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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Hogwash. If a supposed high level player doesn't attend practice and put in at least 8-10 hours a week practicing their trade, they are not a high level player for long except in mommy and daddy's fertile imagination.
    why do you always take what is written out of context? the poster didn't say the players didn't practice less. they said they practiced more. often on their own. maybe they come from a working class family with parents unable to drop everything and taxi them regularly to practice. doesn't mean they aren't going to continue to practice hard and improve.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      why do you always take what is written out of context? the poster didn't say the players didn't practice less. they said they practiced more. often on their own. maybe they come from a working class family with parents unable to drop everything and taxi them regularly to practice. doesn't mean they aren't going to continue to practice hard and improve.
      Except the DA is supposed to now be the top level of the youth pyramid and you would hope that the players at that level would be putting in the amount of work necessary to be a top level player. That amount of work has to be commensurate with what players in all the top level academies around the world are putting in recognizing that the most committed players are putting in even more work than that. That's the peer group these kids should be comparing themselves to and anyone who either isn't willing or unable for other reasons to put in that amount of work really shouldn't be the focus of the DA. That just drops the bar and ultimately will prevent the program from attaining its goals.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        It's all in the age....we're mixing kids with high school, college, pro, "NT" and the pinnacle, semi pro, whatever that means.

        Of course any level above grade/middle school needs to attend virtually every practice. However, any player below high school who doesn't practice more on their own than with a team will NEVER be successful. That shifts pretty quickly in high school and almost completely in college.

        Been there... and done that....
        Someone posted this link last week and it is quite relevant to this discussion.

        http://www.ecaeurope.com/Research/EC...0Academies.pdf

        In it they lay out several norms across the youth academies at several major clubs. Here are a couple that some of you should think about. This is where the bar should be set for a DA level player.

        "Team sessions: U12 41-42 weeks, 3x per week, 4-5 hrs per week, 13-15: 44 weeks, 5x per week, 7 hrs per week, 16 and above 5x per week, 7-9 hrs per week"

        "Individual sessions: U12 once per week 30-60 minutes and >12 at least 2x per week, 90 minutes to 2 hrs per week"

        "Number of tournaments decrease over the years (from 10 to 6 per year), whilst international tournaments increase (1 to 2 per year)"

        "75% of clubs work with video analysis and coaching syllabus physical fitness training start at most clubs from age 14 years"

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Except the DA is supposed to now be the top level of the youth pyramid and you would hope that the players at that level would be putting in the amount of work necessary to be a top level player. That amount of work has to be commensurate with what players in all the top level academies around the world are putting in recognizing that the most committed players are putting in even more work than that. That's the peer group these kids should be comparing themselves to and anyone who either isn't willing or unable for other reasons to put in that amount of work really shouldn't be the focus of the DA. That just drops the bar and ultimately will prevent the program from attaining its goals.
          This is exactly it. There are too many players in BDAP already that are unwilling/unable to put in the necessary time and work, which drags the entire system down. I think it will be even worse with GDAP, especially to start out, as many exceptions will have to be made to get the program off the ground.

          Unfortunately, I don't see a way to fix this problem in our country. You could probably gather the top 3 or 4 kids from every DAP team and have a group of players with the right mentality and skill level to make huge improvements at the top level in the USA, but because of our geography, it's impossible for these players to regularly train together and to compete with each other in a viable league. Residency programs would training aspect, but the travel to compete with 10-12 residency programs across the country would be prohibitive.

          It would be interesting to try something like this in a small geographic area that has a concentration of highly skilled players (say California). Set up 8 residency programs around the state, taking as many top players as they can get, and have them compete against each other. If these programs end up creating YNT & MNT/WNT players, top players from other regions of the country may be attracted to them. You still wouldn't be getting all the best players in the country, and may not be able to get them in the system at a young enough age, but it could be an improvement over the current DA system and USSF U17 residency program (which is very limited in the number of participants).

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Someone posted this link last week and it is quite relevant to this discussion.

            http://www.ecaeurope.com/Research/EC...0Academies.pdf

            In it they lay out several norms across the youth academies at several major clubs. Here are a couple that some of you should think about. This is where the bar should be set for a DA level player.

            "Team sessions: U12 41-42 weeks, 3x per week, 4-5 hrs per week, 13-15: 44 weeks, 5x per week, 7 hrs per week, 16 and above 5x per week, 7-9 hrs per week"

            "Individual sessions: U12 once per week 30-60 minutes and >12 at least 2x per week, 90 minutes to 2 hrs per week"

            "Number of tournaments decrease over the years (from 10 to 6 per year), whilst international tournaments increase (1 to 2 per year)"

            "75% of clubs work with video analysis and coaching syllabus physical fitness training start at most clubs from age 14 years"
            Get back to me when the US provides this:

            InfRasTRuCTuRe (faCIlITIes,
            MeDICal, soCIal)
            • 75% of the clubs have a combined facility for the
            youth academy and first team

            On average, there are 4 pitches per youth academy
            • 66% of the clubs have transportation for their
            academy players to training sessions
            • 75% of the clubs carry out anthropometric assess-
            ment
            • More than 50% of the youth academies work with a
            psychologist, mostly for mental screening and
            about 60% of the clubs provide social support

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Get back to me when the US provides this:

              InfRasTRuCTuRe (faCIlITIes,
              MeDICal, soCIal)
              • 75% of the clubs have a combined facility for the
              youth academy and first team

              On average, there are 4 pitches per youth academy
              • 66% of the clubs have transportation for their
              academy players to training sessions
              • 75% of the clubs carry out anthropometric assess-
              ment
              • More than 50% of the youth academies work with a
              psychologist, mostly for mental screening and
              about 60% of the clubs provide social support
              Wow, that is a lot of mumbo jumbo they do off and around the field. They should probably put a little focus into making the boys side more competitive on the field though so they don't keep losing at the highest levels. No charge for my analysis.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Wow, that is a lot of mumbo jumbo they do off and around the field. They should probably put a little focus into making the boys side more competitive on the field though so they don't keep losing at the highest levels. No charge for my analysis.
                Clown, try staying with the discussion before posting something stupid. That quote is about what the overseas academies are doing. Your logic says we should be doing a heck of a lot more that sort of stuff if we just want to catch them. Heaven forbid we might want to do more so we can actually jump in front of the other countries.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Clown, try staying with the discussion before posting something stupid. That quote is about what the overseas academies are doing. Your logic says we should be doing a heck of a lot more that sort of stuff if we just want to catch them. Heaven forbid we might want to do more so we can actually jump in front of the other countries.
                  Stuff it, BTNT. Please explain why you have repeatedly insisted for years that league and club didn't matter in the least, and now all of the sudden the world will explode if every talented player doesn't commit to GDA.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Stuff it, BTNT. Please explain why you have repeatedly insisted for years that league and club didn't matter in the least, and now all of the sudden the world will explode if every talented player doesn't commit to GDA.
                    Here's a clue... because it's not BTDT. Just a different clown trying to sell the concept. Ahead and keep assuming everyone here is BTDT.

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                      Does this club still have an ECNL spot? I never see them playing tournaments. Are their teams so bad that they don't participate? BBA Ecnl and stars Ecnl seems to be at every tournament though, did FC Boston switch names again?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Does this club still have an ECNL spot? I never see them playing tournaments. Are their teams so bad that they don't participate? BBA Ecnl and stars Ecnl seems to be at every tournament though, did FC Boston switch names again?
                        They still exist but teams are weak now. They do tournaments but never in top bracket, have to scroll down with the maple teams, that's their level now.

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                          must be getting close to the season start

                          Does this club still have an ECNL spot? I never see them playing tournaments. Are their teams so bad that they don't participate? BBA Ecnl and stars Ecnl seems to be at every tournament though, did FC Boston switch names again?


                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          They still exist but teams are weak now. They do tournaments but never in top bracket, have to scroll down with the maple teams, that's their level now.
                          Wow. This thread has been dead for 2 weeks!! It must be getting close to the start of the spring season. Otherwise why would the breaker and stars parents be out???
                          Since you have already sold off the Bolts/Scorpions as second (maybe third?) rate teams, should we call every victory of BBA and Stars an upset and start a new thread???

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                            So glad I don't have a girl playing soccer.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              They still exist but teams are weak now. They do tournaments but never in top bracket, have to scroll down with the maple teams, that's their level now.
                              Sorry your kid got cut.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                So glad I don't have a girl playing soccer.
                                Same. The youth soccer for girls has the worst parents.

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