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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Im asking an adult question. If league matters, how are they able to do it? Why not answer the question instead of avoiding it with BS.
    You’re asking a knowingly childish question to a set of posters who have not been a part of any league posturing. History lessons on NEFC, and the development pathway of the 03s in particular is available within your own club. Ask a friend

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Did you attend the NEFC Stars game. It was a friendly and do you know who was missing from both teams. Since you did not post the score I am going to assume you were not there. Was a very competitive game and stars was missing a few top players. The game was pretty equal and two different styles of play and formations. Stars did lose 1-0 on an ok goal. The two center backs from NEFC were very good in this game and kept a lot of good chances from happening. Hats off to them and good luck to them in college. The top clubs in the state all can beat each other on any given day. Even lower level clubs can beat a team, it happens at the highest levels all the time. Does not mean that a club or team is better just means they won that day.
      To the other poster read line #3...star parent did actually say “few” players MIA.

      Ok

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        To the other poster read line #3...star parent did actually say “few” players MIA.

        Ok
        That been bothering you all day and night?
        Hope you sleep better now

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          To the other poster read line #3...star parent did actually say “few” players MIA.

          Ok
          One more time ..... no stars players were missing and had top players. It was a game. Well done Nefc .

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            Stars wasn’t missing anyone.Give it a rest, it was a great friendly in name only game.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Stars wasn’t missing anyone.Give it a rest, it was a great friendly in name only game.
              If anything the opposite was true with sub waves of 8 players.
              Going to be some sit-outs come league game day.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Im asking an adult question. If league matters, how are they able to do it? Why not answer the question instead of avoiding it with BS.
                You know the answer. At least I hope you do. It isn't rocket science. Averages don't necessarily apply to every individual or team. No one ever seriously said every good team or every good player is in ECNL. No one. And for you to pretend that the quality of competition makes no difference to development is just silly.

                Now, for the bottom line. The NEFC team is excellent. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be even BETTER if they played competitive games more often.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You know the answer. At least I hope you do. It isn't rocket science. Averages don't necessarily apply to every individual or team. No one ever seriously said every good team or every good player is in ECNL. No one. And for you to pretend that the quality of competition makes no difference to development is just silly.

                  Now, for the bottom line. The NEFC team is excellent. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be even BETTER if they played competitive games more often.
                  Thank you for saying that. I think it’s understandable that parents of these teams are not posting here as both sides respect each other. It’s the cut players of both sides that are getting a rise.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You know the answer. At least I hope you do. It isn't rocket science. Averages don't necessarily apply to every individual or team. No one ever seriously said every good team or every good player is in ECNL. No one. And for you to pretend that the quality of competition makes no difference to development is just silly.

                    Now, for the bottom line. The NEFC team is excellent. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be even BETTER if they played competitive games more often.
                    Quality of games may impact development, but the vast majority of games are not vs quality competition. You can keep theorizing about it, but how many evenly matched games does a top Club or College play per year? Very few. If quality competition in games was key, Starts and NEFC have it in State, so why travel so much to play worse teams?

                    The whole push in CLub soccer is to develop teams that have more strength in depth than the competition to WIN games. Following that path often reduces the competitive nature of games. If competitive teams was a key to development then why do Clubs do everything they can to tilt the playing field ?

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                      I don’t think the poster was saying that league competition does not matter at all, but player can clearly develop with a good club, skilled coaching and intra team competition. For some players, these factors are more important than league competition. It would be good to have it all, but this is the battered landscape that greedy club owners have dealt us.

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      You know the answer. At least I hope you do. It isn't rocket science. Averages don't necessarily apply to every individual or team. No one ever seriously said every good team or every good player is in ECNL. No one. And for you to pretend that the quality of competition makes no difference to development is just silly.

                      Now, for the bottom line. The NEFC team is excellent. That doesn't mean they wouldn't be even BETTER if they played competitive games more often.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I don’t think the poster was saying that league competition does not matter at all, but player can clearly develop with a good club, skilled coaching and intra team competition. For some players, these factors are more important than league competition. It would be good to have it all, but this is the battered landscape that greedy club owners have dealt us.
                        Why blame “greedy” club owners. Parents, who want their 2nd tier player on a first tier team, are equally to blame. Clubs are only selling what the market wants to buy.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Why blame “greedy” club owners. Parents, who want their 2nd tier player on a first tier team, are equally to blame. Clubs are only selling what the market wants to buy.
                          Agree. We have the system that best suits all interests. Different interests try and rationalize it from their PoV. It is what it is.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            03 GA beat 03 FCStars Ecnl blue.So much for the best around.
                            When did they play?

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                              The best landscape would be open competition to play in the strongest league and not because of club association. That would allow every team to earn its ability to compete and showcase itd talent. We have equally competitive teams in MA that are separated by leagues built on greed and self interest. US Soccer has failed youth club soccer.

                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Agree. We have the system that best suits all interests. Different interests try and rationalize it from their PoV. It is what it is.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I don’t think the poster was saying that league competition does not matter at all, but player can clearly develop with a good club, skilled coaching and intra team competition. For some players, these factors are more important than league competition. It would be good to have it all, but this is the battered landscape that greedy club owners have dealt us.
                                The intra-team competition is the key. If your kid practices against a dozen or so great teammates 3+ times a week, getting repetitive plays under pressure, it will be a much bigger part of their development than the once a week game against an unknown quality level opponent. Stars,scorpions,nefc all have this consistently on their top teams.

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