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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    complaining on this cesspool site won't get you anywhere.
    ^ meant to add this is when you start hammering your state reps and put the pressure on for changes. Call the press, whatever. It is a really dumb rule to begin with but I'm no t even sure much attention has been paid to it

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      But if your brand is suffering and losing money, does it matter anymore. Comply and fail for sure or don't comply and take your chances. Sorry, they played all last summer with no masks and there were few if any transmissions via sports .... Two big soccer studies showed zero risk (San Diego and Wisconsin). Either we follow the science or we don't .... Very simple. The answer is we never did and it's apparent to everyone that wants to see it and we simply don't believe all of the different rhetoric that all of these various health departments or leaders espouse. It's been a year .... This thing will continue to wind down through next spring until it is gone entirely by Summer of 2022. That was about how long Spanish flu took without a vaccine as well. Despite what Biden and Baker tell you, they can not beat mother nature and never could. So, it's time to get busy living or get busy dying. -Red
      You misunderstand my posts. I agree with much of what you say AND agree that the travel rules in NE are stupid. Where I disagree is where you suggest that clubs and parents will just ignore the rules. They won't. You think ECNL, for example, is going to condone Stars and Scorps ignoring Covid rules? Not a chance. You think clubs like that will risk being shut down? Not a chance. And even if they were willing to flaunt the rules in this case it requires a vast majority of the parents to do the same or to comply with the rules and repeatedly test, quarantine their kids. Again. Not a chance. Just being realistic.

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        #18
        We just came back from SUSA tournament in NY. Most of the club traveled down. On return, not allowed to practice until a negative COVID test (or quarantine completed). Stayed remote from school until negative test result as well. It's a PITA, but it works.

        As far as playing opponents from outside MA in regular season, just schedule the matches for NH or CT. Add it to the expense MA families must absorb to play soccer (or do anything) in this state. As far as school goes, most schools are hybrid or remote, so that is really a non-issue. You can get free COVID testing, though the rapid test seems to cost $160+, but that is also a non-issue considering most testing comes back within 48 hours.

        Until TPTB decide to open things up, or you want to move (we do), it's our reality.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          We just came back from SUSA tournament in NY. Most of the club traveled down. On return, not allowed to practice until a negative COVID test (or quarantine completed). Stayed remote from school until negative test result as well. It's a PITA, but it works.

          As far as playing opponents from outside MA in regular season, just schedule the matches for NH or CT. Add it to the expense MA families must absorb to play soccer (or do anything) in this state. As far as school goes, most schools are hybrid or remote, so that is really a non-issue. You can get free COVID testing, though the rapid test seems to cost $160+, but that is also a non-issue considering most testing comes back within 48 hours.

          Until TPTB decide to open things up, or you want to move (we do), it's our reality.
          How does playing in NH or CT help? Isn't it the same MA rules? People aren't going to want to test/quarantine/not attend school in person so they can play regular season games in CT - at least not enough people that the clubs can count on it.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            We just came back from SUSA tournament in NY. Most of the club traveled down. On return, not allowed to practice until a negative COVID test (or quarantine completed). Stayed remote from school until negative test result as well. It's a PITA, but it works.

            As far as playing opponents from outside MA in regular season, just schedule the matches for NH or CT. Add it to the expense MA families must absorb to play soccer (or do anything) in this state. As far as school goes, most schools are hybrid or remote, so that is really a non-issue. You can get free COVID testing, though the rapid test seems to cost $160+, but that is also a non-issue considering most testing comes back within 48 hours.

            Until TPTB decide to open things up, or you want to move (we do), it's our reality.
            The rapid test isn’t authorized to release you from quarantine, it has to be a PCR test.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              How does playing in NH or CT help? Isn't it the same MA rules? People aren't going to want to test/quarantine/not attend school in person so they can play regular season games in CT - at least not enough people that the clubs can count on it.
              Do you really think people quarantine when they leave the state and come right back? No.
              Come on nobody missing school after tournaments or any other trips.

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                #22
                Nope no quarantines my kids stay at grandmas in RI all the time and go back to school on Monday. No quarantine is necessary. They go out to dinner and shop whatever. Not quarantining for crossing state lines no way.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You misunderstand my posts. I agree with much of what you say AND agree that the travel rules in NE are stupid. Where I disagree is where you suggest that clubs and parents will just ignore the rules. They won't. You think ECNL, for example, is going to condone Stars and Scorps ignoring Covid rules? Not a chance. You think clubs like that will risk being shut down? Not a chance. And even if they were willing to flaunt the rules in this case it requires a vast majority of the parents to do the same or to comply with the rules and repeatedly test, quarantine their kids. Again. Not a chance. Just being realistic.
                  You aren't being realistic. This is pure speculation...and completely wrong. Nobody quarantines. Nobody wears masks. Nobody cares. They focus on soccer, not covid.

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                    #24
                    My hockey player got off a flight back from a Dallas tournament and drove straight to a local game and played.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      My hockey player got off a flight back from a Dallas tournament and drove straight to a local game and played.
                      I'm not a covid Karen but the fact that you seem proud of this is pathetic.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        You aren't being realistic. This is pure speculation...and completely wrong. Nobody quarantines. Nobody wears masks. Nobody cares. They focus on soccer, not covid.
                        Not the OP but are you completely nuts? The poster said clubs won't overtly break the rules. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY TRUE! Why do you think the fall season was a mess and and leagues like ECNL are already moving spring games around? The clubs can't be perceived as encouraging parents to break the rules. And you are wrong about parents willingly violating the rules. The majority won't do what you're suggesting. Some will. But not most.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Do you really think people quarantine when they leave the state and come right back? No.
                          Come on nobody missing school after tournaments or any other trips.
                          We did. And so have plenty of others. Listen, can you wake up for a minute? Even if parents will break the rules it doesn't matter. Big clubs and big leagues are not going to run seasons involving MA teams where they have to assume everyone is breaking the rules in order for it to work. They can't do that. For a tournament where it's a one shot deal - sure. Every weekend for regular season games? No way. The fact that games are already being moved/cancelled/postponed should tell you something.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Not the OP but are you completely nuts? The poster said clubs won't overtly break the rules. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY TRUE! Why do you think the fall season was a mess and and leagues like ECNL are already moving spring games around? The clubs can't be perceived as encouraging parents to break the rules. And you are wrong about parents willingly violating the rules. The majority won't do what you're suggesting. Some will. But not most.
                            Totally agree. Last thing a club wants is their name on the news for some outbreak. To the public it doesn't matter if the players all gave it to each other hanging out after a game. It will still hit the club.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              We did. And so have plenty of others. Listen, can you wake up for a minute? Even if parents will break the rules it doesn't matter. Big clubs and big leagues are not going to run seasons involving MA teams where they have to assume everyone is breaking the rules in order for it to work. They can't do that. For a tournament where it's a one shot deal - sure. Every weekend for regular season games? No way. The fact that games are already being moved/cancelled/postponed should tell you something.
                              Also a good point - will clubs schedule games not knowing who will come and who won't? Are they going to ask families "Hey are you willing to break the state regs for this"? heck no.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I'm not a covid Karen but the fact that you seem proud of this is pathetic.

                                Any local CVS minute clinic does rapid tests for free w/insurance. Small fee without. In any state. CVS.com and put in your zip code.

                                Kids can get tested before even returning to their home state.

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