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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    England has put a renewed emphasis on their youth national teams. The results are starting to show. No whether that emphasis pays off for the full English national team. Only time will tell and it certainly can't hurt the full English results.

    Also England beat 3-1 Brazil which is one of the favorites. England on to the final
    Here are the English youth results from just 2017

    - U20 WC champs.
    - UEFA U21 semi-finalists. Toulon champs.
    - U17s lost in finals on PKs in European championship against Spain
    - finals of U17 WC.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      The rest of the world has the same exact model as us. If your kid cabt get a pro contract by 17 go to an American university. Is college really the problem at 18 uears old? If you cant get a pro contract by then should you sit home on your couch and wait? Loads of European and south American kids that can't make it as a pro also choose the college path ..... Maybe that is a better reflection if how difficult it is to be pro in anything.

      I’m not sure by the way you wrote this if you’re (a) A foreigner and you find English with it’s grammar a little difficult (b) replying quickly with an android phone which explains typo and writing grammar mistakes (c) just plain dumb and have no idea what you’re talking about or (d) All of the above + more.

      Sir, the Rest of the world does not have the same system as the US .
      If it’s college availability on Academics for all then Absolutely! But that’s not what we’re talking about.
      The majority of Europe for instance with secondary schooling ends around 15-16 , at that age you are free to pursue college or work, kids playing soccer in an Academy system will stay if they are not cut. Since 2011 England put into law a little bit of baggage to that requiring a 16 yr old to either go to college till 18 or work in some kinda apprenticeship program.

      There is literally no real competitive soccer program at the college level in England!! None! ... Oxford does not compete against Cambridge for soccer.
      Now if you were to mention Rugby, Cricket or something of the like then that might be different , but Oxford or any other college for that matter is not looking to recruit a Wayne Rooney to play for them and so goes every other country in Europe and South America.

      Here in the US The college process is impeding future Pro players, its main factor being a player and parents decision on taking the chance to fund the kids dream or choose a guaranteed 0-50k college scholarship.
      Parents who are well off or are of very low income is more likely to take the plung, while the ones in the middle have a lot to lose.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I’m not sure by the way you wrote this if you’re (a) A foreigner and you find English with it’s grammar a little difficult (b) replying quickly with an android phone which explains typo and writing grammar mistakes (c) just plain dumb and have no idea what you’re talking about or (d) All of the above + more.

        Sir, the Rest of the world does not have the same system as the US .
        If it’s college availability on Academics for all then Absolutely! But that’s not what we’re talking about.
        The majority of Europe for instance with secondary schooling ends around 15-16 , at that age you are free to pursue college or work, kids playing soccer in an Academy system will stay if they are not cut. Since 2011 England put into law a little bit of baggage to that requiring a 16 yr old to either go to college till 18 or work in some kinda apprenticeship program.

        There is literally no real competitive soccer program at the college level in England!! None! ... Oxford does not compete against Cambridge for soccer.
        Now if you were to mention Rugby, Cricket or something of the like then that might be different , but Oxford or any other college for that matter is not looking to recruit a Wayne Rooney to play for them and so goes every other country in Europe and South America.

        Here in the US The college process is impeding future Pro players, its main factor being a player and parents decision on taking the chance to fund the kids dream or choose a guaranteed 0-50k college scholarship.
        Parents who are well off or are of very low income is more likely to take the plung, while the ones in the middle have a lot to lose.
        All over the world, the kids that can't get decent pro co tracts by 16, 17, or 18 look to go the next best thing they can .... An American college. There is a high percentage of foreign players in D1 and D2 American schools. Did they make a mistake by taling the scholarship or were they not good enough (like their American counterparts). You keep falsely assuming that American players take scholarships inatead if a contracts but you should realize that for 99.9% of college players that was their best and/or only offer. Doing away with college soccer would increase the number of americans in foreign leagues. Its not college, its the fsct threat they have not become good enough to get a serious offer ..... It is their youth training and the American youth system from birth to 17 that dictates where they play moron.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          All over the world, the kids that can't get decent pro co tracts by 16, 17, or 18 look to go the next best thing they can .... An American college. There is a high percentage of foreign players in D1 and D2 American schools. Did they make a mistake by taling the scholarship or were they not good enough (like their American counterparts). You keep falsely assuming that American players take scholarships inatead if a contracts but you should realize that for 99.9% of college players that was their best and/or only offer. Doing away with college soccer would increase the number of americans in foreign leagues. Its not college, its the fsct threat they have not become good enough to get a serious offer ..... It is their youth training and the American youth system from birth to 17 that dictates where they play moron.
          Doing away with college soccer WOULDN'T increase the number of americans in foreign leagues. ....YEP IT IS AN ANDROID

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            It's U17. Nobody cares. None of this will translate into success for the England grown-up team -- even the good ones will do a Rooney or Lampard and never show up to play on the senior team.
            I beg to differ. Rooney, Lampard and literally every Pro Brit player has played on the younger NT teams early in their career. Unlike the US if you do well or make the team there you most likely are already in a Pro contract with a BPL team which Is extremely hard to make, the pool of young players is huge.
            Unfortunately for England the lack of Trophies gives them a bad rap with development but to be fair the British players are on the highest level with other European countries and the majority could play in any league in the World , in fact just today rumors were still circulating about Harry Kane and Real Madrid. Over the years hundreds of British players have turned down big contracts with 1st team euro clubs.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I beg to differ. Rooney, Lampard and literally every Pro Brit player has played on the younger NT teams early in their career. Unlike the US if you do well or make the team there you most likely are already in a Pro contract with a BPL team which Is extremely hard to make, the pool of young players is huge.
              Unfortunately for England the lack of Trophies gives them a bad rap with development but to be fair the British players are on the highest level with other European countries and the majority could play in any league in the World , in fact just today rumors were still circulating about Harry Kane and Real Madrid. Over the years hundreds of British players have turned down big contracts with 1st team euro clubs.
              Beg all you want, you are wrong. Compare the number of England players in Europe versus Europeans in England, country by country. Or, South Americans, for example. Harry Kane is an outlier, and he needs to take advantage of that before his form takes a downturn.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I beg to differ. Rooney, Lampard and literally every Pro Brit player has played on the younger NT teams early in their career. Unlike the US if you do well or make the team there you most likely are already in a Pro contract with a BPL team which Is extremely hard to make, the pool of young players is huge.
                Unfortunately for England the lack of Trophies gives them a bad rap with development but to be fair the British players are on the highest level with other European countries and the majority could play in any league in the World , in fact just today rumors were still circulating about Harry Kane and Real Madrid. Over the years hundreds of British players have turned down big contracts with 1st team euro clubs.
                For years some English pro clubs wouldn't loan their best players to the English youth national teams. The end result was poor performance at youth tournaments

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  All over the world, the kids that can't get decent pro co tracts by 16, 17, or 18 look to go the next best thing they can .... An American college. There is a high percentage of foreign players in D1 and D2 American schools. Did they make a mistake by taling the scholarship or were they not good enough (like their American counterparts). You keep falsely assuming that American players take scholarships inatead if a contracts but you should realize that for 99.9% of college players that was their best and/or only offer. Doing away with college soccer would increase the number of americans in foreign leagues. Its not college, its the fsct threat they have not become good enough to get a serious offer ..... It is their youth training and the American youth system from birth to 17 that dictates where they play moron.
                  Only Moron here is you for saying that a kids soccer career is over at 16,17 & 18 if no contract is signed.
                  There’s thousands of European professional soccer players making millions that signed pro contracts in their older ages not to mention the thousands that got discovered in their 20s.

                  I believe you’ve heard of “Leicester City and Jamie Vardy?) well he got cut at 16 from Sheffield Academy, went and got a job and on weekends played pickup wherever for fun and for a period time played pickup with an ankle bracelet after being convicted of assault. I’m sure Mr Vardy and everyone who knew him would never believe by his mid twenties he would be signing multi million dollar contract with Leicester...multiple European teams knocking at the door and as of now 2017 Chelsea is still interested for 20 mil.

                  But if he had listened to a Moron! He was done at 16.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Beg all you want, you are wrong. Compare the number of England players in Europe versus Europeans in England, country by country. Or, South Americans, for example. Harry Kane is an outlier, and he needs to take advantage of that before his form takes a downturn.
                    Because the biggest $$ is in the PL. Good players are paid more than any other league . RM, Barca , PSG are only in for GREAT players.

                    Its all about the TV money

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Only Moron here is you for saying that a kids soccer career is over at 16,17 & 18 if no contract is signed.
                      There’s thousands of European professional soccer players making millions that signed pro contracts in their older ages not to mention the thousands that got discovered in their 20s.

                      I believe you’ve heard of “Leicester City and Jamie Vardy?) well he got cut at 16 from Sheffield Academy, went and got a job and on weekends played pickup wherever for fun and for a period time played pickup with an ankle bracelet after being convicted of assault. I’m sure Mr Vardy and everyone who knew him would never believe by his mid twenties he would be signing multi million dollar contract with Leicester...multiple European teams knocking at the door and as of now 2017 Chelsea is still interested for 20 mil.

                      But if he had listened to a Moron! He was done at 16.
                      Vardy is a complete exception to how talent in the Prem makes an A team.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Only Moron here is you for saying that a kids soccer career is over at 16,17 & 18 if no contract is signed.
                        There’s thousands of European professional soccer players making millions that signed pro contracts in their older ages not to mention the thousands that got discovered in their 20s.

                        I believe you’ve heard of “Leicester City and Jamie Vardy?) well he got cut at 16 from Sheffield Academy, went and got a job and on weekends played pickup wherever for fun and for a period time played pickup with an ankle bracelet after being convicted of assault. I’m sure Mr Vardy and everyone who knew him would never believe by his mid twenties he would be signing multi million dollar contract with Leicester...multiple European teams knocking at the door and as of now 2017 Chelsea is still interested for 20 mil.

                        But if he had listened to a Moron! He was done at 16.
                        Vardy is the exception to the rule. For every Vardy there are hundreds the other way. ANd Vardy probably carried on becasue he had nothing else to fall back on.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Beg all you want, you are wrong. Compare the number of England players in Europe versus Europeans in England, country by country. Or, South Americans, for example. Harry Kane is an outlier, and he needs to take advantage of that before his form takes a downturn.

                          It’s not a numbers thing with regards to player talent on why. The British players as a whole don’t like playing in Germany , Italy or France... it goes back to the 90s with the TV exposure in England , Language , lifestyle . Back in the 80-90s the soccer violence between counties were at an all time high. English players were not a welcoming group sp sticking with their own has been the topic for years, but Being on this side of the world you may not see that but even here the BPL is HUGE and if Pulisic was at any of the BPL teams such as botoom ranked Crystal Palace, the Nielsen ratings would jump ( maybe slightly) whenever he plays.
                          I’d watch Pulisic any day of the week if he was in the BPL, the Bundesliga rarely captures my interest unless it’s any of the big three teams, also the live feed is horrible and I don’t know half the names of the freegin players for the life of me.
                          Anyway England tends to lead the way on highest paid for foreign players but Italy, Germany and France tends to pay their own higher with the exception of a few.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Beg all you want, you are wrong. Compare the number of England players in Europe versus Europeans in England, country by country. Or, South Americans, for example. Harry Kane is an outlier, and he needs to take advantage of that before his form takes a downturn.
                            Didn’t Bale (welsh) get signed to RM for how much Again?
                            Yeah I remember now he scored a shat load of goals in the UEFA against RM and RM said
                            “ we gotta get that guy”

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                              I guess the Moron OP forgets that Rooney was offered 25mil from Real Madrid back in 2014 , Napoli also was chasing him. Moron!!!!

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Vardy is the exception to the rule. For every Vardy there are hundreds the other way. ANd Vardy probably carried on becasue he had nothing else to fall back on.
                                Do what about Drogba? He was cut at 18 at some Premier team in France, played pick up for fun after and signed his first Pro deal in his 20s . He became a Star at Chelsea not before.

                                There’s thousands of players with similar stories playing for smaller amounts but still a cool mil or so , the ones we know are the ones that have made the biggest impact
                                (BPL title or uefa cup)

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