FYSA Poaching rule reminder for all

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LOL. You have made an old rich man laugh. Nothing more dangerous than wealth in the hands of a bored old man with death near. We will do this for my grandson and every child whose dreams you take advantage of every day. I will not respond to this post anymore. Glad my son brought it to my attention though. Good cause.

Our little girls at OCYS can use your help too. We have been discriminated against boys of same age and same team level. except they get more training than us for the same fee.
Our club does not follow any of the USYS or Us Club guidelines and FYSA just not interested in player development through following their own affiliation guidelines.

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FYSA Poaching rule reminder for al

There is one thing that I'm not sure you understand . . . FYSA doesn't create the rules. The rules are written by the member clubs and have evolved over the years. Each year leading up to the FYSA AGM (Annual General Meeting usually held at the end of July/beginning of August), all member clubs have the ability to submit new rules or modifications of current rules. Those are distributed to all member clubs and then at the AGM, the members review, opine, proposed modifications, etc. and then votes on each proposed rule change/modification. If the current poaching rules are a hot button for you, then get with your club administration and propose rule changes or modifications for the next AGM.

Which is exactly the reason why this issue needs to be addressed by a court of law and the media. The "member clubs" are a business, pure and simple. A business involved in a multi million dollar industry whose objective is not the welfare of children but to increase its profit margin. I will not insult your intelligence by explaining to you how these "member clubs" are formed, by whom and how only a handful of "members" get to actually control the club and more importantly, its treasury. Why on earth would these clubs vote to end a system that is making them a lot of money?.

What you are suggesting sir is that we continue to allow the wolves to guard the sheep. It is time to hire a sheepdog.

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Which is exactly the reason why this issue needs to be addressed by a court of law and the media. The "member clubs" are a business, pure and simple. A business involved in a multi million dollar industry whose objective is not the welfare of children but to increase its profit margin. I will not insult your intelligence by explaining to you how these "member clubs" are formed, by whom and how only a handful of "members" get to actually control the club and more importantly, its treasury. Why on earth would these clubs vote to end a system that is making them a lot of money?.

What you are suggesting sir is that we continue to allow the wolves to guard the sheep. It is time to hire a sheepdog.

We at FYSA see a lot of ramblings like this every day! Who cares what you think. You are living in a fantasy land and just keep dreaming!!!

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Which is exactly the reason why this issue needs to be addressed by a court of law and the media. The "member clubs" are a business, pure and simple. A business involved in a multi million dollar industry whose objective is not the welfare of children but to increase its profit margin. I will not insult your intelligence by explaining to you how these "member clubs" are formed, by whom and how only a handful of "members" get to actually control the club and more importantly, its treasury. Why on earth would these clubs vote to end a system that is making them a lot of money?.

What you are suggesting sir is that we continue to allow the wolves to guard the sheep. It is time to hire a sheepdog.

Nobody force anyone to play soccer. you can go to the Y and play for almost nothing (you get nothing) The problem here is those "prostitute" parents that every year take their kids to a different club looking for that $ 5.00 medal because to them winning is everything.

Why is the poaching rule important?

Coaches and parents try every year to still the best players from other teams

Teams make commitments to tournaments, state cup, etc few month in advance. Then when the season is right in the middle, you lose the best player to another team. Now you already made an investment, it is too late to withdraw your team. What do you do now?
Fysa has a rule (rule # 203) about commitment and until the parents don’t teach that to their kids, you need some type of rule to protect the team.

203. PLAYER REGISTRATION
A competitive and or recreational player is obligated to his/her team for the seasonal year from the time he/she signs a contract or is rostered to a team until the end of the current seasonal year.

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FYSA Poaching rule reminder for all

Nobody force anyone to play soccer. you can go to the Y and play for almost nothing (you get nothing) The problem here is those "prostitute" parents that every year take their kids to a different club looking for that $ 5.00 medal because to them winning is everything.

Why is the poaching rule important?

Coaches and parents try every year to still the best players from other teams

Teams make commitments to tournaments, state cup, etc few month in advance. Then when the season is right in the middle, you lose the best player to another team. Now you already made an investment, it is too late to withdraw your team. What do you do now?
Fysa has a rule (rule # 203) about commitment and until the parents don’t teach that to their kids, you need some type of rule to protect the team.

203. PLAYER REGISTRATION
A competitive and or recreational player is obligated to his/her team for the seasonal year from the time he/she signs a contract or is rostered to a team until the end of the current seasonal year.

Try reading Charles Darwin. The only thing that rules like these achieve is guaranteeing that U.S. Soccer will remain what it is, an international joke. The best want to play with the best and for the best. The weak should get out of the way and join the Y. The problem of course is that there are far more weak players than strong so that is where the money is. That is what feeds FYSA. Commitment to excellence is painful. Teaching our kids to accept mediocracy in soccer or in school is hurting our country. FYSA breeds weakness and needs to go away.

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FYSA Poaching rule reminder for all

We at FYSA see a lot of ramblings like this every day! Who cares what you think. You are living in a fantasy land and just keep dreaming!!!

If I am not mistaken, I think that is what Marie Antoinette said on her way to the gallows. Right before the cake comment.

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JO who is now DOC of WFF west campus was suspended for a year after Chargers brought poaching charges to FYSA this was several years ago though . TBU are currently going after the two DOCs at WFF Liverpool .

And TBU lost that case.

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Poaching rules, where the player/parent pays to play the sport? If a parent wants to pull their child and go somewhere else, then they should be free to do so, once their financial obligations are paid up. Waste of time

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Just say your recruiting for US club team then it's okay . That's why NPL ENCL DA Pre DA and Super Y can have tryouts whenever they want .

True. Early back door offers are made every year.

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The best players are playing in USClub soccer leagues not FYSA so who cares

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The best players are playing in USClub soccer leagues not FYSA so who cares

Some of us claim the best female players are in the US Club Soccer ECNL and the best male players are in the US Soccer Federation DA program.

In any event, while FYSA poaching rules do not apply to US Club Soccer or to the US Soccer Federation, clubs still register their US Club Soccer and USSF players with FYSA in order to prevent players from leaving before they have paid what is owed.

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The best players are playing in USClub soccer leagues not FYSA so who cares

what is even crazier is the teams who are registered in many leagues.. FPL, CDL, R3PL, and local FYSA league. This is much travel on many of the youth and all for what..to win State Cup and Region?

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401.5 POACHING
There is to be NO improper contact between the prospective team and the player/parents of currently
registered and/or rostered players. Any coach or member of a team having contact with a player after a
player is registered and/or rostered, without first obtaining written permission from that player’s coach,
will be construed as having had improper contact with a player, and such action can result in a charge of
poaching.
1. Improper contact is defined as any communication with a player other than the most casual, cordial
communication necessary such as congratulations at the end of a match or similar such conversations.
This contact specifically includes, but is not limited to, players participating in practices, training
sessions, scrimmages or other soccer-related functions.
2. Improper contact shall also include, but is not limited to, meetings with players/parents, attendance at
team social functions when the player is not registered to that team, etc.
3. Any such improper contact, no matter how generated, is prohibited without prior written notification
and written consent of the player’s current head coach, the club director of coaching and/or players, or
the Agent of Record of the club to which the player is currently registered and/or rostered. A
coach/volunteer or member of a team having contact with a player is charged with the knowledge of
that player’s registration and/or roster status and shall be held accountable for any unauthorized
contact with any player currently not rostered to his team, regardless of how that contact is initiated or
by whom.
A. No coach, assistant coach, trainer, team representative, registered player, parent or advertisement may
offer any kind of inducement to recruit a player and/or to transfer from his/her respective team, during
the seasonal year as defined September 1 though August 31.
Inducing a player includes, but is not limited solicitation to leave the current affiliate, offering a
currently rostered player a roster spot on an existing team, or a roster spot for the next seasonal year.
Coaches are responsible for the actions of the all of the above listed participants of their team.

B. Players:
All currently registered players shall become free agents at the completion of FYSA’s State Cup Final
Four or elimination from National Championship Competitions (whichever is later) or at a date as
may be set by the BOD.

Poaching is bad

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Poaching is bad

Liberals must have came up with the poaching rule. A free market, capitalism, and competition has alway made things better for the customer.

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Do you know how many actual poaching charges have been brought since this rule went into effect?

Recently Tom Power of Jupiter United is suspended for 13 months for poaching. He is currently coaching under US soccer during his suspension time that ends late next year.