Weston GDA lied to us.... now what?

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Typical TS douche response - your kid sucks. Some of the adults in this situation actually care about doing the right thing and find the hypocrisy from coaches, clubs and USSF disturbing. Parents who think it's ok to break rules are doing their kids a huge disservice.

No less a "douche" then answer that was being responded to. When fools pull you into the mud, you tend to get dirty too.

As for breaking the rules, if USSF says they can play after the Showcase, then they are not breaking the rules. If there are no rules FL HS against players coming on at that point, then there is no rules being broken.

Players who played at the same time did break the rules. People complained and rightfully so.

No people insist that players coming back is against the rules. It is not. You not agreeing with it does not make it wrong.

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No less a "douche" then answer that was being responded to. When fools pull you into the mud, you tend to get dirty too.

As for breaking the rules, if USSF says they can play after the Showcase, then they are not breaking the rules. If there are no rules FL HS against players coming on at that point, then there is no rules being broken.

Players who played at the same time did break the rules. People complained and rightfully so.

No people insist that players coming back is against the rules. It is not. You not agreeing with it does not make it wrong.

We're talking about people who knowingly break the rules. Please try to keep up.

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We're talking about people who knowingly break the rules. Please try to keep up.

Your smart arse comments aside, most are still talking about players returning after the showcase and coming on the HS teams in Dec as breaking the rules. Keeping up just fine schmuck.

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Your smart arse comments aside, most are still talking about players returning after the showcase and coming on the HS teams in Dec as breaking the rules. Keeping up just fine schmuck.

You seem very confused. Joining the HS team after the showcase is very bad form, sends a terrible message, and is unfair, but does not technically break the rules. No doubt your precious snowflake falls in that category. Way to teach a life lesson, Dad.

Player who do GDA and HS or ODP at the same time are breaking the rules, should be reported to USSF, and should be removed from their academy team.

Is that clear enough for you?

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You seem very confused. Joining the HS team after the showcase is very bad form, sends a terrible message, and is unfair, but does not technically break the rules. No doubt your precious snowflake falls in that category. Way to teach a life lesson, Dad.

Player who do GDA and HS or ODP at the same time are breaking the rules, should be reported to USSF, and should be removed from their academy team.

Is that clear enough for you?

Weston will get fined and parents will never know. However i garenttee that the Weston contracts for next year will be explicit in no odp or HS period. Otherwise play in a different league. Very simple.

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You seem very confused. Joining the HS team after the showcase is very bad form, sends a terrible message, and is unfair, but does not technically break the rules. No doubt your precious snowflake falls in that category. Way to teach a life lesson, Dad.

Player who do GDA and HS or ODP at the same time are breaking the rules, should be reported to USSF, and should be removed from their academy team.

Is that clear enough for you?

There is a range of discipline regarding kids playing in outside competition and removal from the DA is the most extreme punishment. In all likelihood a multi-game suspension should suffice for first time offenders. Do it again and your off the team.

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Seriously, way to much time on this. What is the real harm in bending the rules here. We all go over the speed limit from time to time. This rule is more like guidance and in SRO like USSG GDA they are inclined to not investigate and hope for the best. USSF cannot win either way here so they will sit this issue out. Those who want to play will and those who don't wont. Pretty simple and no harm to anyone.

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Seriously, way to much time on this. What is the real harm in bending the rules here. We all go over the speed limit from time to time. This rule is more like guidance and in SRO like USSG GDA they are inclined to not investigate and hope for the best. USSF cannot win either way here so they will sit this issue out. Those who want to play will and those who don't wont. Pretty simple and no harm to anyone.

No, there is harm and the harm is that players should honor the rules otherwise why have them?

Does that mean that a kid should be kicked off a team? No, but the rule should be enforced and some level of suspension should be levied. Enough to send the message to the player, parent and coaches to think about the commitment a bit more seriously next time.

Considering it is the first year of GDA and there is likely some confusion and misconceptions about the rules and their applicability the punishments should be simple slaps on the wrist but delivered with clarification on the rules and what future consequences for violating them in the future.

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Seriously, way to much time on this. What is the real harm in bending the rules here. We all go over the speed limit from time to time. This rule is more like guidance and in SRO like USSG GDA they are inclined to not investigate and hope for the best. USSF cannot win either way here so they will sit this issue out. Those who want to play will and those who don't wont. Pretty simple and no harm to anyone.

No harm in telling kids it's ok to break the rules? Good parenting there Tex.

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No, there is harm and the harm is that players should honor the rules otherwise why have them?

Does that mean that a kid should be kicked off a team? No, but the rule should be enforced and some level of suspension should be levied. Enough to send the message to the player, parent and coaches to think about the commitment a bit more seriously next time.

Considering it is the first year of GDA and there is likely some confusion and misconceptions about the rules and their applicability the punishments should be simple slaps on the wrist but delivered with clarification on the rules and what future consequences for violating them in the future.

Clarification of the rules happened about 2 weeks ago... USSF had a conference call with ALL GDA clubs from the southeast region to go over it. Every club now know exactly the intent of the rules, and I would think most have also clarified that with their players and parents (ours did).

Here is one thing that nobody really talks about... The GDA program is in its first year, they took the boys DA rules and pretty much applied them to the girls. There is a significant difference in the end goals of most boys versus most girls doing DA/GDA... It is a possible path to pro for the boys and boys college soccer is not that big of a thing for most of them... For the girls, it is different, the end goal for most of them is playing in college... For that reason only, I wouldn't be surprised to see some rules still getting adjusted on the girls side, and specifically that "no HS soccer" one probably getting removed next year...

That being said, as of right now the rule is there and should be followed. My daughter is not playing HS right now and yes she will be joining her HS team after the showcase... (She is a senior and one of only 3 club players on her team, so no one is making a big deal out of it, other than the other parents would have liked to have her play all the games.

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. . . she will be joining her HS team after the showcase... (She is a senior and one of only 3 club players on her team, so no one is making a big deal out of it, other than the other parents would have liked to have her play all the games.

I would guess the players who tried out for the HS team, practiced with the HS team, got plenty of playing time on the HS team, who will now have to sit on the bench to make room for your little snowflake, might not be so happy about the choice you made. You may not hear about it, but you can bet they are making "a big deal of it" behind your back.

Someday those roles might reverse. Maybe a transfer athlete joins her college team and takes her spot. Maybe a former star comes back from injury. When that happens and your snowflake sits on the bench, will she accept that as part of life? Or will she come running and say Daddy it's not fair please fix it, like you did for her in high school?

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I would guess the players who tried out for the HS team, practiced with the HS team, got plenty of playing time on the HS team, who will now have to sit on the bench to make room for your little snowflake, might not be so happy about the choice you made. You may not hear about it, but you can bet they are making "a big deal of it" behind your back.

Someday those roles might reverse. Maybe a transfer athlete joins her college team and takes her spot. Maybe a former star comes back from injury. When that happens and your snowflake sits on the bench, will she accept that as part of life? Or will she come running and say Daddy it's not fair please fix it, like you did for her in high school?

Thank you. The poster's daughter also had the chance to play high school for the entire season as every DA senior was grandfathered into HS. But she chose DA over high school until after the showcase to try to play high school. I guess she needs to do the DA showcase because she is not yet committed to play in college. Daddy got his D back to high school in time for senior night while some other player did not make the high school varsity team.

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I would guess the players who tried out for the HS team, practiced with the HS team, got plenty of playing time on the HS team, who will now have to sit on the bench to make room for your little snowflake, might not be so happy about the choice you made. You may not hear about it, but you can bet they are making "a big deal of it" behind your back.

Since she is a senior, all returning players have been playing with her already on previous years... as far as the Freshmen go, they by definition get limited playing time regardless... and maybe you miss the part where she is 1 of 3 club players on the team... that team is not getting out of district, but they have fun together.

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What tells you she didn't already been on the other side... she is just fine with what life brings to her... don't worry for her.

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Since she is a senior, all returning players have been playing with her already on previous years... as far as the Freshmen go, they by definition get limited playing time regardless... and maybe you miss the part where she is 1 of 3 club players on the team... that team is not getting out of district, but they have fun together.

What tells you she didn't already been on the other side... she is just fine with what life brings to her... don't worry for her.

I'm not sure you're getting the point. After your D joined the HS team, somebody else lost playing time. It's great that she's having fun with the other seniors, but some well-deserving freshman who did all the right things to be part of that team is now sitting on the bench for every minute your D is on the field. I guarantee that freshman and her parents have some very strong opinions about you and your little snowflake.

I hope she turns out OK despite the lessons her father taught her.

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I'm not sure you're getting the point. After your D joined the HS team, somebody else lost playing time. It's great that she's having fun with the other seniors, but some well-deserving freshman who did all the right things to be part of that team is now sitting on the bench for every minute your D is on the field. I guarantee that freshman and her parents have some very strong opinions about you and your little snowflake.

I hope she turns out OK despite the lessons her father taught her.

It is the lessons daddy is teaching as well as the fooling the system. The GDA players have to play in 10 games to be eligible to play in the high school playoffs. Not sure how but some of the GDA players are on high school rosters and are attending the high school games and sitting in a high school jersey but not stepping foot on the field. The high school rule book says a player who is on the roster and who sits on the bench in her jersey for the entire game can count that as a high school game they participated in. GDA players are finding a million ways around the rules. Plus some of the GDA older players don't care. What is the worst that could happen- they get kicked out of DA, and that isn't happening because DA wouldn't have a senior team without them. So the GDA players are ruling the system at the clubs and the high schools.