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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Not every player who paid $2k treats the coach or the team the same either. Commitment to the team and commitment to improvement is usually less in those bottom level players. "Private trainers" probably have someone they would train on their own, for free, if they were asked; those are the kind of players whose $2k is greater than the $2k the others pay.
    Sometimes true. More true that the top half of the A teams are treated like royalty (don't want them going somewhere else!) & treated like royalty whether they are "committed" or not. Generally, the B teams & bottom of A teams are there for the money & numbers. This is club sports. What did you expect? Unless you have a top player, demand more for your dollars or walk with your wallet. Especially if your player is u14 or under. Many younger non-stars become stars down the road, but this will never happen if your club/coach is only concerned with the current stars.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Spoken like a true overbearing parent who goes to every practice and stands there and scrutinizes everything. You also probably feel because you are paying for your kid's education, you have the right to go in weekly to "discuss" the curriculum and to scruitinze it. I've known a lot of teachers and there is a reason that all of the top teachers go to public schools. Not only is the pay better, but they don't have to deal with prima donna parents of private school kids who believe that they own the teachers and that the only kid that matters is their own.
      Teachers go to public schools for the union and benefits. The union protects them when the fall short of performing an average job. You never hear of tenure in other professions. Talk about prima donnas.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Teachers go to public schools for the union and benefits. The union protects them when the fall short of performing an average job. You never hear of tenure in other professions. Talk about prima donnas.
        Doesn't matter, the highest pay and best working conditions attract the best talent. Private schools pay less, and have to deal with parents like you. Which is why private schools attract inferior teachers. Lower pay and worse working conditions doesn't attract the top employees.

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          #34
          ?????

          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Doesn't matter, the highest pay and best working conditions attract the best talent. Private schools pay less, and have to deal with parents like you. Which is why private schools attract inferior teachers. Lower pay and worse working conditions doesn't attract the top employees.
          Private schools, not the neo-private charter schools, have the best teachers. They do teach for the money, they actually want to teach students. What a concept! Private schools typically have better educated parents which results in less conflict.

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            #35
            Mistake

            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Private schools, not the neo-private charter schools, have the best teachers. They do teach for the money, they actually want to teach students. What a concept! Private schools typically have better educated parents which results in less conflict.
            "They don't teach for the money," it should have said.

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              #36
              They are all out to get us.

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                #37
                Great coaches are like standout players. Some are very committed and passionate about helping players grow in their love and skills of the game. Others are there for the paycheck and are simply mediocre.

                Parents need to do their homework. Ask former parents of a particular coach's team and ask about coaching philosophy, temperant, treatment of players, and whether or not development occurred. Ask former or current CP if their child enjoyed this coach.

                Why anyone would spend so much money without researching is beyond me.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Private schools, not the neo-private charter schools, have the best teachers. They do teach for the money, they actually want to teach students. What a concept! Private schools typically have better educated parents which results in less conflict.
                  You keep telling yourself that. Nothing like a nice juicy rationalization.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Private schools, not the neo-private charter schools, have the best teachers. They do teach for the money, they actually want to teach students. What a concept! Private schools typically have better educated parents which results in less conflict.
                    WOW, I'm not sure if you are trying to whitewash it, or if you really believe it, but when my kids were in private school (K-8) it was the wealthy, entitled, educated parents who created the most issues. They wanted to watch over the teacher's back and tell them if they were doing it right or not, and they would judge who they thought were the good or bad teachers…

                    Yo are correct the Private schools attract teachers who love teaching, but frequently they lose them not because of pay and unions, but because of wanting benefits and retirement plans…both something typically not provided by private schools.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      You bring up some good points but you also prove that parents are out of control and should step away from the game .
                      As parents we should get into the habit of dropping out child off at practice and leaving the premises
                      Ok Coach!

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Great coaches are like standout players. Some are very committed and passionate about helping players grow in their love and skills of the game. Others are there for the paycheck and are simply mediocre.

                        Parents need to do their homework. Ask former parents of a particular coach's team and ask about coaching philosophy, temperant, treatment of players, and whether or not development occurred. Ask former or current CP if their child enjoyed this coach.

                        Why anyone would spend so much money without researching is beyond me.
                        Not everyone has the luxury of 10 clubs all with in a small area close to their home.

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                          #42
                          Were all dumb and the clubs, DOC's, BOD's all know it. were like sheep, following one another to slaughter.

                          The problem is none of us are willing to gather openly and stand up to them.

                          Ive got an older and before our time there have been some teams and parents that have stood up to the clubs and moved about for the better (better coaching and sort of stood alone within the club and made their own decisions).

                          This is before TS and the internet where everyone is a keyboard badazz talking like they know something and will do whats right.

                          Start with your team. Get your parents in a room together (no coach), with an agenda, budget in mind and hash it out. If your the instigator, dont get frustrated if it dont go all your way. Dont jump clubs if your team is competitive and you like the coach. At least you tried.

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