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    #46
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    It is impossible to select the eventual bestest "elite" players early on. The top clubs in the world, spending millions, miss more than they hit. US soccer needs to widen its reach and improve coaching and playing opportunities for as many talented players as possible.
    Yes, this. The top 1, 2, 3 players in the state are probably always going to be the top few players in the state. They are the phenoms. But really couldn't player 30 at u13 overtake player 10 by u16? Is there really that much difference between player 30 and player 10? Cast a wide net and give the kids time to develop.

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      #47
      Earlier post asked why does playing combined or up matter. Quote from Reyna

      "We have an entire U17 team playing up because it’s tough for them. We have 14-15 year-olds playing against 17,18 year-olds, 15-16 year-olds playing with the first team to make it difficult. That’s what we can do and make sure that the players have the right habits every day but at the same time, we move all elite players up and they earn it. They earn it through the way they train, the way they behave and they earn it through their performances.”

      http://www.empireofsoccer.com/claudi...-soccer-66217/

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        #48
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Earlier post asked why does playing combined or up matter. Quote from Reyna

        "We have an entire U17 team playing up because it’s tough for them. We have 14-15 year-olds playing against 17,18 year-olds, 15-16 year-olds playing with the first team to make it difficult. That’s what we can do and make sure that the players have the right habits every day but at the same time, we move all elite players up and they earn it. They earn it through the way they train, the way they behave and they earn it through their performances.”

        http://www.empireofsoccer.com/claudi...-soccer-66217/
        It sounds like they are handling it for development. At our club, they needed girls to move up because there weren't enough players, and because of puberty, there is not a big difference.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Yes, this. The top 1, 2, 3 players in the state are probably always going to be the top few players in the state. They are the phenoms. But really couldn't player 30 at u13 overtake player 10 by u16? Is there really that much difference between player 30 and player 10? Cast a wide net and give the kids time to develop.
          👆👆👆 This

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            #50
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            It sounds like they are handling it for development. At our club, they needed girls to move up because there weren't enough players, and because of puberty, there is not a big difference.
            True dat. That and plenty of clubs care about winning, not development. Better to keep a younger stud on their age appropriate team to help win rather than move them up to challenge them more.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              True dat. That and plenty of clubs care about winning, not development. Better to keep a younger stud on their age appropriate team to help win rather than move them up to challenge them more.
              Just ask SSS who has their 04 unicorn only rostered up one year on 03 team, and has her drop into the 04 games when it’s a tougher match-up they really need to win. Completely putting winning over development for their best player. Even the USNT know to play her up with the 02’s, but SSS won’t because her ability to win games for the club becomes minimized the higher they push her up, even though it is what would be best for the player.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Just ask SSS who has their 04 unicorn only rostered up one year on 03 team, and has her drop into the 04 games when it’s a tougher match-up they really need to win. Completely putting winning over development for their best player. Even the USNT know to play her up with the 02’s, but SSS won’t because her ability to win games for the club becomes minimized the higher they push her up, even though it is what would be best for the player.
                If the 04 game is truly a "tougher match-up" then wouldn't she still benefit developmentally there too? As long as the player is appropriately challenged does the age bracket matter?

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  If the 04 game is truly a "tougher match-up" then wouldn't she still benefit developmentally there too? As long as the player is appropriately challenged does the age bracket matter?
                  I think the poster meant when the 04 team can't win a tough game they need to bring the player in. Not so much because it would be a challenge for the player but a challenge the team to win.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    If the 04 game is truly a "tougher match-up" then wouldn't she still benefit developmentally there too? As long as the player is appropriately challenged does the age bracket matter?
                    Tougher match up for the team, not the star player. They bring her down to her age to help that team win because it is too easy for her.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I think the poster meant when the 04 team can't win a tough game they need to bring the player in. Not so much because it would be a challenge for the player but a challenge the team to win.
                      By bringing a stud back down, they're not only not challenging her but also taking away development opportunities from the players on the regular roster. It's about the wins, not development

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        By bringing a stud back down, they're not only not challenging her but also taking away development opportunities from the players on the regular roster. It's about the wins, not development
                        But all the posters in the thread about winning over development said winning was the most important thing... </sarc>

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                          #57
                          So we feel confident about U16 and U17 getting their own age group next year and likely GDA will expand down to U13, but what are the odds of U12 happening next year?

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            So we feel confident about U16 and U17 getting their own age group next year and likely GDA will expand down to U13, but what are the odds of U12 happening next year?
                            Eventually, of course, but next year would be incredibly bold, bordering on stupid.

                            "Arrogant" is the better word to describe it.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Eventually, of course, but next year would be incredibly bold, bordering on stupid.

                              "Arrogant" is the better word to describe it.
                              I don't know if arrogant is quite right but overly ambitious perhaps. My guess is no U12 in 2018/19 but I would bet on it in 2019.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I don't know if arrogant is quite right but overly ambitious perhaps. My guess is no U12 in 2018/19 but I would bet on it in 2019.
                                I was being a smart ass by quoting Reyna.

                                http://www.espnfc.com/united-states/...r-too-arrogant

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