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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe (big) DA be it boys or girls is the same, per US Soccer mandate and governance. ECNL is a US Club Soccer league without any billing as a US Soccer DA entity. US Club also offers a boys ECNL version do the boys clubs that sign up for this league go crazy when their top players get chosen for DA?
In Oregon for instance with the dramatic dilution caused by the Timbers DA & Thorns DA as the embedded top tier, what reasoning or logic could ever justify local team clubs spending thousands on travel? When they are so poor regionally and nationally?
Colleges reach out to Oregon kids for placement less than they did when all the teams played in just the OYSA/USYS.
Furthermore, USYS for both boys & girls for half a century had better teams in that format than the spin-off US Club leagues could ever boast. Using your twisted logic we should all go back to the 'pathway' of just the USYS championships, FWRL, National league and ODP since it worked'.
Confusing usys or us club leagues as something similar to the DA in today's club landscape is simply not relevant or germane. It's like comparing apples & oranges..
In the end US Soccer is disturbing the business of US Club shady girls club soccer, and it takes $$ out of the con men/women who are selling pipe dreams based on travel & showcasing.
Lovin it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThose two clubs are just like every other run of the mill shop in Portland metro area, they aren't carry any torch for a cause vs the US DA stationed at our local MLS & NWSL clubs. Fighting tooth and nail for what, full fare frequent flyer miles? There's a cause.
In the end it would be nice to have something of quality, once again come from Oregon in club Soccer. Under the current pay to keep soccer bums employed model, it's far worse than a monopoly. It's a racket that produces loads and loads of pond scum with parents forking over millions of wasted dollars for unfiltered algae.
The DA is across the U.S., most aren't subsidized just the Professional (MLS/NWSL) clubs can invest that much into the youth. The local clubs have too many dollars tied up in salaries and overhead to every give back to the actual players.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCall it what you want, facts are facts. Thornz Asylum is no better than an average Portland area rec team. And the teams they play in their "league" are much the same.
You might think that GDA is less competitive than ECNL generally, or that the Thorns are less competitive than FC or CU. But comparing this to recreational soccer makes you look like an ass.
Really. You'd do better to offer up substantive criticisms than we can take seriously, if you're concerned about this, than juvenile comments like that.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhen the local clubs got raided with the inception of the Timbers DA in 2012 (and they still do) they took the hit & treat it is a badge of honor as they are developing players worthy of selection to the big DA. It's evolved into 7 local clubs committing to play themselves 4x year with their best players funneled to the big DA. It's become a well oiled machine these days.
Now the Thorns DA is overhauling many of these same clubs and 2 of them (local clubs) are just plain pissed that their best are leaving? Why is that? It makes no sense why these same clubs rejoice when their boys are selected to the DA but cry foul about the girls? What gives?
Please explain how these same clubs react differently about boys being promoted vs girls?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTheres an easy answer. On the boys side there was only 1 "bigger option" coming to take players, but now they are fighting with 2 ECNL clubs and the DA, so thats 3 "bigger options" so yeah its a bigger hit.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe question was being asked about the ECNL clubs: Why does e.g. FC Portland not object when boys leave Navy/DA for the Timbers Academy, but scream bloody murder at the idea of girls leaving the ENCL program for Thorns?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBecause losing one or two top boys per age group to the DA isn’t as bad as losing 7-10+ top players to GDA + CU Ecnl + FC Ecnl.
FC thinks their ECNL program is equal to, if not superior to, the GDA--and resents the GDA offering players a better deal.
Even the folks at FC aren't daft enough to think their Navy teams are better than the Timbers Academy.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMore to the point:
FC thinks their ECNL program is equal to, if not superior to, the GDA--and resents the GDA offering players a better deal.
Even the folks at FC aren't daft enough to think their Navy teams are better than the Timbers Academy.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThornz GDA is nowhere near ECNL level. Probably wouldn't even win OYSA at most age groups. So why bother with it? It's just Peregrine trying to squeeze even more money out of youth soccer.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt's worse at FC & CU they don't subsidize out of state travel for their league/showcasing junkets. The parents are stuck with the entire tab. Jus sayin.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThorns teams performed very poorly. Maybe parents wouldn’t pay so good thing someone helps with trips to Burlingame.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBecause losing one or two top boys per age group to the DA isn’t as bad as losing 7-10+ top players to GDA + CU Ecnl + FC Ecnl.
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