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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSpot on. The DA is system isn't perfect and needs to improve, but it only one component.
Scrapping it entirely is a huge step back.
Boys are not like girls. Many still develop past 18.
The men's soccer collegiate system is very poor.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI second this. Spot on 100%. The problem is at ages of 17-22. There needs to be a feasible second tier or third tier option for players to continue to develop their game.
Boys are not like girls. Many still develop past 18.
The men's soccer collegiate system is very poor.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSpot on. The DA is system isn't perfect and needs to improve, but it only one component.
Scrapping it entirely is a huge step back.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBoth these posts are true. The DA system needs to continue to evolve, though, without a doubt. Needs better coaching. More subsidized clubs / academies. Less good old boy system and more objective talent evaluation.
Blah blah blah...... the players that lost the World Cup chance arent even from the da system with the exception of a couple. This is the opportunity that some are going to take to condemn our da system. When those products play then please condemn the system. The boys that lost last night mostly came from the old club system and college programs. Whose to blame?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBoth these posts are true. The DA system needs to continue to evolve, though, without a doubt. Needs better coaching. More subsidized clubs / academies. Less good old boy system and more objective talent evaluation.
Then what?
Where do these hundreds of top level u17/u18 kids go? Where do they play? College? MLS? USL? Where?
If the answer is still college for 90% of them, and college doesn't improve from what we have now (it will not, no $$ for the NCAA) you have accomplished nothing from the USMNT perspective.
There should be a pathway for kids to continue to develop until 22, not 17.
but here's the real problem: other than this board, XM Soccer, a 5-second segment on the dan Patrick show, no one seems to care. this nation cares more about 300 lb Neanderthals causing permanent damage to their brains on their "fantasy" teams that about improving the men's national team in the world's most popular sport. Panama took the day off - a national holiday - bc they qualified. maybe we get what we deserve. sad for the hundreds of thousands of kids and adults that love this sport deeply, but there are tens of millions that care more about their fantasy team.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhich NCAA rule do you violate? If you do not play in a professional league game or get paid you can still play D1, NAIA You can play D2 if at time of enrollment you are not still playing in the professional league and you are allowed to have received a salary for playing. D3 same as D2 but you can not have received a salary.
But, if your goal is to play professional college is not the route. DA's goal is not to develop players to play in college. The goal is to develop professional and national league players.
Not really much of a difference then colleges getting paid by Nike and sports networks if you think about it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI totally agree, but here's the point: assume you get DA right and it's a great level of competition producing good players. Assume all you want to come true about DA does come true.
Then what?
Where do these hundreds of top level u17/u18 kids go? Where do they play? College? MLS? USL? Where?
If the answer is still college for 90% of them, and college doesn't improve from what we have now (it will not, no $$ for the NCAA) you have accomplished nothing from the USMNT perspective.
There should be a pathway for kids to continue to develop until 22, not 17.
but here's the real problem: other than this board, XM Soccer, a 5-second segment on the dan Patrick show, no one seems to care. this nation cares more about 300 lb Neanderthals causing permanent damage to their brains on their "fantasy" teams that about improving the men's national team in the world's most popular sport. Panama took the day off - a national holiday - bc they qualified. maybe we get what we deserve. sad for the hundreds of thousands of kids and adults that love this sport deeply, but there are tens of millions that care more about their fantasy team.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBlah blah blah...... the players that lost the World Cup chance arent even from the da system with the exception of a couple. This is the opportunity that some are going to take to condemn our da system. When those products play then please condemn the system. The boys that lost last night mostly came from the old club system and college programs. Whose to blame?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI totally agree, but here's the point: assume you get DA right and it's a great level of competition producing good players. Assume all you want to come true about DA does come true.
Then what?
Where do these hundreds of top level u17/u18 kids go? Where do they play? College? MLS? USL? Where?
If the answer is still college for 90% of them, and college doesn't improve from what we have now (it will not, no $$ for the NCAA) you have accomplished nothing from the USMNT perspective.
There should be a pathway for kids to continue to develop until 22, not 17.
but here's the real problem: other than this board, XM Soccer, a 5-second segment on the dan Patrick show, no one seems to care. this nation cares more about 300 lb Neanderthals causing permanent damage to their brains on their "fantasy" teams that about improving the men's national team in the world's most popular sport. Panama took the day off - a national holiday - bc they qualified. maybe we get what we deserve. sad for the hundreds of thousands of kids and adults that love this sport deeply, but there are tens of millions that care more about their fantasy team.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAnd this would never happen because 99% of the players are going to college and this would be a violation of the ncaa. I’m telling you....MLS owners are not seeing the ROI on the DA teams they are funding and it could get killed off because they can’t sell the players. America is not the same passion for Soccer and the parents wants kids to go to college
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI totally agree, but here's the point: assume you get DA right and it's a great level of competition producing good players. Assume all you want to come true about DA does come true.
Then what?
Where do these hundreds of top level u17/u18 kids go? Where do they play? College? MLS? USL? Where?
If the answer is still college for 90% of them, and college doesn't improve from what we have now (it will not, no $$ for the NCAA) you have accomplished nothing from the USMNT perspective.
There should be a pathway for kids to continue to develop until 22, not 17.
but here's the real problem: other than this board, XM Soccer, a 5-second segment on the dan Patrick show, no one seems to care. this nation cares more about 300 lb Neanderthals causing permanent damage to their brains on their "fantasy" teams that about improving the men's national team in the world's most popular sport. Panama took the day off - a national holiday - bc they qualified. maybe we get what we deserve. sad for the hundreds of thousands of kids and adults that love this sport deeply, but there are tens of millions that care more about their fantasy team.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postthey do it is called USL and NASL.
USL could be and it's an interesting place to start. not sure how much say USSF has in what USL franchises might do. Many USL teams seem to prefer older internationals, taking a cue from the MLS.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNASL is not in the business of developing players. I don't see them taking on too many u18s from local DAs.
USL could be and it's an interesting place to start. not sure how much say USSF has in what USL franchises might do. Many USL teams seem to prefer older internationals, taking a cue from the MLS.
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