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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostActually the Trinity coach told the former NESCAC Freshman player of the year that she couldn't join a sorority. Then when she pushed back and the AD got involved (this is not a not a Trinity policy), the coaches made it clear that she would be cut if she came out for the team and did not give up the sorority - she moved on and Trinity is having a tough year this year. Not just the loss of one player, but the overall atmosphere.
Speaking of which, another thing to look at is attrition. How many kids quit before Jr or SR year.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostActually the Trinity coach told the former NESCAC Freshman player of the year that she couldn't join a sorority. Then when she pushed back and the AD got involved (this is not a not a Trinity policy), the coaches made it clear that she would be cut if she came out for the team and did not give up the sorority - she moved on and Trinity is having a tough year this year. Not just the loss of one player, but the overall atmosphere.
Speaking of which, another thing to look at is attrition. How many kids quit before Jr or SR year.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThat kid had it right didn't she? The coach is the one that seems to have things out of whack.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostActually the Trinity coach told the former NESCAC Freshman player of the year that she couldn't join a sorority. Then when she pushed back and the AD got involved (this is not a not a Trinity policy), the coaches made it clear that she would be cut if she came out for the team and did not give up the sorority - she moved on and Trinity is having a tough year this year. Not just the loss of one player, but the overall atmosphere.
Speaking of which, another thing to look at is attrition. How many kids quit before Jr or SR year.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYeah, I don't get it. What is so horrible about belonging to a Sorority?
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Not to derail from the women's conversation, but does anyone know how the new colby men's coach is doing with recruiting? He's done an impressive job organizing the inherited team.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAttrition is not exactly a barometer to how how the team/players view the coach, or how the coach recruits. Most times the issue isn't the coach, but the players team mates and most likely the players in the same graduating class. Really depends on the group, and how the personalities mesh. Can the few at the top, keep the rest motivated while riding the bench and not playing. One bad apple, or one who loves drama, will kill a class faster than a bad coach. I have found that to be more of a factor in attrition, than anything else. The other big one is coaches not getting to know the players well during the recruiting process, or doing the background check with coaches, guidance councelors, team mates, opposing coaches. If every year the combined Jr and Sr class is the same number, or less as the freshmen class, you most likely have an issue.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNot to derail from the women's conversation, but does anyone know how the new colby men's coach is doing with recruiting? He's done an impressive job organizing the inherited team.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you really want to analyze the soccer situation at a school, forget looking at the coach. Coaches have no real power over the players on a D3 level team. If you want to figure out the soccer situation first look at the rosters to figure who is going to be on the team and what level player they are. If the roster is weak then you can almost guarantee that the situation will be highly flexible and perhaps not to your daughter's liking. If the roster passes muster, then have your daughter spend some time with the women on the team during a couple of overnights to figure out if she likes them and fits with them. Women's teams are very cliquish and they will have way more of an impact on your daughter's soccer experience than the coach ever will. The leadership in that group will dictate how serious the team is or whether it is more of a social group. A D3 coach doesn't really have the power to legislate that, the captains and upper class are the ones who actually convince the team to stay focused on soccer. Figuring how your daughter might mesh with them is going to be far more productive than trying to figure out what the coach is like.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI would say that excessive attrition in any year is the real issue. If there is a revolving door does it really matter when it occurs.
Also, while the demands of D3 are less than D1 it is still quite demanding. It is a significant time and energy commitment so you better like the coach and your teammates. Ask to do an overnight with a potential teammate (or at a minimum have a meal with some of them), even attend a game or practice so you can observe the level of play. When my son was looking the schools all offered that.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI respectfully disagree with you. I think, and have seen first hand, how a coach can influence a Div 3 team in a positive way. The scenario you describe is real, and happens at a lot of D3/part time coach schools. I will not argue that, but I've seen strong D3 coaches motivate the Student/Athletes on and off the field, with constant team building, and a genuine interest in the players studies and soccer development. The good ones, at the D3 level find away to connect the student and athlete side in a way that benefits the individual and the team, and all while having complete control of the team. There are some really good coaches, who happen to believe in the D3 mission, and have found a way to keep/graduate players, and play good ball, all while respecting their team mates. It can be done, but you have to do some homework. The leadership at the top usually filters down, good and bad!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you really want to analyze the soccer situation at a school, forget looking at the coach. Coaches have no real power over the players on a D3 level team. If you want to figure out the soccer situation first look at the rosters to figure who is going to be on the team and what level player they are. If the roster is weak then you can almost guarantee that the situation will be highly flexible and perhaps not to your daughter's liking. If the roster passes muster, then have your daughter spend some time with the women on the team during a couple of overnights to figure out if she likes them and fits with them. Women's teams are very cliquish and they will have way more of an impact on your daughter's soccer experience than the coach ever will. The leadership in that group will dictate how serious the team is or whether it is more of a social group. A D3 coach doesn't really have the power to legislate that, the captains and upper class are the ones who actually convince the team to stay focused on soccer. Figuring how your daughter might mesh with them is going to be far more productive than trying to figure out what the coach is like.
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