ADF folding?

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It would make sense if the lost MJCC but what about Sylvania, Delta Park?

Anybody can rent available outdoor field space at a retail price tag. It's a precarious place to be not having fields or facilitates. That's all. That's why the OYSA typically requires clubs to have a verifiable field inventory. They don't.

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Your arguments are so all over the place. What is your point? I've lost track. You actally are saying some of the things the other people have said.

Are you wanting all other clubs to have access to THPRD fields or THPRD Rec Center fields?

I've seen postings that say that the fields are used by many different sports. Are you saying that WT and THUSC pay for everything as in-district and all other sports are out of district?

Are you saying that rec clubs are forced to work with WT and THUSC if they want field time anywhere?

So what if WT, THUSC, and Aloha SC are listed as affiliates for THPRD? Someone can live within an unincorporated street within Beaverton/Aloha/Portland and be considered out-of-district for fees to play or they can choose to play on a PYSA affiliate such as ADF.

Just not getting your drift.

You could read the minutes to learn that the district determined that rec sports programs take precedent over competitive programs and funds are the key reason for limiting number of competitive clubs. Volunteer work versus district employment numbers were important. Bond measures could help expand purchases of land to convert to sports use and allow more clubs in. This is reviewed every few years.

It should be noted that:

Aloha is unincorporated (not part of any city), though half of it (generally stuff east of 185th) are within THPRD boundaries. Generally those parts also lie within Beaverton School District boundaries--if you go to Century HS (in the Hillsboro school district) or to a feeder elementary or middle school, you're probably not in THPRD.

Likewise, communities such as Cedar Hills, Cedar Mills, and Bethany are not part of any city (and don't want to be), but are within THPRD and BSD.

If you play for a club that uses THPRD facilities and don't live in the THPRD district, you pay a surcharge. Rec or classic, doesn't matter.

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It should be noted that:

Aloha is unincorporated (not part of any city), though half of it (generally stuff east of 185th) are within THPRD boundaries. Generally those parts also lie within Beaverton School District boundaries--if you go to Century HS (in the Hillsboro school district) or to a feeder elementary or middle school, you're probably not in THPRD.

Likewise, communities such as Cedar Hills, Cedar Mills, and Bethany are not part of any city (and don't want to be), but are within THPRD and BSD.

If you play for a club that uses THPRD facilities and don't live in the THPRD district, you pay a surcharge. Rec or classic, doesn't matter.

Actually, not quite so. We live within THPRD district as in-district, inside of 170th and Farmington, deemed Aloha but I write Beaverton as our address. Our friends live across the street from one another across from Aloha HS. One is in-district, the other out of district.

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It should be noted that:

Aloha is unincorporated (not part of any city), though half of it (generally stuff east of 185th) are within THPRD boundaries. Generally those parts also lie within Beaverton School District boundaries--if you go to Century HS (in the Hillsboro school district) or to a feeder elementary or middle school, you're probably not in THPRD.

Likewise, communities such as Cedar Hills, Cedar Mills, and Bethany are not part of any city (and don't want to be), but are within THPRD and BSD.

If you play for a club that uses THPRD facilities and don't live in the THPRD district, you pay a surcharge. Rec or classic, doesn't matter.

How much is the surcharge per year?

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Actually, not quite so. We live within THPRD district as in-district, inside of 170th and Farmington, deemed Aloha but I write Beaverton as our address. Our friends live across the street from one another across from Aloha HS. One is in-district, the other out of district.

Here is a detailed map of the THPRD boundaries: http://cdn1.thprd.org/pdfs/document133.pdf

As you can see, the boundary line is just west of Aloha HS. 185th was given as an approximation.

And those who are in-district fund THPRD with tax dollars, hence the surcharge for those out of district.

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You need to spend some time researching this topic and it's history, outside of this forum. Maybe then you can better process the reality of why the affiliates are tier #1 in terms of usage and the type of criteria they met to gain this distinction, inventory of fields + the fee discount. If you're not armed with this documented public knowledge of how the process works it would seem confusing and hard to decipher. All the best.

I know the process extremely well and that is why I said your comments are all over the place. You keep talking about classic clubs who are 'affiliates' with THPRD, not THJSL-affiliated rec clubs.

You need clarification of why THPRD determined what was appropriate for use and didn't want to read the minutes, that's your issue. Here are items from their meetings:
Priorities in orders: #1 accommodate the rec clubs; #2 make use of the classic clubs' volunteer base talent, time, and funds to aid budget-constrained district; #3 revisit and re-evaluate these considerations as bond measures allow; #4 also revisit and re-evaluate as leases are set to expire.

You're talking apples and oranges here. BTW, a better example for your rec-to-classic transition would be LO.
http://www.losc.org/

In the meantime, some ADF players live in the THPRD district. Maybe their club can get on the waitlist.

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I know the process extremely well and that is why I said your comments are all over the place. You keep talking about classic clubs who are 'affiliates' with THPRD, not THJSL-affiliated rec clubs.

You need clarification of why THPRD determined what was appropriate for use and didn't want to read the minutes, that's your issue. Here are items from their meetings:
Priorities in orders: #1 accommodate the rec clubs; #2 make use of the classic clubs' volunteer base talent, time, and funds to aid budget-constrained district; #3 revisit and re-evaluate these considerations as bond measures allow; #4 also revisit and re-evaluate as leases are set to expire.

You're talking apples and oranges here. BTW, a better example for your rec-to-classic transition would be LO.
http://www.losc.org/

In the meantime, some ADF players live in the THPRD district. Maybe their club can get on the waitlist.

Sorry minutes from any type of meeting are stream of consciousness jabber around a table that typically amounts to nothing. So here is the policy to give you some actual knowledge:

7.16 Affiliate Policy
(A) Purpose: In an effort to work with community groups requesting to use District
owned and/or operated facilities and to ensure that an emphasis is placed on
facilitating responsible in-district constituent use of those facilities, the District
has established four classifications for specific users. This four-tiered system
primarily determines the fee structure for use of District facilities but it is also a
critical component in determining priority for use of the facilities and the
associated level of support services provided by the District to the organization.
(B) Classifications: All entities or individuals seeking to use District owned and/or
operated facilities shall be categorized and classified based on the established
criteria set forth below for each classification level. The purpose of this
classification system and the resulting criteria is to ensure that the publicly funded
facilities are being used for the benefit of District residents and not for personal or
corporate gain.
(1) Affiliates: Provide a service that the District would provide if they did not
exist. Must be nonprofit, community based, focused on serving in-district
needs and constituents, and meet the Affiliate Criteria listed in Section
7.16 (D) below.
(2) Partners/Associates: Provide a service of community benefit. The District
would not provide the activity or benefit if they did not exist. Must be
nonprofit and community based, focused on serving in-district needs and
constituents. Affiliates operate and exist as a result of Partners/Associates
support, licensing or sanctioning.
(3) Renter: Exclusive use of space. Must be for nonprofit use or proceeds
must be donated to a charitable foundation/organization. For profit
enterprises are not eligible.
(4) Commercial: Exclusive use of space. The District reserves the right to
refuse use for profit enterprise by a business or individual.
(C) Affiliate Policy: Organizations classified as Affiliates by the District have priority
use of District facilities and property. To be classified as an Affiliate, an
organization must demonstrate that:
(1) It supports District goals and objectives related to providing
services/programs and facilities for in-district residents.
DISTRICT COMPILED POLICIES
Chapter 7 – District Regulations 9
Adopted: June 8, 2009
Amended: December 9, 2013
Effective: February 1, 2014
(2) It is a nonprofit and evidences good governance and enhanced corporate
responsibility standards through its adopted by-laws, rules and regulations;
and
(3) The organization can meet and adhere to the District Affiliation
requirements as outlined in the THPRD Operational Policy and
Procedures and as set forth below in Section 7.16 (D).
(D) Affiliate Criteria: Recognized Affiliates must provide evidence they meet the
following criteria by January 1 of each year. An organization that does not meet
the following criteria and/or does not provide supporting documentation, might
not be recognized as an affiliate impacting its ability to use District facilities on a
priority basis.
(1) Responsible governance and corporate responsibility policies are
implemented.
(2) Compliance with state and federal laws and regulations including but not
limited to those directed at nonprofit, charitable organizations.
(3) Provide services to the maximum number of in-district participants with
an aim toward 100% in-district participation in recreational clubs and 80%
in-district participation for competitive clubs.*
(4) Facilitate unique services that the District or an existing affiliated club or
organization does not already provide.
(5) The program/sport/activity sponsored by the organization must be one that
the District has sufficient facilities and staff to support or the District must
have the ability to reasonably gain access to the necessary facilities and
support.
(6) The budgetary impact to the District from the organization’s participation
as an affiliate must align with the District’s facility and operational
support funds.
* In-district status for rostering purposes will include residents of both the
District and Beaverton School District service areas. Non-district residents
will continue to pay an out -of-district assessment.
(E) Implementation Strategy: In addition to the criteria listed in Section 7.16 (D)
above, any organization/group wishing to be affiliated with the District must
submit the required documentation for review in accordance with the THPRD
Operational Policy and Procedures adopted by the Manager.

BTW LOSC is a Recreational & Classic club housed in one body with a 3rd leg of classic only soccer called Crossfire Oregon for boys and girls then layered into that confusion is a 4th leg called Crossfire United which is a partnership with THUSC which gives them affiliate access to THPRD (funny how all roads lead back to the rec center) which truly does illustrate your point of comparing apples to oranges as the Tualatin Hills Soccer District has an either or composition: either stand alone classic club or stand alone rec club.

At least you tried to have a rebuttal without knowing much of the landscape.

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BTW LOSC is a Recreational & Classic club housed in one body with a 3rd leg of classic only soccer called Crossfire Oregon for boys and girls then layered into that confusion is a 4th leg called Crossfire United which is a partnership with THUSC which gives them affiliate access to THPRD (funny how all roads lead back to the rec center) which truly does illustrate your point of comparing apples to oranges as the Tualatin Hills Soccer District has an either or composition: either stand alone classic club or stand alone rec club.

At least you tried to have a rebuttal without knowing much of the landscape.

Tualatin Hills Soccer District? Wazzat?

And you were doing so well.

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In the meantime, some ADF players live in the THPRD district. Maybe their club can get on the waitlist.

Not sure they are a registered non-profit with the State of Oregon or IRS but have applied and have provisional acceptance until it's accepted or denied.

They would first need to become a non-profit club then become a member of the OYSA Tualatin Hills Soccer District, which there is no wait list for and no openings for any clubs given the THPRD restrictive policies and closed door to any new soccer clubs.

They would be better off praying for a miracle.

or have the transient club hopping players join a rec or classic club in the Tualatin Hills Soccer District and bingo they have immediate field privileges no wait list or praying, just playing by the rules.

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OYSA-Tualatin Hills (Soccer) District? Wazzat?

And you were doing so well.

Straight from the OYSA Annual Minutes.
http://oysa.bonzidev.com/doclib/AGM%...ort%202017.pdf

Registration Services Report
-Desia Bramel

pg 21 of 33

Wazzat you say, please try and keep up or quit while you're a few lengths behind.

TUALATIN HILLS DISTRICT (OYSA)
Aloha YSC (rec)
Aloha Comp
Milltown SC (rec)
Oakhills SC (rec)
Somerset West SC (rec)
West Hills Jr SC (rec)
Westside SC (rec)
Westside Timbers (Classic)
THUSC (Classic)

This is already outlined in the thread for God's Sake.

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me lost . . . *** are you guys talking about at this point?

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me lost . . . *** are you guys talking about at this point?

how ADF is folding because they don't share some fields in Beaverton with 400 other teams i think

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how ADF is folding because they don't share some fields in Beaverton with 400 other teams i think

ADF is folding due to no benefactor to scholarship streer ballas..and carnival trainers.

+ they have no fields.

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me lost . . . *** are you guys talking about at this point?

To keep it relevant to the subject of this thread: It is being claimed that ADF, not being a recognized affiliate of the Tualatin Hills Park and Rec district, has little shot of getting access to the turf fields at THPRD--both because they are in short supply (and boy howdy, they are--THUSC and WT frequently are sharing the fields as it is), and little chance of gaining affiliate status, because there are sufficient classic clubs in the district boundaries (including other non-affiliated clubs with a far stronger history than ADF) to meet the competitive soccer needs of District residents.

Whether this is a reason that ADF is in danger (they currently have access to adequate facilities, but no long-term lease or other arrangement that ensures continued access) or not, I don't now. Whether this is "fair", or THPRD ought to be obligated to rent field space on equal terms to any guy with a whistle and a tracksuit who wants to start a club, I don't much care. A few years ago, AUSC's DoC went whining to the media that WT was in actively cahoots with THPRD to suppress competing clubs--a claim that AFAICT was and is mostly horse poop.

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if i started a club, the first thing i'd do is run full speed towards the thprd ****show. adf is clearly doomed