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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Soccer will continue to grow and become accepted as a US sport as the country continues to diversify. Immigrants are by far soccer fans more than they are football, basketball and baseball. It is also a sport that requires only a ball and open space. Many public school have taken up soccer because it requires so little capital. Finally, as soccer players become soccer parents, the sport will grow the fan base exponentially. Think of it this way, most boys play football, basketball or baseball because their parents directed them to the sport from the time they are born. As more and more parents put soccer on the tube and a soccer plush in the crib, you will see more kids play soccer.

    The other factor is the teen culture of sports. As alluded to in previous posts, there is no fanbase for soccer in High School. Regardless of what you feel about HS v Club, the High School is the social center of a teenagers life. Kids naturally gravitate towards the more popular sports. They don't hold pep rallies for the soccer team. This will change as soccer continues to grow in popular culture. In some Hispanic neighborhoods, soccer is already more popular than football.

    One change that will help the sport retain players is to play soccer during the same season across the country. Some schools play in the fall, some in Winter and some in Spring. There is no way you can build a consensus national ranking and schedule cross state rivalries when there is no "soccer season" in High School.

    Of course the Club Snobs will disparage High School soccer as being dangerous, recreational and irrelevant. In most regions, they are right. The only exception would be among the private schools which can afford to hire professional coaches and recruit the best talent. Among public schools, HS is a hodge-podge of skilled club players and clueless rec players with school spirit.

    This will probably be the last thing to change. Government is the slowest to change and we all know that public schools are bureaucratic sloths slowed even more by the scrutiny of parents. All it takes is one parent to stand up at a school board meeting and raise a concern and a policy change will be tabled for months while a "blue-ribbon panel" conducts a study. I still feel the popularity of the sport will eventually win over even the most traditional school boards. Soccer coaches will become principals and soccer fans will become school board members. Someone will present a financial analysis that shows that soccer cost the school 10% of football, basketball and baseball and the old guard will be persuaded to bring the sport into fold. Once that happens, you will see soccer hit another growth spurt as more kids stick with it and more parents accept it as an American Sport.
    Soccer is on its way to being the biggest sport in the U.S.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Soccer will continue to grow and become accepted as a US sport as the country continues to diversify. Immigrants are by far soccer fans more than they are football, basketball and baseball. It is also a sport that requires only a ball and open space. Many public school have taken up soccer because it requires so little capital. Finally, as soccer players become soccer parents, the sport will grow the fan base exponentially. Think of it this way, most boys play football, basketball or baseball because their parents directed them to the sport from the time they are born. As more and more parents put soccer on the tube and a soccer plush in the crib, you will see more kids play soccer.

      The other factor is the teen culture of sports. As alluded to in previous posts, there is no fanbase for soccer in High School. Regardless of what you feel about HS v Club, the High School is the social center of a teenagers life. Kids naturally gravitate towards the more popular sports. They don't hold pep rallies for the soccer team. This will change as soccer continues to grow in popular culture. In some Hispanic neighborhoods, soccer is already more popular than football.

      One change that will help the sport retain players is to play soccer during the same season across the country. Some schools play in the fall, some in Winter and some in Spring. There is no way you can build a consensus national ranking and schedule cross state rivalries when there is no "soccer season" in High School.

      Of course the Club Snobs will disparage High School soccer as being dangerous, recreational and irrelevant. In most regions, they are right. The only exception would be among the private schools which can afford to hire professional coaches and recruit the best talent. Among public schools, HS is a hodge-podge of skilled club players and clueless rec players with school spirit.

      This will probably be the last thing to change. Government is the slowest to change and we all know that public schools are bureaucratic sloths slowed even more by the scrutiny of parents. All it takes is one parent to stand up at a school board meeting and raise a concern and a policy change will be tabled for months while a "blue-ribbon panel" conducts a study. I still feel the popularity of the sport will eventually win over even the most traditional school boards. Soccer coaches will become principals and soccer fans will become school board members. Someone will present a financial analysis that shows that soccer cost the school 10% of football, basketball and baseball and the old guard will be persuaded to bring the sport into fold. Once that happens, you will see soccer hit another growth spurt as more kids stick with it and more parents accept it as an American Sport.
      Unfortunately the wide variety of weather, field availability and multi-sport player availability will make consistent HS seasons difficult. For example, many schools, particularly smaller ones, won't have a field left with 2-4 soccer games (boys and girls) plus a football game in a week.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Soccer is on its way to being the biggest sport in the U.S.
        It already is the most popular youth sport but once parents realize their little potbellied child isn't athletic enough for the sport they move them to a more suitable nonathletic sport like baseball.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Unfortunately the wide variety of weather, field availability and multi-sport player availability will make consistent HS seasons difficult. For example, many schools, particularly smaller ones, won't have a field left with 2-4 soccer games (boys and girls) plus a football game in a week.
          I agree. It will take an overwhelming show of support from students and parents (and community at-large) for high schools to find or built the facilities to make soccer a fall sport. I don't think we will see it supplant football as the primary school sport in our lifetime. I do think Soccer has life as a spring sport. Yes, Lacrosse competes for those same fields, however, LAX is not as popular as soccer with a few exceptions in the Northeast. Some will lament that it competes with track. Sorry, I just don't buy the correlation. Soccer players do well in track & field when they are in Middle School but don't fare as well in HS - especially the girls. Track athletes are very specialized and soccer tends to be a more well-rounded athletic sport. Tell a track coach you play soccer and they automatically put you in distance races. Soccer is really a series of short sprints with short rest (HIIT) which has been proven as the ideal training model for fitness.

          The future of when soccer will finally arrive is uncertain. The one thing I think we can agree on is that eventually it will arrive and I believe it will bring access to sports to more kids than what is currently available. Think about it. You don't have to be tall, fast, strong, huge or nimble. Everyone of every size can excel at the game.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            It already is the most popular youth sport but once parents realize their little potbellied child isn't athletic enough for the sport they move them to a more suitable nonathletic sport like baseball.
            Spot on! It's incredible to see a youth soccer team next to a youth baseball team. Soccer players look like athletes while the baseball players look like competitive eaters.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Spot on! It's incredible to see a youth soccer team next to a youth baseball team. Soccer players look like athletes while the baseball players look like competitive eaters.
              Soccer is year round to keep the belly fat off!

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                #22
                in many FL counties even Students have to pay to attend home games in every sport.

                Football game are the cool thing to do Saturday night. The weekday soccer game is not

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  in many FL counties even Students have to pay to attend home games in every sport.

                  Football game are the cool thing to do Saturday night. The weekday soccer game is not
                  Concussions and CTD will change the football vs. soccer argument in high school very soon. When legendary, American football coach Mike Ditka was recently asked what impact the recent burst of attention paid to concussions will have on the game of football he replied "If I had an 8-year old son right now I would not let him play football. And that is very hard for me to say because I grew up playing and coaching football my entire life." Football will decline and soccer will increase in popularity as football is forced to take more and more violence out of the game and it becomes more boring to play and watch.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Concussions and CTD will change the football vs. soccer argument in high school very soon. When legendary, American football coach Mike Ditka was recently asked what impact the recent burst of attention paid to concussions will have on the game of football he replied "If I had an 8-year old son right now I would not let him play football. And that is very hard for me to say because I grew up playing and coaching football my entire life." Football will decline and soccer will increase in popularity as football is forced to take more and more violence out of the game and it becomes more boring to play and watch.
                    Completely disagree. Soccer is one of the worst sports for concussions...especially for girls. What will lead to a change is the changing face of America. The idea that soccer is a sport for privileged suburban kids is so out of line with the rest of the world that it is laughable.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Completely disagree. Soccer is one of the worst sports for concussions...especially for girls. What will lead to a change is the changing face of America. The idea that soccer is a sport for privileged suburban kids is so out of line with the rest of the world that it is laughable.
                      I don't necessarily disagree with the concussion issue, because my kid has been there done that (ok her sister gave her the concussion...) but seriously, football will decline. A huge segment of the population has already decided to NOT let their kids play that sport. We decided that 15 years ago because of the concussion issue. Perhaps kids will overflow to other sports, but in deciding soccer or football, hands down it is soccer that they choose. Any one with half a brain will stay away from football. Sorry our kids actually did have a brain in their youth, it was an easy decision.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I don't necessarily disagree with the concussion issue, because my kid has been there done that (ok her sister gave her the concussion...) but seriously, football will decline. A huge segment of the population has already decided to NOT let their kids play that sport. We decided that 15 years ago because of the concussion issue. Perhaps kids will overflow to other sports, but in deciding soccer or football, hands down it is soccer that they choose. Any one with half a brain will stay away from football. Sorry our kids actually did have a brain in their youth, it was an easy decision.
                        The interesting development to this would be if schools would adopt soccer as a spring sport. A kid could play football and soccer (assuming it does not conflict with spring football drills). Most football players run track in the spring, however, soccer is a much complimentary sport in training, conditioning and skill development. Of course the same could be said for Lacrosse in the spring. The only difference is most boys play one or the other as their primary sport and then play other sports in the off-season. Playing football and lacrosse is really tough on the body.

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                          #27
                          A kid should not play both soccer and football. These are concussion sports. Both are very dangerous in this regard, unless your kid might be the kicker or punter, where he will just be laughed at. Just kidding!

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                            #28
                            All divorced end in 13 years most due to pressure to explore new and exciting people.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The interesting development to this would be if schools would adopt soccer as a spring sport. A kid could play football and soccer (assuming it does not conflict with spring football drills). Most football players run track in the spring, however, soccer is a much complimentary sport in training, conditioning and skill development. Of course the same could be said for Lacrosse in the spring. The only difference is most boys play one or the other as their primary sport and then play other sports in the off-season. Playing football and lacrosse is really tough on the body.
                              You can't have school soccer in the Spring, it would conflict with club. That is why it is a winter sport.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Completely disagree. Soccer is one of the worst sports for concussions...especially for girls. What will lead to a change is the changing face of America. The idea that soccer is a sport for privileged suburban kids is so out of line with the rest of the world that it is laughable.
                                Huh, daughter has played for 7 years. In 7 years, in all the games and practices, only 2 girls suffered concussions. Not sure this is true "Soccer is one of the worst sports for concussions...especially for girls."

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