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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Dont all good teams recruit players off other teams?
    That's how good teams get better and bad teams get worse. Player movement accounts for about 80% of changes in team performance. 15% is due to player development and 5% is due to coach development.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      The (big) DA be it boys or girls is the same, per US Soccer mandate and governance. ECNL is a US Club Soccer league without any billing as a US Soccer DA entity. US Club also offers a boys ECNL version do the boys clubs that sign up for this league go crazy when their top players get chosen for DA?

      In Oregon for instance with the dramatic dilution caused by the Timbers DA & Thorns DA as the embedded top tier, what reasoning or logic could ever justify local team clubs spending thousands on travel? When they are so poor regionally and nationally?

      Colleges reach out to Oregon kids for placement less than they did when all the teams played in just the OYSA/USYS.

      Furthermore, USYS for both boys & girls for half a century had better teams in that format than the spin-off US Club leagues could ever boast. Using your twisted logic we should all go back to the 'pathway' of just the USYS championships, FWRL, National league and ODP since it worked'.

      Confusing usys or us club leagues as something similar to the DA in today's club landscape is simply not relevant or germane. It's like comparing apples & oranges..

      In the end US Soccer is disturbing the business of US Club shady girls club soccer, and it takes $$ out of the con men/women who are selling pipe dreams based on travel & showcasing.

      Lovin it.
      You're right, people shouldn't confuse US Soccer GDA with ECNL or USYS. Both ECNL and USYS are higher level than GDA.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        You're right, people shouldn't confuse US Soccer GDA with ECNL or USYS. Both ECNL and USYS are higher level than GDA.
        troll

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Those two clubs are just like every other run of the mill shop in Portland metro area, they aren't carry any torch for a cause vs the US DA stationed at our local MLS & NWSL clubs. Fighting tooth and nail for what, full fare frequent flyer miles? There's a cause.

          In the end it would be nice to have something of quality, once again come from Oregon in club Soccer. Under the current pay to keep soccer bums employed model, it's far worse than a monopoly. It's a racket that produces loads and loads of pond scum with parents forking over millions of wasted dollars for unfiltered algae.

          The DA is across the U.S., most aren't subsidized just the Professional (MLS/NWSL) clubs can invest that much into the youth. The local clubs have too many dollars tied up in salaries and overhead to every give back to the actual players.
          Even the semi-professional clubs like Thornz don't subsidize girls DA. Costs have gone way up from the original promise of $500 per year all-in. Now the only thing clubs and girls are going "all-in" on is ECNL.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            troll
            Call it what you want, facts are facts. Thornz Asylum is no better than an average Portland area rec team. And the teams they play in their "league" are much the same.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Call it what you want, facts are facts. Thornz Asylum is no better than an average Portland area rec team. And the teams they play in their "league" are much the same.
              Still trolling.

              You might think that GDA is less competitive than ECNL generally, or that the Thorns are less competitive than FC or CU. But comparing this to recreational soccer makes you look like an ass.

              Really. You'd do better to offer up substantive criticisms than we can take seriously, if you're concerned about this, than juvenile comments like that.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                When the local clubs got raided with the inception of the Timbers DA in 2012 (and they still do) they took the hit & treat it is a badge of honor as they are developing players worthy of selection to the big DA. It's evolved into 7 local clubs committing to play themselves 4x year with their best players funneled to the big DA. It's become a well oiled machine these days.

                Now the Thorns DA is overhauling many of these same clubs and 2 of them (local clubs) are just plain pissed that their best are leaving? Why is that? It makes no sense why these same clubs rejoice when their boys are selected to the DA but cry foul about the girls? What gives?

                Please explain how these same clubs react differently about boys being promoted vs girls?
                Theres an easy answer. On the boys side there was only 1 "bigger option" coming to take players, but now they are fighting with 2 ECNL clubs and the DA, so thats 3 "bigger options" so yeah its a bigger hit.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Theres an easy answer. On the boys side there was only 1 "bigger option" coming to take players, but now they are fighting with 2 ECNL clubs and the DA, so thats 3 "bigger options" so yeah its a bigger hit.
                  The question was being asked about the ECNL clubs: Why does e.g. FC Portland not object when boys leave Navy/DA for the Timbers Academy, but scream bloody murder at the idea of girls leaving the ENCL program for Thorns?

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The question was being asked about the ECNL clubs: Why does e.g. FC Portland not object when boys leave Navy/DA for the Timbers Academy, but scream bloody murder at the idea of girls leaving the ENCL program for Thorns?
                    Because losing one or two top boys per age group to the DA isn’t as bad as losing 7-10+ top players to GDA + CU Ecnl + FC Ecnl.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Because losing one or two top boys per age group to the DA isn’t as bad as losing 7-10+ top players to GDA + CU Ecnl + FC Ecnl.
                      More to the point:

                      FC thinks their ECNL program is equal to, if not superior to, the GDA--and resents the GDA offering players a better deal.

                      Even the folks at FC aren't daft enough to think their Navy teams are better than the Timbers Academy.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        More to the point:

                        FC thinks their ECNL program is equal to, if not superior to, the GDA--and resents the GDA offering players a better deal.

                        Even the folks at FC aren't daft enough to think their Navy teams are better than the Timbers Academy.
                        Thornz GDA is nowhere near ECNL level. Probably wouldn't even win OYSA at most age groups. So why bother with it? It's just Peregrine trying to squeeze even more money out of youth soccer.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Thornz GDA is nowhere near ECNL level. Probably wouldn't even win OYSA at most age groups. So why bother with it? It's just Peregrine trying to squeeze even more money out of youth soccer.
                          It's worse at FC & CU they don't subsidize out of state travel for their league/showcasing junkets. The parents are stuck with the entire tab. Jus sayin.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            It's worse at FC & CU they don't subsidize out of state travel for their league/showcasing junkets. The parents are stuck with the entire tab. Jus sayin.
                            Thorns teams performed very poorly. Maybe parents wouldn’t pay so good thing someone helps with trips to Burlingame.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Thorns teams performed very poorly. Maybe parents wouldn’t pay so good thing someone helps with trips to Burlingame.
                              Having to travel to find a below average team to notch a W, is a all that FC P & CU can sell these dayz at full retail . Defections continue in droves. Jus sayin.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Because losing one or two top boys per age group to the DA isn’t as bad as losing 7-10+ top players to GDA + CU Ecnl + FC Ecnl.
                                Westside & FC Portland boys were hit with even larger numbers than 7-10 around 2012/13 in the first couple years of the Timbers DA. No whining just pride and a sense of accomplishment. The first couple years the local clubs take a hit form the Big DA. That's what the local clubs are feeling today on the girls side. This isn't something unexpected are worth crying about. It's called natural selection.

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