'The problem with referees is they know the rules, but not the game.'
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post'The problem with referees is they know the rules, but not the game.'
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the biggest problem is 1 ref on the field. unless it happens right in front of him their point of view might not let them see what actually happened.
suck it up. not going to change any time soon. we all saw the mess they made out of the world cup. do you really expect better on a field of kids? they get paid crap. they get yelled at by players/parents/coaches. and you expect what out of a thankless job that pays less than minimum wage? the best of the best?
what the ref says goes, right or wrong. sometimes you get lucky, some times you dont. it is part of the game.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe bigger problem though is that some don't know the rules or how to apply them. Off-sides, playing the advantage, and even simple throw-ins are problems for some. The vast majority of refs are good, but there are some who don't know enough to be reffing games. Then you have some who intentionally make bad calls in order to help the home team, but that's a whole other story.
good example, hand ball, someone screams it against the other team. they stop playing but you make the run and shoot. he can AND SHOULD call the ball back reguardless of advange. not a rule, just a tool he is allowed to use to keep the game flowing.
most of them know what they are doing. it is usually the parents and alot of times coaches who do not know what the rules are. there are bad refs. there are infantly more parents and coaches who know just enough to scream BAD REF without fully understanding the rules and how to apply them/
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Tampa Bay Chargers
sites in Clearwater, Countryside, Lakewood Ranch, West Tampa (Ed Radice), South Tampa and several sites in New Tampa.
That leaves
WFP - fight for north county players and those that do not want a big club.
Strictly - fight for mid to south county players that want a real club feel (they do tend to send all of their teams to the same events)
Brandon - East Hillsborough
Revolution - South Hillsborough
Everton, Largo, Tarpon and Azalea - Pinellas boutique clubs
Everton Pasco, Central Pasco and Wesley Chapel - Do they still have many teams in Pasco
FC Tampa, Plant City, Florida Spirit and Valrico - Hillsborough boutique clubs
It stills creates a place for every level of player but clearly establishes a regional presence that could compete with the best of the State and hopefully Region III.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post'The problem with referees is they know the rules, but not the game.'
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"Survey says...
over 90% of those who complain about refs never took a ref certification course and never reffed. Less than 5% of the ref complainers could pass the ref certification test."
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTampa Bay Chargers
sites in Clearwater, Countryside, Lakewood Ranch, West Tampa (Ed Radice), South Tampa and several sites in New Tampa.
That leaves
WFP - fight for north county players and those that do not want a big club.
Strictly - fight for mid to south county players that want a real club feel (they do tend to send all of their teams to the same events)
Brandon - East Hillsborough
Revolution - South Hillsborough
Everton, Largo, Tarpon and Azalea - Pinellas boutique clubs
Everton Pasco, Central Pasco and Wesley Chapel - Do they still have many teams in Pasco
FC Tampa, Plant City, Florida Spirit and Valrico - Hillsborough boutique clubs
It stills creates a place for every level of player but clearly establishes a regional presence that could compete with the best of the State and hopefully Region III.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post"Survey says...
over 90% of those who complain about refs never took a ref certification course and never reffed. Less than 5% of the ref complainers could pass the ref certification test."
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWell since you said that, did you know that 90% of referees never played soccer past U11? They were getting tired of being laughed at as a player and decided to become referees. Oh yea, less than 5% actually played in high school.
Playing the sport is not a prerequisite to officiating the sport.
Here's your choices:
1. play soccer without refs - see how that works for you.
2. take the ref certification course, pass the test and contact a ref assignor - then be the best ref you can be. Rather than criticize, make a positive contribution.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostProbably not too different from baseball umpires, basketball refs and football officials. So what?
Playing the sport is not a prerequisite to officiating the sport.
Here's your choices:
1. play soccer without refs - see how that works for you.
2. take the ref certification course, pass the test and contact a ref assignor - then be the best ref you can be. Rather than criticize, make a positive contribution.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostProbably not too different from baseball umpires, basketball refs and football officials. So what?
Playing the sport is not a prerequisite to officiating the sport.
Here's your choices:
1. play soccer without refs - see how that works for you.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWell since you said that, did you know that 90% of referees never played soccer past U11? They were getting tired of being laughed at as a player and decided to become referees. Oh yea, less than 5% actually played in high school.
There's already a critical shortage of certified youth soccer refs. This shortage is due, in part, to beginner and/or younger refs who abandon officiating because the wage doesn't make it worth it to put up with harrassing and obnoxious soccer-stupid SoccerDads and SoccerMoms who never got past page 1 of The Laws of the Game.
Based on your (idiotic and pointless) comment that "5% actually played in high school", here's one possible solution: require all youth soccer refs to have played soccer at least through high school. Along with this requirement, increase ref fees to attract and retain such refs who meet this new requirement.
Here's what would happen: 1. The current ref pool will drastically dwindle. The availability of refs for the demand of league matches, high school play and tournaments will be impossible to fulfill. 2. Soccer-stupid SoccerDads and SoccerMoms will scream bloody murder over increases in their club/team fees due to higher ref fees.
Want better quality officiating in youth soccer? Here's a simple start: treat ALL refs with respect. Soccer-stupid SoccerDads and SoccerMoms should read and comply with the Code of Conduct/Ethics if they're not going to take the time to at least familiarize themselves with The Laws of the Game.
Then maybe the newer and younger refs will stick around long enough to get the experience needed to be good quality refs.
If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem.
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Whaaaaaaat?
It's so funny to read these types of comments.....specially from people that can't even spell soccer correctly. 90% from where? From your block or your school. I understand that there are Officials out there that can't run and just do it for the money, but there are also Officials out there that love the game and do a hell of a job out there; I know I do!
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWell since you said that, did you know that 90% of referees never played soccer past U11? They were getting tired of being laughed at as a player and decided to become referees. Oh yea, less than 5% actually played in high school.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo, instead of "throwing rocks", what's your substantive suggestions for improvement?
There's already a critical shortage of certified youth soccer refs. This shortage is due, in part, to beginner and/or younger refs who abandon officiating because the wage doesn't make it worth it to put up with harrassing and obnoxious soccer-stupid SoccerDads and SoccerMoms who never got past page 1 of The Laws of the Game.
Based on your (idiotic and pointless) comment that "5% actually played in high school", here's one possible solution: require all youth soccer refs to have played soccer at least through high school. Along with this requirement, increase ref fees to attract and retain such refs who meet this new requirement.
Here's what would happen: 1. The current ref pool will drastically dwindle. The availability of refs for the demand of league matches, high school play and tournaments will be impossible to fulfill. 2. Soccer-stupid SoccerDads and SoccerMoms will scream bloody murder over increases in their club/team fees due to higher ref fees.
Want better quality officiating in youth soccer? Here's a simple start: treat ALL refs with respect. Soccer-stupid SoccerDads and SoccerMoms should read and comply with the Code of Conduct/Ethics if they're not going to take the time to at least familiarize themselves with The Laws of the Game.
Then maybe the newer and younger refs will stick around long enough to get the experience needed to be good quality refs.
If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem.
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