Politics again

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Poisoning his patrons with food and drink??? Does he hold a gun to their head while they consume that food and drink?




Wasn't there some guy named Deval recently pushing the idea of casinos in Massachusetts? Oh, I see the difference. It's OK when the government gets the money, but it's not OK when it's the private sector. Hmmmm, sounds an awful lot like China if you ask me.

You are too ill-informed to get the point. You have to get out more from your wing-nut pseudo news sources.

Google "melamine and China" and read some of the more pertinent hits.

Melamine scraps of "fake protein" is finely ground and mixed into low grade grains to deceptively raise the apparent protein content of the food.

According to the NY Times:

The practice is widespread in China. For years animal feed sellers have been able to cheat buyers by blending the powder into feed with little regulatory supervision, according to interviews with melamine scrap traders and agricultural workers here.

[...] Many animal feed operators advertise on the Internet seeking to purchase melamine scrap. And melamine scrap producers and traders said in recent interviews that they often sell to animal feed makers.

"Many companies buy melamine scrap to make animal feed, such as fish feed," says Ji Denghui, general manager of the Fujian Sanming Dinghui Chemical Company. "I don't know if there's a regulation on it. Probably not. No law or regulation says 'don't do it,' so everyone's doing it. The laws in China are like that, aren't they? If there's no accident, there won't be any regulation."

Yes, I can see how a lack of regulations to protect public and the absence of regulations that explicitly forbid businesses to poison, harm, or otherwise hoodwink their customers is seen as an exciting and positive business environment by the robber baron class. Anything to boost profits and little to fear from government regulations.

Try googling "lead paint toys China" next.Have you been in a cave 50 yearsor do you know the consequences of lead poisoning on children.

Next google "anti-freeze China toothpaste and read up a little.

After doing this, then come back here and explain how having a business environemnt in the US that approximates the business environment in China is a good thing for all the people poisoned by their products. Or does it only matter to you that a handful of fat cats like Steve Wynn are happy? And please.....don't come around with the fact that they provide jobs:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/bu...6earnings.html

The article discusses how private sector lay-offs lead to higher corporate profits. RThat is what is driving loss of jobs here. Record profits for corporations.

Maybe you teabaggers will start backing revocation of corproate tax breaks for off-shoring jobs. Wouldn't that be patriotic? I thought you losers were all about patriotism rather than the obsequois obedience you show to billionaire corporatists like the Koch brothers, Steve Wynn, and others of their ilk.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

And of course no one in the public sector would ever take money they didn't deserve, right? What a dope you are.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/201...fornia-cities/

"In addition to the $787,637 salary of Chief Administrative Officer Robert Rizzo, Bell pays Police Chief Randy Adams $457,000 a year, about 50% more than Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck or Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca and more than double New York City’s police commissioner. Assistant City Manager Angela Spaccia makes $376,288…."

Hmnnn....sounds like you are ok with malfeasance in the private or public sector. as to the latter, it was probably ok for republican associated people to profit from those no-bid bush contracts but you freak out over things lile you site.

For the record, I oppose malfeasance in public or private sector for monetary gain. perhaps you should do the same and notmake it a political football.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are you serious?????? I mean really, is Huffington making THAT news???

Correction. Huffington Post or any other media outlet did not "make" that news. Gleen Beck made the news as public figured normally do when they go oncamera and admit that they knowingly LIED. You tend to gloss over simple realities like that when it comes to your wingnut leaders. Different rules apply to them. I mean Beck, in his own words, decided that it was "simpler" to lie, so that makes it ok, right? (That is rhetorical because liek Jan Brewer, you never answer simple question posed to you.)[/QUOT]

P.S. According to the Christian Science Monitor, heads do get separated from dead bodies in the Arizona desert but the cause is usually animals and not, as yet, by drug lords like those in Mexico.

Again the problem is that Jan Brewer knowingly lied about this on multiple occasions because she is either too ignorant to appreciate reality or, like Beck, feels that lies are ok if they achieve her desired end.

Did you know that jan Brewer is very close to officials of a private prison firm that stands to make a lot of money if more immigrants arte thrown in jail? go do a little research.

http://www.kpho.com/news/24834877/detail.html

Maybe she will make out well like those judges in PA who got a kickback for every child they sent to a private prison.

Do you know Jan Brewer's son was deemed criminally insane in 1990 after he broke into a woman's apartment and raped her? and Jan got his records sealed right before she took office. How convenient. Since he was temproarily released several times, don't you think people should know when a criminally insane rapist moves in next door? I thought you wingnuts were all about that kind of law and order. Sealing those records raises the possibility son Ronnie might rape again when released if people living in his community do not take the necessary precautions.

Son is insane......what is it they say about the apple not falling far from the tree.

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/val...lly_insane.php

More than 28,000 people have been killed in violence tied to Mexico's drug war, but Brewer's an idiot to think the bad guys would ever illegally cross the border, right?

Yes, we should make all law and public policy choices based on whatever all of our leaders think might possibly happen in the future. I mean its perfectly logocal for Brewer to believe that what is happening in Mexico will happen in AZ, right?

If you care about the Mexican drug warm, I think a coherent drug policy in this country might make more of a difference. State leaders south of our border have said that legalization of marijuana alone in this country would cripple the cartels:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090302205.html


But no better to listen to crazy Jan. Did you see her empty-headed freeze in the debate? Jan puts the aricept back in arizona. Now she will not debate again. Like all teabaggers - afraid to engage on the facts and since she can't keep throwing up smokescreens and misdirections in debates, better to just bailout. WHy do the citizens need to be informed ab out your positions and more importantly your demeanor as a leader.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hmnnn....sounds like you are ok with malfeasance in the private or public sector. as to the latter, it was probably ok for republican associated people to profit from those no-bid bush contracts but you freak out over things lile you site.

For the record, I oppose malfeasance in public or private sector for monetary gain. perhaps you should do the same and notmake it a political football.

Nice try at turning the discussion, but sorry, it does not work.

Did you know that today is the first Labor Day in history where the majority of union members in the United States work for the government? Just another example of Big Government that libtard like yourself.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hmnnn....sounds like you are ok with malfeasance in the private or public sector. as to the latter, it was probably ok for republican associated people to profit from those no-bid bush contracts but you freak out over things lile you site.

For the record, I oppose malfeasance in public or private sector for monetary gain. perhaps you should do the same and notmake it a political football.

Nice try at turning the discussion, but sorry, it does not work.

Did you know that today is the first Labor Day in history where the majority of union members in the United States work for the government? Just another example of Big Government that libtard like yourself support. Fortunately the majority of Americans do not. Just 57 days until real change takes place. And what are YOU going to do then, loser?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Nice try at turning the discussion, but sorry, it does not work.

Did you know that today is the first Labor Day in history where the majority of union members in the United States work for the government? Just another example of Big Government that libtard like yourself support. Fortunately the majority of Americans do not. Just 57 days until real change takes place. And what are YOU going to do then, loser?

You were asked once before, maybe a few weeks ago, what "real change" entails. Does that question stump you (like the rest of the teabaggers) or do you want to take a crack at it? Or are you like Sharon, Jan, Sarah, and the rest....word salad when you have to make sense?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Nice try at turning the discussion, but sorry, it does not work.

Did you know that today is the first Labor Day in history where the majority of union members in the United States work for the government? Just another example of Big Government that libtard like yourself.

it doesn't work because you will not oppose malfeasance regadless of the political party. Malfeasance by your own ilk is celebrated while that of the opposing party is decried.

That is the problem these days, isn't it? Most everyone is unpricipled.

Talk about liars. Heck, our president has got to be one of the biggest liars going. Spends unknown amounts on renovating the Oval Office. Has a rug woven with supposedly a quote by MLK, Jr. and it's no a quote by King at all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090305100.html

Perhaps I exaggerate a bit, but only to make a point. What Obama did is about as much a lie as quibbling over whether Beck actually touched the document or Brewer talking about beheadings in the Arizona desert (they don't behead them, only kill them and the cops who are trying to keep them from doing so, but the libtards don't care about that, do they?) Maybe Obama wasn't really lying, he just doesn't know who he's quoting. The president whose suppose to be the smartest president EVAH doesn't know who he's quoting yet he's willing to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on having a custom rug woven and then gets the author of the quote wrong. LOL! So typical of this administration. Doesn't have a clue and doesn't care when it comes to spending other people's dollars.

BTW whatever happened to the transparency this president promised? Now THAT'S an example of what a REAL lie is. One that is a lot more damaging then whether Beck touched a document or not or Brewer confusing which side of the border Mexicans are having their heads cut off. How come Huffington isn't reporting how much Obama paid to have the misquote woven in to his custom carpet?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2010090501180

"The White House did not disclose exact figures for the makeover but said the cost was "in line with the amount spent by Presidents Clinton and George W. Bush on the redesigns of their Oval Office."

But we'll never know whether it is or it isn't, now will we? The libtard media doesn't give a *hit. They're too busy chasing down stories if whether Glenn Beck actually touched a document or not.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

it doesn't work because you will not oppose malfeasance regadless of the political party. Malfeasance by your own ilk is celebrated while that of the opposing party is decried.

That is the problem these days, isn't it? Most everyone is unpricipled.

You mean YOU are actually agreeing with me that those who govern are corrupt???? Well, than you'll just have to join me on November 2 in voting the bums out, now won't you?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Correction. Huffington Post or any other media outlet did not "make" that news. Gleen Beck made the news as public figured normally do when they go oncamera and admit that they knowingly LIED. You tend to gloss over simple realities like that when it comes to your wingnut leaders. Different rules apply to them. I mean Beck, in his own words, decided that it was "simpler" to lie, so that makes it ok, right? (That is rhetorical because liek Jan Brewer, you never answer simple question posed to you.)[/QUOT]




Again the problem is that Jan Brewer knowingly lied about this on multiple occasions because she is either too ignorant to appreciate reality or, like Beck, feels that lies are ok if they achieve her desired end.

Hahahahahahah, you mean the right is using Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals too - the end justifies the means? As they say, what's good for the goose is good for the gander I guess.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Did you know that jan Brewer is very close to officials of a private prison firm that stands to make a lot of money if more immigrants arte thrown in jail? go do a little research.

http://www.kpho.com/news/24834877/detail.html

Maybe she will make out well like those judges in PA who got a kickback for every child they sent to a private prison.[

Oh my, my! These people are bad. Really bad. They contributed to Brewer's campaign AND to support Prop 100, a sales tax to help avoid educational budget cuts. Yeah, they are really bad people. Geesh, you really need to READ the articles you post.

"According to campaign finance records, CCA executives and employees contributed more than $1,000 to the governor’s re-election campaign. The company’s political action committee and its lobbyists contributed another $60,000 to Brewer’s top legislative priority, Proposition 100, a sales tax to help avoid budget cuts to education."

And did you happen to notice that they are talking about a federal agency NOT a state agency, which has so far been pretty unsympathetic to the plight of Arizona's illegal immigrant problem.

"Corrections Corporation of America holds the contract with Immigration and Customs Enforcement to lock up illegal immigrants picked up in Arizona. Tough immigration laws such as Arizona's SB 1070 could send thousands of new bodies its way, and millions of dollars."

You libtards, are desperate, absolutely DESPERATE, to make something out of nothing to avoid the November slaughter. Sorry, not much you can do is going to change that.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Do you know Jan Brewer's son was deemed criminally insane in 1990 after he broke into a woman's apartment and raped her? and Jan got his records sealed right before she took office. How convenient. Since he was temproarily released several times, don't you think people should know when a criminally insane rapist moves in next door? I thought you wingnuts were all about that kind of law and order. Sealing those records raises the possibility son Ronnie might rape again when released if people living in his community do not take the necessary precautions.

Son is insane......what is it they say about the apple not falling far from the tree.

Did you know that she lost another son to cancer? Do you want to play on that fact to make your argument too?

Aside from the fact that we're speaking of an incident that is 20 years old, aside from the fact that Arizona has a sex offender registry and aside from the fact that her son remains in a prison for the criminally insane, all this time I thought you libtards would be sympathetic to the plight of a family who has lost 2 sons, one to cancer and one to mentall illness, but then you go and confirm what a hypocrite you libtards are. My bad. What else should I have expected?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes, we should make all law and public policy choices based on whatever all of our leaders think might possibly happen in the future. I mean its perfectly logocal for Brewer to believe that what is happening in Mexico will happen in AZ, right?

I guess we should.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If you care about the Mexican drug warm, I think a coherent drug policy in this country might make more of a difference. State leaders south of our border have said that legalization of marijuana alone in this country would cripple the cartels:

Now there's the solution! Legalize drugs. Then the government can tax those drugs. But isn't that sort of like this gambling stuff that you are against? You know, you said something about posioning people with food and drink in casinos? You don't think doing drugs comes under a similar heading? Of course not, you are a hypocritical libtard and to you it makes perfect sense.

But no better to listen to crazy Jan. Did you see her empty-headed freeze in the debate? Jan puts the aricept back in arizona. Now she will not debate again. Like all teabaggers - afraid to engage on the facts and since she can't keep throwing up smokescreens and misdirections in debates, better to just bailout. WHy do the citizens need to be informed ab out your positions and more importantly your demeanor as a leader.

There you go again, suggesting the right is using the same tactics the left has been employing throughout the Obama campaign and presidency. If true, and I don't know that it is, I guess I would have to say "Takes one to know one".

Here's one for you, from one of your own, the Three Sonorans, a progressives' blog . I guess he/they would believe Charles Krauthammer - the left is going to get their butts handed to them BIG time come November 2 and I can't wait. How'd you like to discuss that fact?

Sep. 05, 2010
Jan Brewer has a 97% chance of winning if we voted today