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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis is great feedback. Thanks for taking the time to comment. It may be early since ECNL is new...but I'll still ask, is there a preference for ECNL or NPL?
I'd say ECNL has a slightly higher average standard of play, and therefore would be the preference if a coach was forced to choose.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostGuaranteed if you stay out of trouble and keep your grades up. Get in trouble or grades drop and so goes the merit scholarship.
and.....you think this is a good or bad thing?
Merit means something earned and to be earned. It is clear from the start that it is a yearly thing that depends on continued ability to earn it.
The entire idea of merit moneys is that it is a non-sport reward for good behavior and good grades.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostJust because some do it that doesn’t mean that it’s a good idea for everyone. All this seems like an awful lot of sacrifices for little return. At what point do parents realize their kid has basically reached the end of their road?
Statistically, 13% of high school players go on to play college ball.
I would submit that this number is way lower if you are not on the clubs top 1 or 2 teams, and depending on the club, this might be limited to the top team.
NEFC, Stars, GPS top teams are very good and many of these kids (20%?) will play college soccer.
Bolts and Revs DAP are their top teams and at least 70% are going on to play college soccer.
? Boys ECNL teams for Bolts?? remains to be seen.
GPS now has two 'Elite' teams; red and white.
However, if each parent determined what moneys to spend solely on statistics/data then they will forever wonder 'what if'. Therefore, all these questions and criticisms of parents who spend money on club soccer, or any other club sport, are all fine but really miss reality that it is no one else's business what parents spend their money on.
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For men the numbers are simply in their favor for D3 - about 12,000 D3 spots vs just shy of 6,000 for D1. As far as internationals, the percentage of players on D2 teams is higher than D1, and very low for D3 (no athletic money and generally higher academic standards). But D1 schools will have usually 4-8 or fewer international players and some have none at all (D1 winner Stanford had two I think). Regardless if you want to play D1 the competition will be much tougher simply because of fewer spots and outside US competition. Some top D2 programs have nearly all foreign players (D2 winner had one US player). For women there's certainly more D1 opportunities but even then only 2.3% of all HS players will play women's D1. The bulk of the players will be all the other levels.
http://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html
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BTNT, so you're STILL at it. Impressive. Your life is so sad you have nothing better to do than crap on little 'ol D3 soccer???
"...the only requirement is sacrificing the time to participate."
"...when will you realize you've reached the end of the road."
Now, sign another post saying you're not posting and fully support D3 lol.
Biggest loser and creep on the planet....in a landslide.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhat many on this site don't quite grasp when they go on and on about how competitive top tier D3 soccer is and how much club soccer is necessary to prepare for it is that just like you can have super "competitive" U13 teams in club soccer who can play some semblance of attractive soccer and be thought of as a high level team the reality is whenever those types of teams try to play up in age groups against what are considered super "competitive" teams they almost universally get blown out because the older team is always going to have more physically mature players and their experience will produce a faster speed of play. The same holds true between the college divisions. The D3 level is typified by players that are missing something, be it athleticism, technical skill, or just the desire to be a better player and truth is the overall level of play is only a small incremental step up from a decent level of high school soccer. If a player can get on the field for a decent high school program they don't need much more than that to make even the most competitive D3 college teams. Anyone who thinks the level of play is higher than that and players need more club soccer to prepare for it is just delusional.
Btw, what was the best D3 team you ever saw? Westfield? Worcester State? Southern Vermont? Wheelock?
Delusional? Do you know how many people you are calling delusional? In the tens of thousands. But we should trust your opinions instead that are so obviously borne out of your benevolence and genuine altruism lol.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhat many on this site don't quite grasp when they go on and on about how competitive top tier D3 soccer is and how much club soccer is necessary to prepare for it is that just like you can have super "competitive" U13 teams in club soccer who can play some semblance of attractive soccer and be thought of as a high level team the reality is whenever those types of teams try to play up in age groups against what are considered super "competitive" teams they almost universally get blown out because the older team is always going to have more physically mature players and their experience will produce a faster speed of play. The same holds true between the college divisions. The D3 level is typified by players that are missing something, be it athleticism, technical skill, or just the desire to be a better player and truth is the overall level of play is only a small incremental step up from a decent level of high school soccer. If a player can get on the field for a decent high school program they don't need much more than that to make even the most competitive D3 college teams. Anyone who thinks the level of play is higher than that and players need more club soccer to prepare for it is just delusional.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSimple answer: 'when they get there'
Statistically, 13% of high school players go on to play college ball.
I would submit that this number is way lower if you are not on the clubs top 1 or 2 teams, and depending on the club, this might be limited to the top team.
NEFC, Stars, GPS top teams are very good and many of these kids (20%?) will play college soccer.
Bolts and Revs DAP are their top teams and at least 70% are going on to play college soccer.
? Boys ECNL teams for Bolts?? remains to be seen.
GPS now has two 'Elite' teams; red and white.
However, if each parent determined what moneys to spend solely on statistics/data then they will forever wonder 'what if'. Therefore, all these questions and criticisms of parents who spend money on club soccer, or any other club sport, are all fine but really miss reality that it is no one else's business what parents spend their money on.
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