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    For those who were unaware, one of the oldest Thanksgiving Football rivalry in the US ended in a bench clearing brawl.
    Clearly, there is plenty of blame that goes around.

    We can start with:
    1. Taunting by the Wellesley players who were soundly beating Needham
    2. The first punch by a Needham player over the taunting.

    We can stop there, but since these are high school kids, it is more evident that they are taught and/or learn how to behave like this.

    First, this is not about a score. It is about 'in-your-face' behavior. Celebrate a score or great play? Absolutely!!! But celebrate and congratulate your teammate. There is no need get in the face of the other team.....unless your goal is to provoke a response. The ignorance of the Wellesley players is that they didn't even consider the consequences, but only the arrogance of the moment.

    Second, it is about the arrogant and snobbish upbringing of these players to think that their actions have no consequences. This, I blame their parents for, but more so the trend in society that refuses to hold individuals accountable for their actions, calling everything a systems errors.

    How to respond to this? Banning of those immediate players from scholastic play and ? banning from 2020 post season play.

    Recently two Martha's Vinyard players attacked a ref after losing in the post season. Those two players have been banned from scholastic sports for a year. This is an appropriate response.

    It is important to send a real message that everyone can hear and understand.

    I have no issue with celebrations.....but do it in a positive manner. Do some flips!! Jump around!! Run to your fans!! There is no need to degrade, embarrass, or ridicule the other players/team.

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    For those who were unaware, one of the oldest Thanksgiving Football rivalry in the US ended in a bench clearing brawl.
    Clearly, there is plenty of blame that goes around.

    We can start with:
    1. Taunting by the Wellesley players who were soundly beating Needham
    2. The first punch by a Needham player over the taunting.

    We can stop there, but since these are high school kids, it is more evident that they are taught and/or learn how to behave like this.

    First, this is not about a score. It is about 'in-your-face' behavior. Celebrate a score or great play? Absolutely!!! But celebrate and congratulate your teammate. There is no need get in the face of the other team.....unless your goal is to provoke a response. The ignorance of the Wellesley players is that they didn't even consider the consequences, but only the arrogance of the moment.

    Second, it is about the arrogant and snobbish upbringing of these players to think that their actions have no consequences. This, I blame their parents for, but more so the trend in society that refuses to hold individuals accountable for their actions, calling everything a systems errors.

    How to respond to this? Banning of those immediate players from scholastic play and ? banning from 2020 post season play.

    Recently two Martha's Vinyard players attacked a ref after losing in the post season. Those two players have been banned from scholastic sports for a year. This is an appropriate response.

    It is important to send a real message that everyone can hear and understand.

    I have no issue with celebrations.....but do it in a positive manner. Do some flips!! Jump around!! Run to your fans!! There is no need to degrade, embarrass, or ridicule the other players/team.

    Wellesley also had issues on the baseball field last spring with sportsmanship. They won’t be winning the MIAA sportsmanship award any time soon.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      For those who were unaware, one of the oldest Thanksgiving Football rivalry in the US ended in a bench clearing brawl.
      Clearly, there is plenty of blame that goes around.

      We can start with:
      1. Taunting by the Wellesley players who were soundly beating Needham
      2. The first punch by a Needham player over the taunting.

      We can stop there, but since these are high school kids, it is more evident that they are taught and/or learn how to behave like this.

      First, this is not about a score. It is about 'in-your-face' behavior. Celebrate a score or great play? Absolutely!!! But celebrate and congratulate your teammate. There is no need get in the face of the other team.....unless your goal is to provoke a response. The ignorance of the Wellesley players is that they didn't even consider the consequences, but only the arrogance of the moment.

      Second, it is about the arrogant and snobbish upbringing of these players to think that their actions have no consequences. This, I blame their parents for, but more so the trend in society that refuses to hold individuals accountable for their actions, calling everything a systems errors.

      How to respond to this? Banning of those immediate players from scholastic play and ? banning from 2020 post season play.

      Recently two Martha's Vinyard players attacked a ref after losing in the post season. Those two players have been banned from scholastic sports for a year. This is an appropriate response.

      It is important to send a real message that everyone can hear and understand.

      I have no issue with celebrations.....but do it in a positive manner. Do some flips!! Jump around!! Run to your fans!! There is no need to degrade, embarrass, or ridicule the other players/team.
      “Taught and/or learn”
      All you need to do is read the last few pages of postings on the 07 thread and you’ll see from whence it springs...

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Wellesley also had issues on the baseball field last spring with sportsmanship. They won’t be winning the MIAA sportsmanship award any time soon.

        Wellesley absolutely has a track record of this behavior. Money can't buy class.

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          #5
          Money can't buy class.[/QUOTE]

          Fitchburg v. Leominster also ended in a bench clearing brawl, they called the game and didn't finish. You don't hear about that one though because it doesn't advance the liberal agenda that those with money should be punished.

          Money has nothing to do with it, society in general is a wasteland of morals and values.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Wellesley absolutely has a track record of this behavior. Money can't buy class.
            Wellesley starts with the BS at the youngest of the youth level in all sports and it continues through HS.
            Win at all cost mentality and learn to become a sociopath along the way. It's been that way for at least 40 years.
            Agree on the money, Needham has as much money as Wellesley, if not more.

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              #7
              It's public school what do you expect? A private school would expel or suspend the players.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                For those who were unaware, one of the oldest Thanksgiving Football rivalry in the US ended in a bench clearing brawl.
                Clearly, there is plenty of blame that goes around.

                We can start with:
                1. Taunting by the Wellesley players who were soundly beating Needham
                2. The first punch by a Needham player over the taunting.

                We can stop there, but since these are high school kids, it is more evident that they are taught and/or learn how to behave like this.

                First, this is not about a score. It is about 'in-your-face' behavior. Celebrate a score or great play? Absolutely!!! But celebrate and congratulate your teammate. There is no need get in the face of the other team.....unless your goal is to provoke a response. The ignorance of the Wellesley players is that they didn't even consider the consequences, but only the arrogance of the moment.

                Second, it is about the arrogant and snobbish upbringing of these players to think that their actions have no consequences. This, I blame their parents for, but more so the trend in society that refuses to hold individuals accountable for their actions, calling everything a systems errors.

                How to respond to this? Banning of those immediate players from scholastic play and ? banning from 2020 post season play.

                Recently two Martha's Vinyard players attacked a ref after losing in the post season. Those two players have been banned from scholastic sports for a year. This is an appropriate response.

                It is important to send a real message that everyone can hear and understand.

                I have no issue with celebrations.....but do it in a positive manner. Do some flips!! Jump around!! Run to your fans!! There is no need to degrade, embarrass, or ridicule the other players/team.
                What do you want next-“thank you for scoring a touchdown on us”
                You weenies can’t stand the thought of a fight.
                Maybe we should supply “emotional well-being” dogs so nobody feels bad
                When will it end!
                Watch West Side Story

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Wellesley starts with the BS at the youngest of the youth level in all sports and it continues through HS.
                  Win at all cost mentality and learn to become a sociopath along the way. It's been that way for at least 40 years.
                  Agree on the money, Needham has as much money as Wellesley, if not more.
                  you were good until the last line.
                  Depending on your source:
                  Family income for Wellesley is approximately 186,000
                  Family income for Needham is approximately 160,000

                  Wellesley is #6 in the state and Needham is #16

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._capita_income

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    What do you want next-“thank you for scoring a touchdown on us”
                    You weenies can’t stand the thought of a fight.
                    Maybe we should supply “emotional well-being” dogs so nobody feels bad
                    When will it end!
                    Watch West Side Story
                    You are bass-ackwards
                    No one is even suggesting not to celebrate, however, if you want to rub it into the faces of the other team, then this is what happens.

                    West Side Story? That is what you want to refer to? Don't get me wrong. It was/is a great show. A story of racial divide which ended in a fight with knives that, ultimately everyone regretted and realized that dancing and loving one another would have been the better way.

                    So, you would prefer the two teams have a dance-off in the middle of the field?
                    By the way, there was no cursing in the play.

                    Which one of us is the weenie??

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      you were good until the last line.
                      Depending on your source:
                      Family income for Wellesley is approximately 186,000
                      Family income for Needham is approximately 160,000

                      Wellesley is #6 in the state and Needham is #16

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._capita_income
                      #16 is still very, very high. This isn't about #6 vs #143.

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                        #12
                        Where is the MIAA? Or since, it's the last game of the season all the players, coaches and AD's get a free pass.

                        This is what happens when kids play a sport that pretty much ends on Turkey Day. Not may over the hill football leagues.

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