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    #16
    Its not about finding athletes to play soccer. Its about finding good soccer players ... regardless of athletic performance. They have to be good soccer players to begin with. You want a team full of Pullisics' or a team full of Altidores'? Yeah, if Bo Jackson would have played soccer ... he would have been a fast soccer player, no doubt. BUT would he have been a great soccer player? Who knows...its ridiculous to infer that Bo Jackson would have been a Pele ... when he could have just been another Altidore. You have to be a good soccer player first ... a good athelete second.

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      #17
      Originally posted by unregistered View Post
      the best soccer player in the world is not the best athlete in the world. The best soccer player in the world is smaller than the smallest of nfl running backs. The best soccer player in the world is not this mutant athlete. You don't need to jump high, run fast, throw the ball 90+ mph, nor have the strength to lift a small car. The best soccer player in the world is 5'7", 145 pounds, and would run a 40 in the 4.7 range...or as fast as say a slow nfl tight end.

      To be good a soccer you have to be good at soccer. Deon sanders would be a fast soccer player ... Among the fastest. That doesn't mean he'd be a good soccer player. You have a twisted vision of what makes for a good soccer player.
      no **** you are talking about one man out of billions dumb

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        #18
        Originally posted by unregistered View Post
        its not about finding athletes to play soccer. Its about finding good soccer players ... Regardless of athletic performance. They have to be good soccer players to begin with. You want a team full of pullisics' or a team full of altidores'? Yeah, if bo jackson would have played soccer ... He would have been a fast soccer player, no doubt. But would he have been a great soccer player? Who knows...its ridiculous to infer that bo jackson would have been a pele ... When he could have just been another altidore. You have to be a good soccer player first ... A good athelete second.
        so your are saying you are just born to be a soccer player you either have it at birth or not stupid

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          #19
          Originally posted by unregistered View Post
          no **** you are talking about one man out of billions dumb
          it did not help that pulisic parents both played and coached soccer at an elite level ?

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            #20
            Originally posted by unregistered View Post
            its not about finding athletes to play soccer. Its about finding good soccer players ... Regardless of athletic performance. They have to be good soccer players to begin with. You want a team full of pullisics' or a team full of altidores'? Yeah, if bo jackson would have played soccer ... He would have been a fast soccer player, no doubt. But would he have been a great soccer player? Who knows...its ridiculous to infer that bo jackson would have been a pele ... When he could have just been another altidore. You have to be a good soccer player first ... A good athelete second.
            at age 5 you can tell how is going to be an elite soccer player baseball basketball your are crazy

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Top ten paid players:
              3 basketball
              5 soccer
              1 golfer
              1 boxer
              Take the 5 foreign soccer players out and there will not be one American soccer player on that list - a few baseball players would join the list most likely. Are they the best athletes?

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I Messi does not have the top end speed, but he does have elite balance and acceleration as well as very high-end agility. It is key to his game, the start and stop quickness and his ability to navigate traffic. When he takes a quick step, he has most player beaten. In the world of soccer he has elite speed, so does Pulisic, Renaldo, Bale...all have elite speed in comparison to the players they play against.

                Here is the thing, no one is saying take an NFL player or a football player and try to make them a soccer player, but if kids started to play and care about soccer, in the same way, the US and our considerable amount of freak athletes would eventually catch up to the world and dominate. Can you imagine taking these freak athletes and putting a ball on their foot at age 5 and having them play every day the way they do football and basketball. Shiiiiiit, No one in the world would be able to compete.

                I know it has little to do with you, but most football players train year round for their sport.
                The poster makes an important point - KIDS need to care about soccer. I think a lot of it has to do with who the kids look up to - many of the best young athletes don't live in houses where dad is watching soccer - Dad is watching LeBron or Brady. The Kid has a Suh jersey, not a Messi jersey. It is not just reasonable to expect that kid to commit to soccer - it isn't "cool" or the "in" sport. Without that admiration for the sport's best players, its had to get the kid to commit the time. American kids want to be like Mike, not Messi.

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                  #23
                  best athletes

                  Top 10 world class soccer players that would not be great athletes in the in the United States, and if these players would have been born in the United States we probably would not know their names

                  1) Lionel Messi no
                  2) Luis Suarez no
                  3) CR7 yes
                  4) Neymar no
                  5) Bale yes
                  6) Griezmann no
                  7) Iniesta for sure no
                  8) Neuer yes
                  9) Busquets no for sure
                  10) Pogba yes
                  this is not my list, just one that I googled.....

                  Look up pictures of these players in their teens, ask yourself if they were bigger, faster, stronger
                  6 of the top 10 would have been considered very much nonathletic they may not have been considered in our country.... we don't need great athletes we need great soccer players, look up Tom Byer.... read about him...... Thomas Rongen wrote a great piece you need to read....

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    wrong an athlete is an athlete
                    Let me sum it up for everyone. According to this individual a gymnast needs the same set of skills, knowledge, power, endurance and agility as does a weightlifter.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The best soccer player in the world is not the best athlete in the world. The best soccer player in the world is smaller than the smallest of NFL running backs. The best soccer player in the world is not this mutant athlete. You don't need to jump high, run fast, throw the ball 90+ MPH, nor have the strength to lift a small car. The best soccer player in the world is 5'7", 145 pounds, and would run a 40 in the 4.7 range...or as fast as say a slow NFL tight end.

                      To be good a soccer you have to be good at soccer. Deon Sanders would be a fast soccer player ... among the fastest. That doesn't mean he'd be a good soccer player. You have a twisted vision of what makes for a good soccer player.
                      Correct.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The poster makes an important point - KIDS need to care about soccer. I think a lot of it has to do with who the kids look up to - many of the best young athletes don't live in houses where dad is watching soccer - Dad is watching LeBron or Brady. The Kid has a Suh jersey, not a Messi jersey. It is not just reasonable to expect that kid to commit to soccer - it isn't "cool" or the "in" sport. Without that admiration for the sport's best players, its had to get the kid to commit the time. American kids want to be like Mike, not Messi.
                        Culture absolutely is a big part of it. You gravitate to the sports you like, your family likes, your friends play. Take a look at the make up of the NBA or NFL - let's just say the majority are not coming from passionate soccer families. Totally agree with above as well - yes great athletes typically play multiple sports very well, but they usually truly shine at one. Usually it is the sport that has them hooked, practicing at the playground, backyard, basement ALL THE TIME. That's how they becoming outstanding at that sport

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          the fact is the best athletes in America do not play soccer.
                          why?
                          travel da too expensive
                          look what a pro football, baseball, basketball player makes compared to MLS
                          scholarship easier for other sports.
                          look at division 1 soccer rosters more than half team from Europe
                          soccer not as popular as other sports in usa
                          imagine if some of the nfl athletes played soccer instead of american football?
                          1. when all the boys $ in college is about other sports, of course they don't.
                          2. Parents never played
                          3. friends have no interest in watching their games
                          4. cost is too much
                          5. games are boring compared to other sports they can play
                          6. they want to play the sports they watch on tv

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                            #28
                            I can tell you this having been around travel soccer and travel basketball for a few years now with two kids. A lot more is allowed on the sidelines from parents in soccer than basketball. you get tossed from basketball for doing very little, you dare to scream something to a player from the stands, you dare to scream or try to embarrass the ref, you are gone!

                            I see on travel BB a lot of kids migrating from soccer to basketball be age 12-13 but I dont see the other way around. there are athletic kids on both sports but better coaching and competition all over in BB, you dont need to travel 4 hrs to play great competition in Basketball

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                              #29
                              Give it time. The culture in the USA is changing, and more and more kids will consider soccer their number one sport. My kid does and he doesn't care for football or basketball on TV. He was born here but I wasn't. South Florida is full of families like this...and we're gradually moving north.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Top 10 world class soccer players that would not be great athletes in the in the United States, and if these players would have been born in the United States we probably would not know their names

                                1) Lionel Messi no
                                2) Luis Suarez no
                                3) CR7 yes
                                4) Neymar no
                                5) Bale yes
                                6) Griezmann no
                                7) Iniesta for sure no
                                8) Neuer yes
                                9) Busquets no for sure
                                10) Pogba yes
                                this is not my list, just one that I googled.....

                                Look up pictures of these players in their teens, ask yourself if they were bigger, faster, stronger
                                6 of the top 10 would have been considered very much nonathletic they may not have been considered in our country.... we don't need great athletes we need great soccer players, look up Tom Byer.... read about him...... Thomas Rongen wrote a great piece you need to read....
                                Uh huh, same old narrative. Only super athletic kids get to play soccer and the non-athletic ones (who are all more skilled and would be far better soccer players if given the chance) are allowed to play and progress.

                                And this belief funds the theory that your kid wasn't chosen for the "A" team because of this natural discrimination. It's something you need to cling to at your core in order to deal with your own frustration.

                                So have at it bro.

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