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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThat's not really point of the discussion though, is it? When you're talking about strength of GAL and one of it's top clubs that dominates (and I mean dominates) all the other clubs in GAL, plays against mid-level teams from ECNL and they're a big fat dud-you can assume the top level of GAL is mid-lower level ECNL.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThat's not really point of the discussion though, is it? When you're talking about strength of GAL and one of it's top clubs that dominates (and I mean dominates) all the other clubs in GAL, plays against mid-level teams from ECNL and they're a big fat dud-you can assume the top level of GAL is mid-lower level ECNL.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBecause the aim of all of this is to win as many Club games as possible. Really? Read carefully. If a club gets its players to the destinations their talent deserves, they are doing a good job. Dont care how many games they win. Stop giving clubs more credit than they deserve for being the final destination. Most of the Clubs take credit for the ones who help push the narrative and ignore the ones who dont.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYes that would be accurate that GAL is mid level ECNL in comparison. Why is that is an issue or so unacceptable - I don't understand why GAL parents feel the need to boost the perception of the league. Just work on making it better rather than defending what it already is. All this said and I have a kid in GA.
I'd have preferred 50% of the GDA clubs being absorbed into ECNL, regionalizing conferences more and streamlining the whole thing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think you are correct and its ECNL people who bash it and GA people who pump it up and both are ridiculous. Long term, GA just needs to concentrate on the product and getting the younger teams to be the best they can and compete well with ECNl teams when tournaments give the opportunity. I would prefer that no one be able to run away from other teams. I think GA will struggle for 04s and 05s, could be ok for 06s and if they work hard for a year or two, be good for 07s and 08s. The question is whether ECNL will use other tactics to crush the league, by expanding considerably.
I'd have preferred 50% of the GDA clubs being absorbed into ECNL, regionalizing conferences more and streamlining the whole thing.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe ECNL is a for profit business with a business plan. Why would they further dilute their product. The vast majority of GA players (and especially parents) would jump at the opportunity to play ECNL. ECNL in my opinion should only have two clubs in NJ. They are in my opinion a drop in talent from PDA Blue to everyone else. For ECNL to be more effective less is better to maintain a competitive balance not to increase by 50%. You do that and the best players and clubs will then leave to form there own new league.
I think it would be very easy to balance the quality vs an expanded # of teams by forcing a max roster of 20 rather than the 30 the teams currently have. Players would spread naturally across the teams and have a better experience with virtually no noticeable drop in the game, especially when they dont have to worry about getting benched constantly because there's 19 bench kids with parents calling the DOC every day.
Less is better only when you have a high # of players in a small geography. We are already driving past good teams just to play crap ones, all because the walled garden approach. We play at tournaments far away and its expensive as hell and the only people making money are DoubleTrees and Anthony f'ing Travel.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIMO, the improvement in quality is not worth the increase in non-tuition costs to participate. ECNl costing ~$10k per year is a burden to the families and the reality is that the clubs are not even making half of this. It is hotels and travel companies benefitting from the national aspect of the leagues and the travel imposed.
I think it would be very easy to balance the quality vs an expanded # of teams by forcing a max roster of 20 rather than the 30 the teams currently have. Players would spread naturally across the teams and have a better experience with virtually no noticeable drop in the game, especially when they dont have to worry about getting benched constantly because there's 19 bench kids with parents calling the DOC every day.
Less is better only when you have a high # of players in a small geography. We are already driving past good teams just to play crap ones, all because the walled garden approach. We play at tournaments far away and its expensive as hell and the only people making money are DoubleTrees and Anthony f'ing Travel.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI respect your opinion but that is not why ECNL was founded. Clubs like PDA and FC Stars wanted to join forces and participate in a small league of like minded successful clubs to play competitive matches vs like minded other clubs and then to have regional tournaments along with national events that would attract college coaches from all four regions. To put it mildly ECNL was founded to remain small with the idea that the best players will travel to training as well as competitive matches up and down Region 1. When ECNL started adding clubs and saturated markets like they have in NJ the quality and depth have dropped drastically. If this continues as I stated before, those original clubs will leave and form another competitive league. ECNL was/is successful because of that original group of clubs in all four regions. If ECNL starts to allow any more less competitive clubs as they are now doing as well as saturating markets lessening the depth of talent then there will be another new league formed.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think you are correct and its ECNL people who bash it and GA people who pump it up and both are ridiculous. Long term, GA just needs to concentrate on the product and getting the younger teams to be the best they can and compete well with ECNl teams when tournaments give the opportunity. I would prefer that no one be able to run away from other teams. I think GA will struggle for 04s and 05s, could be ok for 06s and if they work hard for a year or two, be good for 07s and 08s. The question is whether ECNL will use other tactics to crush the league, by expanding considerably.
I'd have preferred 50% of the GDA clubs being absorbed into ECNL, regionalizing conferences more and streamlining the whole thing.
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