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The menís national team is awful.

The womenís national team is the best in the world.

Eddie who?
The menís national team is a joke. Eddie Johnson is a has been athlete.

Meanwhile the US women dominate world soccer.

Get back to selling cars Eddie.
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Well, he's not man enough to stand behind his tweet. He deleted it.
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The menís national team is a joke. Eddie Johnson is a has been athlete.

Meanwhile the US women dominate world soccer.

Get back to selling cars Eddie.
He's a personal coach/trainer, doesn't coach teams or is a member of NT staff. Take the opinion of a former pro player for what it is. How many former athletes are lousy coaches?

I will grant some of what he says is true, but it's not ECNL specific and applies to all of women's soccer. It isn't men's professional soccer like he played and never will be. GDA really isn't any better and won't keep us ahead of the international curve as USSF had desired. The rest of the world is catching up to us, but GDA won't keep us ahead. It's just another large watered down league that doesn't address the needs of the nation's top players.
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Well, he's not man enough to stand behind his tweet. He deleted it.
Maybe he realized half his potential private training customers were turned off by it lol
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Yes, listen to the ECNL trolls whining about EJ speaking truth.

Listen to them saying "he played for the USMNT, thus knows nothing about soccer", even though he has nothing to do with the current dumpster fire.

Even more ridiculous, look at them praising the USWNT for their recent World Cup win, as though ECNL has had anything to do with it. In reality, the USWNT agrees seems to with EJ, as they tend to avoid ECNL players. ECNL hacks will of whine that this is deliberate sabotage of a "rival" youth league (as though youth leagues are peers of the Federation's training platform), instead of what it really is--disregard for a league that focuses on college recruitment and which doesn't provide adequate training for international-level soccer. The USWNT does pick ECNL players, of course, but a whole lot of them are learning the wrong things from coaches who care more about winning and recruiting then they do about player development.
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Yes, listen to the ECNL trolls whining about EJ speaking truth.

Listen to them saying "he played for the USMNT, thus knows nothing about soccer", even though he has nothing to do with the current dumpster fire.

Even more ridiculous, look at them praising the USWNT for their recent World Cup win, as though ECNL has had anything to do with it. In reality, the USWNT agrees seems to with EJ, as they tend to avoid ECNL players. ECNL hacks will of whine that this is deliberate sabotage of a "rival" youth league (as though youth leagues are peers of the Federation's training platform), instead of what it really is--disregard for a league that focuses on college recruitment and which doesn't provide adequate training for international-level soccer. The USWNT does pick ECNL players, of course, but a whole lot of them are learning the wrong things from coaches who care more about winning and recruiting then they do about player development.
Those pesky facts ruining your rant again:

"...they tend to avoid ECNL players." Yes, that's true until they are in college and no longer on an ECNL team, and then suddenly, magically, they become good enough to make a national team roster. See Katie Duong from Oregon.

"ECNL hacks will of (?) whine that this is deliberate sabotage of a "rival" youth league." It is. Unless you think Duong went from being not good enough to make a national team roster to suddenly improving from a year of playing for U Minnesota's 3-12 team.

"The USWNT does pick ECNL players, of course, but a whole lot of them are learning the wrong things from coaches who care more about winning and recruiting then they do about player development." Well sure. There are bad coaches in every league. But tell me - where do you think those GDA coaches came from? The magical talent pool of coaches who only GDA programs have access to?

To further that point, current Thorns coaches are:

Laura Schott - came from Eastside United/college ranks.
Chris Thurley - came from Westside and - fun fact - was a HUGE outspoken opponent of academy teams right up until the moment they hired him and started paying his salary.
Tracy Nelson - came from Lake Oswego SC and community college.
Linus Rhode - came from Oregon State and prior to that coached at a very small OYSA club in Eugene.
Kat Tarr - came from Washington Timbers/Concordia
Cole McCool - came from THUSC/Linfield
Steven Evans - came from Westside
Cony Konstin - need I say more?

Of all the flawed logic you tried to employ in your post, making the argument that the GDA coaches are somehow magically more talented/have better intentions than ECNL or state league coaches is laughable. Nice try though.
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Those pesky facts ruining your rant again:

"...they tend to avoid ECNL players." Yes, that's true until they are in college and no longer on an ECNL team, and then suddenly, magically, they become good enough to make a national team roster. See Katie Duong from Oregon.

"ECNL hacks will of (?) whine that this is deliberate sabotage of a "rival" youth league." It is. Unless you think Duong went from being not good enough to make a national team roster to suddenly improving from a year of playing for U Minnesota's 3-12 team.

"The USWNT does pick ECNL players, of course, but a whole lot of them are learning the wrong things from coaches who care more about winning and recruiting then they do about player development." Well sure. There are bad coaches in every league. But tell me - where do you think those GDA coaches came from? The magical talent pool of coaches who only GDA programs have access to?

To further that point, current Thorns coaches are:







Laura Schott - came from Eastside United/college ranks: put her time in the club ranks. Was below average at best at PSU.




Chris Thurley - came from Westside and - fun fact - was a HUGE outspoken opponent of academy teams right up until the moment they hired him and started paying his salary.

The only legit club coach. Was really good in his day. Whether or not he cares now is up for debate.


Tracy Nelson - came from Lake Oswego SC and community college.

About as vanilla as you can get. Did well in the CC ranks but doesnít speak well to youth development.


Linus Rhode - came from Oregon State and prior to that coached at a very small OYSA club in Eugene.

Coached at Mackenzie United? We all saw what Oregon state was....



Kat Tarr - came from Washington Timbers/Concordia

Ever coached youth at all? Not one successful youth team and I doubt she is even involved at Concordia.


Cole McCool - came from THUSC/Linfield


Another no namer with no success to speak of.



Steven Evans - came from Westside

Coached boys youth teams and not a lot to be said yet about him.

Cony Konstin - need I say more?

True.

Of all the flawed logic you tried to employ in your post, making the argument that the GDA coaches are somehow magically more talented/have better intentions than ECNL or state league coaches is laughable. Nice try though.
Whoever tried to say da coaches are good need to be re-evaluated for honesty.
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Those pesky facts ruining your rant again:

"...they tend to avoid ECNL players." Yes, that's true until they are in college and no longer on an ECNL team, and then suddenly, magically, they become good enough to make a national team roster. See Katie Duong from Oregon.

"ECNL hacks will of (?) whine that this is deliberate sabotage of a "rival" youth league." It is. Unless you think Duong went from being not good enough to make a national team roster to suddenly improving from a year of playing for U Minnesota's 3-12 team.

"The USWNT does pick ECNL players, of course, but a whole lot of them are learning the wrong things from coaches who care more about winning and recruiting then they do about player development." Well sure. There are bad coaches in every league. But tell me - where do you think those GDA coaches came from? The magical talent pool of coaches who only GDA programs have access to?

To further that point, current Thorns coaches are:

Laura Schott - came from Eastside United/college ranks.
Chris Thurley - came from Westside and - fun fact - was a HUGE outspoken opponent of academy teams right up until the moment they hired him and started paying his salary.
Tracy Nelson - came from Lake Oswego SC and community college.
Linus Rhode - came from Oregon State and prior to that coached at a very small OYSA club in Eugene.
Kat Tarr - came from Washington Timbers/Concordia
Cole McCool - came from THUSC/Linfield
Steven Evans - came from Westside
Cony Konstin - need I say more?

Of all the flawed logic you tried to employ in your post, making the argument that the GDA coaches are somehow magically more talented/have better intentions than ECNL or state league coaches is laughable. Nice try though.
Damn. Throw some chum in the water, look what comes swimming around the boat.

Note that the comment was about ECNL in general, not about any of the local clubs in particular. Thorns Academy isn't great, particularly below U19, where it's basically another pay-to-play club trying to recruit an already-thin local talent pool.

Besides. It ain't as though Sir Alex Ferguson has come out of retirement to coach CU. If you think the soccer bums at that program are materially better, then you really are pulling our Legg....
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When I watch the US Men's National Team

"I cannot believe someone chose these players to represent the US. Some of them are technically skilled, but they have no creativity. They all look miserable to be there. They are boring. They are not effective. They are not fun. They get beat by teams from countries that are the size of Tacoma. It feels like punishment to watch them. Please make it stop. USSF should be ashamed of this miserable team"

This is the BEST reply EVER.
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Damn. Throw some chum in the water, look what comes swimming around the boat.

Note that the comment was about ECNL in general, not about any of the local clubs in particular. Thorns Academy isn't great, particularly below U19, where it's basically another pay-to-play club trying to recruit an already-thin local talent pool.

Besides. It ain't as though Sir Alex Ferguson has come out of retirement to coach CU. If you think the soccer bums at that program are materially better, then you really are pulling our Legg....
I guess since you didnít even attempt to dispute a single fact in my post you are conceding Iím correct. Big of you. And in typical TS fashion your only response is ďOh yeah! Youíre just as bad!Ē

Except my kid never did ecnl or academy. We didnít fall for either crewís snake oil. That being said Eddie is full of poo. GDA has produced a product so laughably weak in spite of stacking the deck in their favor in virtually every way possible. No one has any room to criticize. When you make your program virtually free in some cases, and you rig the system so the only path to youth national teams is through your program, and you STILL canít corner the market? You have a poo product.
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