Stars...everyone stays, but they don't win. Why?

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This is spot on! NEFC U15 has 4 or 5 truly elite players and the remainder are interchangeable. If NEFC could pick up the 4 or 5 top Stars ECNL and a couple of other top players (other clubs) they would certainly be able to compete with other top teams across the country. Unfortunately I don't see this happening. The bigger question is what are the other regions doing differently to maintain/create such strong national contenders? Is the New England region that much more diluted than other areas?

It's the same everywhere, fool.

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That is the biggest lie going. No one, repeat no one, else has really been able to bring in any more talent than the next club and that is precisely why all of this inter-club/inter-league squabbling makes absolutely no sense at all. All of the teams in this area, not just the Stars teams, are fundamentally flawed at one position or another due to a lack of talent and all of them lack depth. Take the much ballyhooed NEFC U15's, outside of the top 4-5 players on the team, most of the starters on that roster that would EASILY be replaced by starters from any of the other major club's top teams and their bench isn't even close to having enough talent to be able to play at a true national contending level. The reality is that team is successful because they have a couple of top flight prospects but most of their roster could easily be changed out. That will be their undoing because as teams age up the truly great teams across the country put much better rosters together and most of those players will not be able to compete head to head with them. The key point to this is that team is actually the best this entire region has to offer and if even they are flawed what does that say about the other teams and all the hype these clubs spew here? It's all nonsense.

So why then are you the ringleader in creating, stoking, and ensuring that the alleged squabbling continues? And why would you devote your life to such "nonsense"?

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This is spot on! NEFC U15 has 4 or 5 truly elite players and the remainder are interchangeable. If NEFC could pick up the 4 or 5 top Stars ECNL and a couple of other top players (other clubs) they would certainly be able to compete with other top teams across the country. Unfortunately I don't see this happening. The bigger question is what are the other regions doing differently to maintain/create such strong national contenders? Is the New England region that much more diluted than other areas?

NEFC 15's have more than that. They are a very solid team and they play as such. To win National USYS and NPL they had to beat some other top teams across country. Cut this nonsense just because the others are not doing as well.

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This is spot on! NEFC U15 has 4 or 5 truly elite players and the remainder are interchangeable. If NEFC could pick up the 4 or 5 top Stars ECNL and a couple of other top players (other clubs) they would certainly be able to compete with other top teams across the country. Unfortunately I don't see this happening. The bigger question is what are the other regions doing differently to maintain/create such strong national contenders? Is the New England region that much more diluted than other areas?

Yes it is. What most of the families around here don't realize is that in other parts of the country, the clubs generally are like monopolies that control geographic areas and don't have much if any competition for players. Imagine if BAYS was a single soccer club that controlled all of the soccer operations inside of RTE 128 just how different Mass soccer would be. Functionally that is what you have in most other parts. What is happening in Mass is our clubs are doing a pretty good job of identifying talent and for the most part training it, but where they are suffering is they aren't really able to piece the size talent pools together that some of the more successful soccer clubs have. To give you a sense of the issue consider that the Rush for example have somewhere near 40,000 players in their player pool to pick from where as NEFC, reportedly the second largest club in the state, has only 2,000.

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NEFC 15's have more than that. They are a very solid team and they play as such. To win National USYS and NPL they had to beat some other top teams across country. Cut this nonsense just because the others are not doing as well.

They are going to find the same things the Stars are running into. As the teams get older the level of play gets higher and it becomes much more difficult to "hide" players who can't actually match up. That significantly increases the need for high level talent at each position on the field and depth to support it. The only way that team continues to succeed to the level is has going forward is by bringing all of the best players in the state together on one team. In this environment that is not likely to happen.

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Yes it is. What most of the families around here don't realize is that in other parts of the country, the clubs generally are like monopolies that control geographic areas and don't have much if any competition for players. Imagine if BAYS was a single soccer club that controlled all of the soccer operations inside of RTE 128 just how different Mass soccer would be. Functionally that is what you have in most other parts. What is happening in Mass is our clubs are doing a pretty good job of identifying talent and for the most part training it, but where they are suffering is they aren't really able to piece the size talent pools together that some of the more successful soccer clubs have. To give you a sense of the issue consider that the Rush for example have somewhere near 40,000 players in their player pool to pick from where as NEFC, reportedly the second largest club in the state, has only 2,000.

Here we go with the Rush Lust again.

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Yes it is. What most of the families around here don't realize is that in other parts of the country, the clubs generally are like monopolies that control geographic areas and don't have much if any competition for players. Imagine if BAYS was a single soccer club that controlled all of the soccer operations inside of RTE 128 just how different Mass soccer would be. Functionally that is what you have in most other parts. What is happening in Mass is our clubs are doing a pretty good job of identifying talent and for the most part training it, but where they are suffering is they aren't really able to piece the size talent pools together that some of the more successful soccer clubs have. To give you a sense of the issue consider that the Rush for example have somewhere near 40,000 players in their player pool to pick from where as NEFC, reportedly the second largest club in the state, has only 2,000.

Thanks buddy.

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They are going to find the same things the Stars are running into. As the teams get older the level of play gets higher and it becomes much more difficult to "hide" players who can't actually match up. That significantly increases the need for high level talent at each position on the field and depth to support it. The only way that team continues to succeed to the level is has going forward is by bringing all of the best players in the state together on one team. In this environment that is not likely to happen.

Thanks buddy. You are so, so smart and on top of "the environment."

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This is spot on! NEFC U15 has 4 or 5 truly elite players and the remainder are interchangeable. If NEFC could pick up the 4 or 5 top Stars ECNL and a couple of other top players (other clubs) they would certainly be able to compete with other top teams across the country. Unfortunately I don't see this happening. The bigger question is what are the other regions doing differently to maintain/create such strong national contenders? Is the New England region that much more diluted than other areas?

You will quickly see that the parents of the role players on 15 Elite will not take kindly to the suggestion that their national championship winning Mias are in fact, interchangeable, and that the team could be further improved by adding top talent from Stars, Breakers, etc. True as that may be.

However, it's also true that there will be no significant consolidation of the type that could create a MA super-team. Far too much parochialism and bad blood between rival clubs to allow that to happen.

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Good Lord! Will someone explain how Massachusetts only a few years ago manage to have 3 national ranked teams if it is simply about putting all the best players onto one team? Was there something in the water back in 1992?

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You will quickly see that the parents of the role players on 15 Elite will not take kindly to the suggestion that their national championship winning Mias are in fact, interchangeable, and that the team could be further improved by adding top talent from Stars, Breakers, etc....

That's trivially true, of course--since by "interchangeable" you simply mean replaceable by comparable players from other top teams or replaceable by "top talent" from other top teams.

But the reality is those "role players" on the U15 NEFC Elite are on that excellent team, contributing, and probably will continue to do so unless they fall into, say, the bottom quarter of the roster.

You really are fraud and a disgrace with your empty, self-serving, always petty and vicious "wisdom," BTNT.

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sounds like a lot of jealously from the ECNL crowd...here's the secret, NEFC doesn't want you, they like where they are

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sounds like a lot of jealously from the ECNL crowd...here's the secret, NEFC doesn't want you, they like where they are

Drinking early, are you, BTNT? Or simply trying to divert attention from your belittling attack on the most highly regarded team at your own club--after you just got called out for that?

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You (whoever you are pretending to be now) are showing your true colors here. If that really was btdt and he really does have the insane obsession you claim, why would they be criticizing NEFC? You are just throwing hate out and your supposed noble mission simply is about nothing more than that.

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sounds like a lot of jealously from the ECNL crowd...here's the secret, NEFC doesn't want you, they like where they are

I have to believe the only people who posts from NEFC are the parents of the U15 team. They are going to do to NEFC what the Stars parents of certain teams did over the past few years. Make everybody hate NEFC like people hate Stars now. They are doing now exactly what they have accused Stars of doing. You sound ridiculous. Don't kid yourself, if a good player decides to go either way the other club will take them.