. Researchers in 32 countries identified 432 COVID-19 patients with strokes caused either by blocked blood flow to the brain - called ischemic strokes - or by blood hemorrhage in the brain. Among those with ischemic strokes, more than one-third had no coronavirus symptoms. About one in four had none of the traditional risk factors for stroke - such as heart disease, high blood pressure or smoking - and more than one-third were under age 55. Among patients with hemorrhagic stroke, 70% had "spontaneous" bleeding not explained by breaks in weakened artery walls. Usually, spontaneous bleeding accounts for only 15% of hemorrhagic strokes. Strokes were more severe in patients without typical risk factors. A separate study published on Saturday in the Journal of Neurology looking at people who do have the most significant stroke risk factors - either a previous stroke, or diseased arteries - found they have high rates of poor COVID-19 outcomes and should take "extra precautions" during the pandemic. (https://bi****/3kwdDWc; https://bi****/31HgCSW)

    #2
    Fake News from an anti soccer cancel culture Karen.
    Don’t feed the troll.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Time to focus on empirical data. We should NOT do sports right now:

      COVID-19 strokes hitting younger, low-risk patients

      A large study of strokes associated with COVID-19 found that many strokes occur in relatively young people without risk factors, the Multinational COVID-19 Stroke Study Group reported on Friday ahead of peer review. Researchers in 32 countries identified 432 COVID-19 patients with strokes caused either by blocked blood flow to the brain - called ischemic strokes - or by blood hemorrhage in the brain. Among those with ischemic strokes, more than one-third had no coronavirus symptoms. About one in four had none of the traditional risk factors for stroke - such as heart disease, high blood pressure or smoking - and more than one-third were under age 55. Among patients with hemorrhagic stroke, 70% had "spontaneous" bleeding not explained by breaks in weakened artery walls. Usually, spontaneous bleeding accounts for only 15% of hemorrhagic strokes. Strokes were more severe in patients without typical risk factors. A separate study published on Saturday in the Journal of Neurology looking at people who do have the most significant stroke risk factors - either a previous stroke, or diseased arteries - found they have high rates of poor COVID-19 outcomes and should take "extra precautions" during the pandemic. (https://bi****/3kwdDWc; https://bi****/31HgCSW)
      You link to two studies, apparently assuming no one will read them. The first study has nothing to do with strokes and their main conclusion is "COVID-19 patients with pre-existing cerebrovascular disease have poor outcomes." Ya think?

      The second study is more interesting and is indeed looking at strokes. But you're on a youth soccer board trying to stir people up talking about "relatively young" patients. The qualifier for a "relatively young" patient in the study is being under 55. And even using that parameter, only 24% of those in the study fall into that category (104 of them, to be precise; out of a study of 136 facilities spanning 32 countries).

      Finally, 38% of them came to the hospital because of stroke symptoms, not COVID. That's a pretty big leap to suggest it was COVID that caused the stroke.

      It's people like you that really piss me off. Stoking fear among as many as you can by providing bullsh_t "research" as evidence, and leaving out as much context as possible so that you can support an incredibly weak assertion.

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        #4
        Well said. Covid Karen is lying. Has her own agenda.

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          #5
          Then why did Big Ten and Pac 12 cancel ALL fall sports? The risks are too unknown to play.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Then why did Big Ten and Pac 12 cancel ALL fall sports? The risks are too unknown to play.
            The hell does this have to do with b.s. claims of correlation with strokes?

            To answer your question though, the risks associated with college athletics have more to do with logistics than with whatever takes place on the field. As in, players who have come together from all over the country (or world), traveling outside the geographic area of their school, staying in hotels, traveling on buses, etc. And the threat of one player spreading it to teammates while in one of these close contact situations, then the team in turn coming back and spreading it to an entire dorm/classroom/campus. Theoretically.

            Basically though, it all boils down to irrational panic.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The hell does this have to do with b.s. claims of correlation with strokes?

              To answer your question though, the risks associated with college athletics have more to do with logistics than with whatever takes place on the field. As in, players who have come together from all over the country (or world), traveling outside the geographic area of their school, staying in hotels, traveling on buses, etc. And the threat of one player spreading it to teammates while in one of these close contact situations, then the team in turn coming back and spreading it to an entire dorm/classroom/campus. Theoretically.

              Basically though, it all boils down to irrational panic.
              Thank you for saying that!
              College kids are older, also logistics etc not comparing apples to apples.
              I think this person invading RI boards is from MA as he/she dominated every thread for a couple months spewing fear, fake news and BS. I can't understand the motivation.
              If you don't feel safe, or you don't like sports...just stay home. BUT you don't get to speak for the majority of parents/players and coaches. My fear is one of these fear mongers is on the Superliga board throwing around these fears and spreading rumors. We need to realize that parents should be able to make up their own minds and to stop sports is wrong. It's always been an at your own risk environment. Sports may include: concussions, broken legs, broken backs, etc. Last year a club soccer player dies on her way to practice in a car accident. Sad things happen. It's always been at your own risk and always should be... if needed clubs can add a liability waiver to protect themselves. But stop trying to stop people from making their own choices.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Time to focus on empirical data. We should NOT do sports right now:

                COVID-19 strokes hitting younger, low-risk patients

                A large study of strokes associated with COVID-19 found that many strokes occur in relatively young people without risk factors, the Multinational COVID-19 Stroke Study Group reported on Friday ahead of peer review. Researchers in 32 countries identified 432 COVID-19 patients with strokes caused either by blocked blood flow to the brain - called ischemic strokes - or by blood hemorrhage in the brain. Among those with ischemic strokes, more than one-third had no coronavirus symptoms. About one in four had none of the traditional risk factors for stroke - such as heart disease, high blood pressure or smoking - and more than one-third were under age 55. Among patients with hemorrhagic stroke, 70% had "spontaneous" bleeding not explained by breaks in weakened artery walls. Usually, spontaneous bleeding accounts for only 15% of hemorrhagic strokes. Strokes were more severe in patients without typical risk factors. A separate study published on Saturday in the Journal of Neurology looking at people who do have the most significant stroke risk factors - either a previous stroke, or diseased arteries - found they have high rates of poor COVID-19 outcomes and should take "extra precautions" during the pandemic. (https://bi****/3kwdDWc; https://bi****/31HgCSW)
                Copy/paste from a response to where you posted this on another board:

                You link to two studies, apparently assuming no one will read them. The first study has nothing to do with strokes and their main conclusion is "COVID-19 patients with pre-existing cerebrovascular disease have poor outcomes." Ya think?

                The second study is more interesting and is indeed looking at strokes. But you're on a youth soccer board trying to stir people up talking about "relatively young" patients. The qualifier for a "relatively young" patient in the study is being under 55. And even using that parameter, only 24% of those in the study fall into that category (104 of them, to be precise; out of a study of 136 facilities spanning 32 countries).

                Finally, 38% of them came to the hospital because of stroke symptoms, not COVID. That's a pretty big leap to suggest it was COVID that caused the stroke.

                It's people like you that really piss me off. Stoking fear among as many as you can by providing bullsh_t "research" as evidence, and leaving out as much context as possible so that you can support an incredibly weak assertion.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Copy/paste from a response to where you posted this on another board:

                  You link to two studies, apparently assuming no one will read them. The first study has nothing to do with strokes and their main conclusion is "COVID-19 patients with pre-existing cerebrovascular disease have poor outcomes." Ya think?

                  The second study is more interesting and is indeed looking at strokes. But you're on a youth soccer board trying to stir people up talking about "relatively young" patients. The qualifier for a "relatively young" patient in the study is being under 55. And even using that parameter, only 24% of those in the study fall into that category (104 of them, to be precise; out of a study of 136 facilities spanning 32 countries).

                  Finally, 38% of them came to the hospital because of stroke symptoms, not COVID. That's a pretty big leap to suggest it was COVID that caused the stroke.

                  It's people like you that really piss me off. Stoking fear among as many as you can by providing bullsh_t "research" as evidence, and leaving out as much context as possible so that you can support an incredibly weak assertion.
                  Flattering that you liked my post enough to copy/paste it, but the "other board" that original paste came from was this one; this thread, to be specific (look up a few responses). ;)

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